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On June 17 2018 02:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
How do you know they don't vote? Perhaps it's the politically active ones on social media who are the voters.
The politically active ones are the ones that have the "real soft power" in this nation, yes. Generally that tends to be celebrities & business luminaries & diplomats, at least around here. They tend to be non-ideological in nature and mostly just react to things that happen in the news either positively or negatively.
People, even folks in the GOP, tend to be in two camps: either they hatefully attack the prez constantly about stuff that doesn't matter that much, or they are a little too deferential to the president. These folks should use their positions to promote their agenda & meet the needs of their constituents. Remember, Trump was not a "hardcore conservative" even ten years ago, & I think that he only ran as a member of the GOP so that he could get elected. There are a lot of people who are upset about these tariffs so representatives & legislators need to get in touch with their congressmen & make them criticize the prez more often for not doing his job well enough. OUCH!
https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/will-the-gop-push-back-against-trumps-trade-war
I guess I get that the purpose of the tariffs is to cut costs & get rid of the vendor that is the least profitable to the US, but we must think of the nation as a COUNTRY, not a COMPANY. That is not an effective way of governance that works & makes sense. I guess the whole "try to degrade the president" thing doesn't make a ton of sense to me - must be an American thing I suppose because people in the EU tend to be more interactive in their politics: they try to cut deals, make plans, use critical thinking, etc. People in America just straight up insult the president harshly. Now they are being hurt with tariffs that are cutting their profits. What a surprise but it sort of seems like it's their own fault a little bit. The tariffs favor successful domestic industries & are endorsed by "home companies" that have a lot of political lobbying influence (but not too much).
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On June 17 2018 03:18 A3th3r wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 02:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
How do you know they don't vote? Perhaps it's the politically active ones on social media who are the voters. The politically active ones are the ones that have the "real soft power" in this nation, yes. Generally that tends to be celebrities & business luminaries & diplomats, at least around here. They tend to be non-ideological in nature and mostly just react to things that happen in the news either positively or negatively. People, even folks in the GOP, tend to be a little too deferential to the president. They should use their positions to promote their agenda & meet the needs of their constituents. Remember, Trump was not a "hardcore conservative" even ten years ago, & I think that he only ran as a member of the GOP so that he could get elected. There are a lot of people who are upset about these tariffs so representatives & legislators need to get in touch with their congressmen & make them criticize the prez more often for not doing his job well enough. OUCH! https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/will-the-gop-push-back-against-trumps-trade-warI guess I get that the purpose of the tariffs is to cut costs & get rid of the vendor that is the least profitable to the US, but we must think of the nation as a COUNTRY, not a COMPANY. That is not an effective way of governance that works & makes sense
He knows who elected him, and that’s basically it. He throws bones to pro-life. He is more sympathetic to Israel than Palestine. He’s cut regs.
The rest is just Trump gut instinct and who talked to him last.
The big problem for elected Republicans is that Trump is all about loyalty. You can’t be tough on Trump and keep in his good graces (generally speaking). Look at what happened to Stanford when he tried a ‘tough love’ approach. Everybody wants to avoid notice or support something Trump’s already in favor of or leaning toward. Trump’s favorability is way higher than any other Republican as well.
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On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 14:13 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:45 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 05:39 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:14 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 04:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 15 2018 12:29 Plansix wrote:
Jeff Sessions continues to remind us all why the wife of MLK wrote a letter to congress explaining why Sessions shouldn’t be a judge. Using the Bible to justify separating families and building a tent village to house the children.
Again, we are building prison camps for children.
Oh good, does this mean we can finally declare that anyone who uses the statue of liberty as an argument for immigration is an idiot? I hear that a lot. Can we *handshake* on both of these things being stupid? Regarding separating children at the border, can you fill me in on the problem? Are you wanting them to be put in the same prison / cell / detainment facility as their parents? What explanation has there been for why we wouldn't do that? Are you unhappy about the quality of the accommodations? I'm not really sure what exactly your complaint is. The children should remain with their parents, rather than in another state in a separate facility. Is this a real question? There were a bunch of real questions. You didn't answer any of them. I also don't think it is policy that children of illegals need to be brought to another state, nor have I suggested that. I also bet that in whatever few examples you have of this happening, the other state the child is taken to happens to be adjacent to the state their parent is in. I'll bet you don't know of a case where the parents were locked up in Arizona and the kid was sent to a facility in Ohio. Are you able to answer those questions I asked? I would add the question 'Was this also happening under Obama?' Under Obama, no. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/1-995-children-separated-families-border-under-zero-tolerance-policy-n883716"Separating parents from children was rare under the Obama administration and in the early part of the Trump administration..." "...usually reserved only for cases where the safety of a child was in question." Why did you cut out the rest of that paragraph?
