EPTone might draw the obvious conclusion, others may choose not to. its worse when trump does it is a statement of fact stemming from his position and ambitions.
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one might draw the obvious conclusion, others may choose not to. its worse when trump does it is a statement of fact stemming from his position and ambitions. 1/15 | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:00 brian wrote: i’m not, i’m beating around the bush at calling you out for your indignation while you’re planning to vote for someone who has. like no need to pretend it’s past the pale. save some pearls for the rest of us to clutch. Whoops, bad assumption. I’ve never voted for a Republican for President in my life and don’t plan to start now. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:08 brian wrote: oh, I appreciate you sharing, and my mistake, and sorry. No worries. I'm merely trying to point out the double standard here. People on the left are quick to point out that a straight line can be drawn to violence from right-wing rhetoric. Say wrongthink about COVID and you're responsible for hate crimes on Asian people. Deny that a man can get pregnant and you're encouraging violence against trans people etc. It's their favorite argument. As soon as the shoe is on the other foot and someone blatantly longs for a 2nd amendment solution to this pesky Trump and judge problem it's "oh he's not promoting any violence." We need a little consistency here. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:24 KwarK wrote: I’m still smiling over the take that the main difference between Trump and I, the one that makes it unforgivable for Trump to do things that are simply bad when I do them, is that I’m a moderator on teamliquid. That’s the key here. If Trump was also a tl mod it’d be fine. If I wasn’t a tl mod but was in all other ways the same then it’d be unforgivable. But fortunately I am a tl mod and that’s why I get a pass while people crucify Trump for it. I don't even know what point you're trying to make about being a TL mod. The reason you've given a pass is not because you're a TL mod. It's because you're posting in an echo chamber where shouting down the few conservatives is more important than condemning violence. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:36 BlackJack wrote: I don't even know what point you're trying to make about being a TL mod. The reason you've given a pass is not because you're a TL mod. It's because you're posting in an echo chamber where shouting down the few conservatives is more important than condemning violence. Got it. I get a pass because I’m a tl poster. If I wasn’t a tl poster I wouldn’t get a pass for the things I post on tl. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:41 KwarK wrote: Got it. I get a pass because I’m a tl poster. If I wasn’t a tl poster I wouldn’t get a pass for the things I post on tl. Close. You're getting there. You get a pass because you're a left-leaning TL poster where the vast majority of other posters are left leaning. Introvert thought RBG should have recused herself from a Trump case after saying some unsavory things about Trump. He wouldn't get a pass if he offered a 2nd amendment solution after she didn't. Hence the double standard. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:50 BlackJack wrote: Close. You're getting there. You get a pass because you're a left-leaning TL poster where the vast majority of other posters are left leaning. Introvert thought RBG should have recused herself from a Trump case after saying some unsavory things about Trump. He wouldn't get a pass if he offered a 2nd amendment solution after she didn't. Hence the double standard. I disagree. I think the difference in power and platform between Trump and i is probably the key. Suppose that Trump made a tl account and used a tl blog ad his main form of communication with his millions of rabid cultists. And suppose that he started blogging hard left positions like eating the rich and killing cops. It still wouldn’t be okay because when Trump is reckless with his power people storm the capitol whereas when I’m reckless with my power nothing happens. The amount of power is the difference. | ||
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On July 17 2024 06:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Polling over the last 3 days (since Trump's assassination attempt) hasn't seemed to show a sizable sympathy swing of support in favor of Trump. This is the second time Biden has recently lucked out in the polling, where he's stayed basically tied (within the margin of error), or very slightly behind Trump, regardless of his debate performance and regardless of Trump's assassination attempt. Polls: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/president/general-election More Polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ This is probably a relief to the Biden campaign, since things could be worse, but they need to find ways to gain ground, not just not lose more ground. Doesn't surprise me at all. He would have gotten a bump if he was a Romney or McCain Republican that this country is more torn on, but Trump is so massively polarizing that people have already made up their mind either way. | ||
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On July 17 2024 07:59 BlackJack wrote: I mean if you want to retreat behind "I'm just a lowly forum user of no importance so I shouldn't be held responsible for the shitty things I say" then I'm happy to leave it at that. It’s not a retreat, it’s a statement of objective fact. It would be extremely reckless for Trump to say some of the things that I’ve said. It is not reckless for me to say them. Feel free to hold me responsible for the damage my words do, I’m not afraid because they’re not going to do any damage. It’s not that I’m not being held accountable for the harm my words do, it’s that there is no harm. I accept equal blame for the deaths of people in mobs I incite as Trump, but unlike Trump nobody has ever died in one of my mobs. I don’t know why you’re picking this hill to die on. It is objectively true that I have less power than Trump. If I show up to work angry and confrontational then nothing bad happens, if Trump does the same then bad things happen. It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact, even if you don’t like it. Facts famously don’t care about your feelings. | ||
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