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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 12:50:07
March 03 2020 12:48 GMT
#43181
On March 03 2020 21:25 Zambrah wrote:
The ballot I filled out in Virginia had lots of candidates no longer in the race such as Cory Booker and Marianne something that I had never even heard of.

I would guess that the vast majority of primary ballots cast this season list at least 3-4 candidates no longer running, probably closer to 6-7.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
March 03 2020 13:39 GMT
#43182
I looked it up and my ballot had 14 total candidates, so I think the 6 - 7 on average is probably right, maybe even conservative since I'd figure a rich state like Virginia would be one of the states to update their ballots, but Iunno.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15469 Posts
March 03 2020 14:07 GMT
#43183
We're here guys. Get hype! Bernieeeeeeee ahhhhhhh
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 03 2020 14:16 GMT
#43184
Judge orders Hillary Clinton deposition in email flap. "Even years after the FBI investigation, the slow trickle of new emails has yet to be explained," Lamberth wrote. He blasted Clinton's prior answers given in response to another judge's order as "incomplete, unhelpful, or cursory, at best."

Clinton was previously required to submit a sworn written statement about her email use, but the deposition—if it takes place—would be the first time she has had to submit to live questioning under oath on the subject.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-118800

And, last I heard, she's still dodging Gabbard's 50m defamation lawsuit.

KTY
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 03 2020 15:11 GMT
#43185
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
March 03 2020 15:28 GMT
#43186
On March 03 2020 23:16 Xxio wrote:
Judge orders Hillary Clinton deposition in email flap. "Even years after the FBI investigation, the slow trickle of new emails has yet to be explained," Lamberth wrote. He blasted Clinton's prior answers given in response to another judge's order as "incomplete, unhelpful, or cursory, at best."

Clinton was previously required to submit a sworn written statement about her email use, but the deposition—if it takes place—would be the first time she has had to submit to live questioning under oath on the subject.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-118800

And, last I heard, she's still dodging Gabbard's 50m defamation lawsuit.

that's for/from Bernie 'cause the DNC is trying to squeeze him out.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 03 2020 15:46 GMT
#43187
On March 03 2020 22:39 Zambrah wrote:
I looked it up and my ballot had 14 total candidates, so I think the 6 - 7 on average is probably right, maybe even conservative since I'd figure a rich state like Virginia would be one of the states to update their ballots, but Iunno.


You can't update your ballots a day or two before the election. Not a realistic expectation.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
March 03 2020 16:03 GMT
#43188
On March 04 2020 00:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 22:39 Zambrah wrote:
I looked it up and my ballot had 14 total candidates, so I think the 6 - 7 on average is probably right, maybe even conservative since I'd figure a rich state like Virginia would be one of the states to update their ballots, but Iunno.


You can't update your ballots a day or two before the election. Not a realistic expectation.


Id expect Cory Booker to be dropped, didnt he leave the race in January?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10639 Posts
March 03 2020 19:09 GMT
#43189
American voting technology never fails to impress.

Are the people technically out? If one of the retired candidatea would fet 15%, what would happen?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22991 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 19:18:34
March 03 2020 19:13 GMT
#43190
On March 04 2020 04:09 Velr wrote:
American voting technology never fails to impress.

Are the people technically out? If one of the retired candidatea would fet 15%, what would happen?


They get delegates that are 'obligated' to vote for the candidate they are a delegate for on the first ballot, then they are 'released' to vote for anyone (doesn't even have to be a politician).

EDIT: National delegates (the ones that go to the national convention) are usually chosen after the states' primary/caucus by various means though. If you remember 2016 there were machinations of trying to plant "Trump delegates" that would be willing to support a different candidate at the convention but that ultimately never had a chance once Trump wrapped up the needed delegates to secure it on the first ballot.

So Pete's Iowa delegates will have to vote for Pete on the first ballot but then they can listen to Pete and vote Joe or do their own thing and vote for Beyonce if they want.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
March 04 2020 09:06 GMT
#43191
Biden did way better than I thought he would on Super Tuesday, i'll say that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 15:14:22
March 04 2020 15:13 GMT
#43192
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 15:54:30
March 04 2020 15:46 GMT
#43193
On March 05 2020 00:13 JimmiC wrote:
A good reminder on why voting for president is so important, the type of person Trump will put in the supreme court is a lot different than the type of person who Biden would put in. So even if you, like me, were hoping for and supporting Bernie. You still have to get out there and vote for Biden because it matters in a big tangible way.

The supreme court is weighing in on Roe again in regards to a Louisiana abortion law.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/04/807923122/beginning-of-the-end-for-roe-supreme-court-weighs-louisiana-abortion-law

If you knew how many times i tried, to avail to make that argument. I give you minutes before you get told that the dems are part of the problem and that Trump and Hillary (sorry,Joe) are two badgers from the same hill working for the oligarchs and the neoliberal elite.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Biden and would much prefer Sanders, but I'm fine if he wins. And while Hillary was not great, the world would be a better place and america's future a lot brighter had she won that election. Outside the immense damage Trump and his cronies have done, the SC absolute awfulness will have repercussions for decades.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12045 Posts
March 04 2020 16:23 GMT
#43194
It wasn't obvious to me that you prefered Sanders to Biden. What is it that you like more about him?
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
March 04 2020 16:32 GMT
#43195
Biff has pretty consistently vocalized support for social democracy. He just also think that a leftist should consider the middle far preferable to the far right.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 16:35:26
March 04 2020 16:34 GMT
#43196
On March 05 2020 01:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Biff has pretty consistently vocalized support for social democracy. He just also think that a leftist should consider the middle far preferable to the far right.


Good for him. Thanks for the information.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22991 Posts
March 04 2020 16:53 GMT
#43197
On March 05 2020 01:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Biff has pretty consistently vocalized support for social democracy. He just also think that a leftist should consider the middle far preferable to the far right.


I'm with MLK jr. and his white moderate commentary on that one
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
March 04 2020 17:06 GMT
#43198
I think if Al Gore had won instead of GWB, the world would be a considerably better place today.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12045 Posts
March 04 2020 17:07 GMT
#43199
On March 05 2020 02:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think if Al Gore had won instead of GWB, the world would be a considerably better place today.


I agree!
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22991 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 17:12:31
March 04 2020 17:10 GMT
#43200
On March 05 2020 02:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think if Al Gore had won instead of GWB, the world would be a considerably better place today.


He did win it, but he gave away the presidency because he's a moderate neoliberal that prefers negative peace to positive peace

the [Oppressed] great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, [or Trump], but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice;

who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the [oppressed] to wait for a "more convenient season."


www.africa.upenn.edu
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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