Because it provides the same answer to the same question.
The question was "Was this separating of families of illegal aliens happening under Obama?" Plansix told me no. The line I quoted says that it was happening under Obama. The line YOU quoted says it was happening under Obama. There have also recently been fake stories and viral tweets (by CNN contributor(s)) of pictures of children locked in cells that we quickly found out were from 2014, so for someone to tell me that this never happened under Obama is quite the bold claim.
I'm open to hearing additional context and reasoning behind these policies, but I get annoyed by deceit and deflection.
On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:
From the article you linked:
"The "zero-tolerance" policy he announced last month sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry."
"Mr Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence."
"Fact-checkers say that the only thing that has changed is the Justice Department's decision to criminally prosecute parents for a first-time border crossing offense. Because their children are not charged with a crime, they are not permitted to be jailed together."
I have no idea what your point is by quoting this to me. What point are you trying to make here?
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On June 17 2018 03:57 PeTraSoHot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On June 16 2018 14:13 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:45 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 05:39 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:14 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 04:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:Oh good, does this mean we can finally declare that anyone who uses the statue of liberty as an argument for immigration is an idiot? I hear that a lot. Can we *handshake* on both of these things being stupid? Regarding separating children at the border, can you fill me in on the problem? Are you wanting them to be put in the same prison / cell / detainment facility as their parents? What explanation has there been for why we wouldn't do that? Are you unhappy about the quality of the accommodations? I'm not really sure what exactly your complaint is. The children should remain with their parents, rather than in another state in a separate facility. Is this a real question? There were a bunch of real questions. You didn't answer any of them. I also don't think it is policy that children of illegals need to be brought to another state, nor have I suggested that. I also bet that in whatever few examples you have of this happening, the other state the child is taken to happens to be adjacent to the state their parent is in. I'll bet you don't know of a case where the parents were locked up in Arizona and the kid was sent to a facility in Ohio. Are you able to answer those questions I asked? I would add the question 'Was this also happening under Obama?' Under Obama, no. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/1-995-children-separated-families-border-under-zero-tolerance-policy-n883716"Separating parents from children was rare under the Obama administration and in the early part of the Trump administration..." "...usually reserved only for cases where the safety of a child was in question." Why did you cut out the rest of that paragraph? Because it provides the same answer to the same question. The question was "Was this separating of families of illegal aliens happening under Obama?" Plansix told me no. The line I quoted says that it was happening under Obama. The line YOU quoted says it was happening under Obama. There have also recently been fake stories and viral tweets (by CNN contributor(s)) of pictures of children locked in cells that we quickly found out were from 2014, so for someone to tell me that this never happened under Obama is quite the bold claim. I'm open to hearing additional context and reasoning behind these policies, but I get annoyed by deceit and deflection.
Because it didn't happen under Obama? I don't know what "this" you're referring to, but if you're attempting to do some all encompassing absolute that "tell me children were never ever separated from parents under Obama", okay, take your internet kudos or something.
There are legitimate and justifiable reasons to separate children from parents. Medical reasons, child abuse, etc. And that's not even discussing border crossers or immigrants. I would've hoped that such points could be skipped over as standard fact.
Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:
From the article you linked:
"The "zero-tolerance" policy he announced last month sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry."
"Mr Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence."
"Fact-checkers say that the only thing that has changed is the Justice Department's decision to criminally prosecute parents for a first-time border crossing offense. Because their children are not charged with a crime, they are not permitted to be jailed together." I have no idea what your point is by quoting this to me. What point are you trying to make here?
You said "their story sounds different" to P6's post.
The article says many are planning to seek asylum. Actually, about a third of the article is about asylum seekers.
I also wasn't sure what else you were claiming was different in the story, so I corroborated that this due to policy changes made by Sessions.
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i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold.
In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled...
"i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465
Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right...
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On June 17 2018 05:49 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 03:57 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On June 16 2018 14:13 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:45 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 05:39 PeTraSoHot wrote:On June 16 2018 05:14 Plansix wrote:On June 16 2018 04:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:Oh good, does this mean we can finally declare that anyone who uses the statue of liberty as an argument for immigration is an idiot? I hear that a lot. Can we *handshake* on both of these things being stupid? Regarding separating children at the border, can you fill me in on the problem? Are you wanting them to be put in the same prison / cell / detainment facility as their parents? What explanation has there been for why we wouldn't do that? Are you unhappy about the quality of the accommodations? I'm not really sure what exactly your complaint is. The children should remain with their parents, rather than in another state in a separate facility. Is this a real question? There were a bunch of real questions. You didn't answer any of them. I also don't think it is policy that children of illegals need to be brought to another state, nor have I suggested that. I also bet that in whatever few examples you have of this happening, the other state the child is taken to happens to be adjacent to the state their parent is in. I'll bet you don't know of a case where the parents were locked up in Arizona and the kid was sent to a facility in Ohio. Are you able to answer those questions I asked? I would add the question 'Was this also happening under Obama?' Under Obama, no. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/1-995-children-separated-families-border-under-zero-tolerance-policy-n883716"Separating parents from children was rare under the Obama administration and in the early part of the Trump administration..." "...usually reserved only for cases where the safety of a child was in question." Why did you cut out the rest of that paragraph? Because it provides the same answer to the same question. The question was "Was this separating of families of illegal aliens happening under Obama?" Plansix told me no. The line I quoted says that it was happening under Obama. The line YOU quoted says it was happening under Obama. There have also recently been fake stories and viral tweets (by CNN contributor(s)) of pictures of children locked in cells that we quickly found out were from 2014, so for someone to tell me that this never happened under Obama is quite the bold claim. I'm open to hearing additional context and reasoning behind these policies, but I get annoyed by deceit and deflection. Because it didn't happen under Obama? I don't know what "this" you're referring to, but if you're attempting to do some all encompassing absolute that "tell me children were never ever separated from parents under Obama", okay, take your internet kudos or something. There are legitimate and justifiable reasons to separate children from parents. Medical reasons, child abuse, etc. And that's not even discussing border crossers or immigrants. I would've hoped that such points could be skipped over as standard fact. Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 15:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:
From the article you linked:
"The "zero-tolerance" policy he announced last month sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry."
"Mr Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence."
"Fact-checkers say that the only thing that has changed is the Justice Department's decision to criminally prosecute parents for a first-time border crossing offense. Because their children are not charged with a crime, they are not permitted to be jailed together." I have no idea what your point is by quoting this to me. What point are you trying to make here? You said "their story sounds different" to P6's post. The article says many are planning to seek asylum. Actually, about a third of the article is about asylum seekers. I also wasn't sure what else you were claiming was different in the story, so I corroborated that this due to policy changes made by Sessions.
He continues to demanding we produce information for one of the current top news stories. Just reading the news about the subject would clear up that the policy was recently signed by Jeff Sessions.
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On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right...
He couldn’t do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right.
I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically.
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On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically.
Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you?
That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow.
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On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow.
Fake news! It's obvious he scotch taped caterpillars to his forehead.
Feels like we're at the top of one of those long distance ski jumps and just rolling over the drop-in.
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On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow.
What is this conspiracy theory?
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On June 17 2018 07:24 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow. What is this conspiracy theory?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/justin-trudeaus-eyebrow/
During a G7 summit speech Trudeau made, there were some people saying Trudeau was wearing fake eyebrows because the shadows made it seem like the eyebrow was tilted, like it was glued on improperly. Unsurprisingly turned into fodder for the right who joked about him being as fake as his eyebrows, a ninny who is all show and no talk, etc.
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On June 17 2018 07:24 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow. What is this conspiracy theory?
Danglars is apparently peddling the theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows. That's the whole of the theory.
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On June 17 2018 07:32 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:24 IgnE wrote:On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow. What is this conspiracy theory? Danglars is apparently peddling the theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows. That's the whole of the theory.
That's insane. That would be like trying to imply the First Lady is really a man because she has muscles in her arms, or that the President is a Muslim seeking to instate Shariah Law because he had mustard on his sandwich that one time.
...Oh.
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On June 17 2018 07:29 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:24 IgnE wrote:On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He can’t do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow. What is this conspiracy theory? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/justin-trudeaus-eyebrow/During a G7 summit speech Trudeau made, there were some people saying Trudeau was wearing fake eyebrows because the shadows made it seem like the eyebrow was tilted, like it was glued on improperly. Unsurprisingly turned into fodder for the right who joked about him being as fake as his eyebrows, a ninny who is all show and no talk, etc.
It was believable, given the absolutely bonkers photos. That’s if we’re being honest about appearances.
But hey, if that was just shadows as people say now, then my bad.
On June 17 2018 07:11 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Everyone loves someone who "stands up" to a bully, and we have little brother complex relating to the states anyway. Too bad JT became leader because of his last name and not because of his talent. So the chances of him taking advantage of it, without excellent advisers, is slim to none.
Yeah 
Maybe Merkel or subordinates can coordinate a response that includes Canada.
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I don't think the factuality of this is really the issue, the problem here is: why are you participating in political discourse that is concerned with the authenticity of Justin Trudeau's eyebrows? Is this politics in the age of Trump?
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It's clearly more important to some than the fact that immigrant children, fleeing active endangerment to their life, are being ripped from their parent's arms, as their parents are sent back to the very danger they were trying to get away from, and the child gets lost in an uncaring immigration system. Honestly, which would you focus on, destroyed families? Or someone's eyebrows? Clearly, the priorities are obvious.
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On June 17 2018 07:56 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:29 PhoenixVoid wrote:On June 17 2018 07:24 IgnE wrote:On June 17 2018 07:01 KwarK wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He can’t do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Surely you're not buying the conspiracy theory that Trudeau doesn't have eyebrows, are you? That dark thing that sometimes appears behind an opaque object in the opposite direction to the light source, that's called a shadow. What is this conspiracy theory? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/justin-trudeaus-eyebrow/During a G7 summit speech Trudeau made, there were some people saying Trudeau was wearing fake eyebrows because the shadows made it seem like the eyebrow was tilted, like it was glued on improperly. Unsurprisingly turned into fodder for the right who joked about him being as fake as his eyebrows, a ninny who is all show and no talk, etc. It was believable, given the absolutely bonkers photos. That’s if we’re being honest about appearances. https://twitter.com/dailycallout/status/1005836637673345025But hey, if that was just shadows as people say now, then my bad. Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 07:11 JimmiC wrote:On June 17 2018 06:46 Danglars wrote:On June 17 2018 05:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i really hope Justin Trudeau employs the tactics his father employed when Pierre Elliott Trudeau was dealing with Nixon.. Even if Justin does this... I don't think Justin has 10% of the intellect of his father. That said, P.E.T.'s approach was pragmatic and pure gold. In particular Pierre Trudeau refused to be labelled... "i'm not a protectionist.. i'm not a nationalist.. i'm not an isolationist... i just want the best deal for Canada.. lets make the best deal we can together... even if the rest of the world hates you ( meaning USA//Nixon) ... we want to make a good deal". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/just-released-1971-recording-captures-talks-between-nixon-pompous-trudeau-1.755465Trump alienating the rest of the world is a great opportunity for Canada if Justin plays his cards right... He do a visit to India right. He can’t affix his eyebrows to his face right. I don’t think he’ll play his cards right. I just think Trumps making it exceedingly easy for Trudeau to grow support domestically. Everyone loves someone who "stands up" to a bully, and we have little brother complex relating to the states anyway. Too bad JT became leader because of his last name and not because of his talent. So the chances of him taking advantage of it, without excellent advisers, is slim to none. Yeah Maybe Merkel or subordinates can coordinate a response that includes Canada.
Video editing software exists and that video looks fake as fuck.
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On June 17 2018 08:05 Nyxisto wrote:
I don't think the factuality of this is really the issue, the problem here is: why are you participating in political discourse that is concerned with the authenticity of Justin Trudeau's eyebrows? Is this politics in the age of Trump?
In the same way you called Trump a “discount Caesar” without seriously implying he had studied the classics and was trying imitation.
How did Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the world’s favorite liberal mascot — a feminist man, with movie-star good looks, a 50 percent female cabinet and a political lexicon that has replaced “mankind” with “peoplekind” (making millions swoon) — end up looking silly, diminished and desperate on his trip to India this week?
Trudeau’s eight-day India expedition has been an absolute fiasco.
I spoke of signifiers of the greater whole. You of all people should know this also from your past discussion of “white Scandinavian dogwhistles.”
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