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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44051 Posts
On February 23 2020 01:26 JimmiC wrote: I think he wins it. Bloomberg got absolutely torched and will again, Biden seems toast, I can't imagine Klob or Butt over taking him. And Warren would need Bernie voters to have a chance and I can't imagine any of them switching. The longer it stays a bunch of candidates the less likely I think it is that anyone catches him. I agree, especially with a bunch of moderates cannibalizing each other and diluting the centrist vote, that Sanders is becoming more and more likely to wind up with more delegates than any other candidate, by the end of the primaries. My main worry, however, is that he only wins a plurality of the delegates (not a majority), which means the superdelegates are allowed to get involved and can entirely let 2nd or 3rd place win the nomination. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Hell, look at Vermont - Bernie had a whopping 85% there in 2016, but it's down to around 50% because of how enormous the field is. That suggests he'd gain as much as 70% of the non-Bernie votes if the field were to be whittled down to just one opponent. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13816 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22991 Posts
Sanders is also leading with Moderates/Conservatives in entrance polling. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44051 Posts
On February 23 2020 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote: Can't believe I'm already hearing how winning by less than 10% is bad for Bernie. These hacks are shameless. Sanders is also leading with Moderates/Conservatives in entrance polling. In before the news headline "Sanders plummets to another plurality victory; can he recover from winning the popular vote in all three states so far?" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24437 Posts
On February 23 2020 05:34 GreenHorizons wrote: Can't believe I'm already hearing how winning by less than 10% is bad for Bernie. These hacks are shameless. Sanders is also leading with Moderates/Conservatives in entrance polling. I saw this referring to something else, but it does apply to media coverage of this too. It’s like the media are basing their coverage on that old school rhyme ‘first the worst, second the best, 3rd the one with the hairy chest’ If you Americans don’t know that reference my apologies lol. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22991 Posts
On February 23 2020 06:07 Wombat_NI wrote: I saw this referring to something else, but it does apply to media coverage of this too. It’s like the media are basing their coverage on that old school rhyme ‘first the worst, second the best, 3rd the one with the hairy chest’ If you Americans don’t know that reference my apologies lol. lmao haven't heard that in forever. Sanders winning 54% of the Latino vote, so here comes the "not those PoC" lines from corporate stooges. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On February 23 2020 06:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: In before the news headline "Sanders plummets to another plurality victory; can he recover from winning the popular vote in all three states so far?" Bro™ the other candidates have more votes than him collectively, how is that a winning candidate?  On February 23 2020 06:20 GreenHorizons wrote: lmao haven't heard that in forever. Sanders winning 54% of the Latino vote, so here comes the "not those PoC" lines from corporate stooges. Only black people who didnt get stop and frisked and voted moderate are PoC you racist PoS EDIT: Also that saying is really common from where I'm from in the US | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On February 23 2020 06:07 Wombat_NI wrote: I saw this referring to something else, but it does apply to media coverage of this too. It’s like the media are basing their coverage on that old school rhyme ‘first the worst, second the best, 3rd the one with the hairy chest’ If you Americans don’t know that reference my apologies lol. Funnily, the version I grew up with was 'third the royal princess'. So... Harris for teh win??? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24437 Posts
On February 23 2020 07:08 iamthedave wrote: Funnily, the version I grew up with was 'third the royal princess'. So... Harris for teh win??? It may be a more accurate predictive model than whatever the hell the pundit class are using anyway. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On February 23 2020 06:20 GreenHorizons wrote: lmao haven't heard that in forever. Sanders winning 54% of the Latino vote, so here comes the "not those PoC" lines from corporate stooges. They'll probably switch back to the "Bernie's support is too *urban*" argument again. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22991 Posts
On February 23 2020 07:25 StasisField wrote: They'll probably switch back to the "Bernie's support is too *urban*" argument again. They've been leaning into the antisemitism and now they're going with "Russia wants Bernie, are you a Russian asset!?" It's sad and hilarious at the same time to me. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22991 Posts
On February 23 2020 07:28 LegalLord wrote: A few hours in, and we already have 2% of the results. MUCH better than Iowa already. The final count is anyone's guess and will inevitably be of questionable reliability, but Bernie is winning so resoundingly it will be interesting to see just how long they can go before they just call it (based on their own observations in the field) regardless of what the party does. EDIT: Warren rally in Seattle is dismal. This is surprising to me because she had a lot of organizers working there and had 15,000 in Seattle earlier in the campaign. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12045 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On February 23 2020 07:47 StasisField wrote: A pundit on CNN just had a very self-aware moment. Said he was seeing deja vu and that they (referring to the media) were making the same arguments they made against Trump like having a low ceiling. The comparison definitely does come to mind. Perhaps more important for them to realize: why exactly is it that they're so strongly against Bernie that he's notionally a lot like Trump in that regard? Trump is so very far from the CNN base that it makes sense, but Bernie is very much in the same camp ideologically, so it might be worth realizing what the real story is there... | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22991 Posts
On February 23 2020 07:53 Nebuchad wrote: So this is going well :D Dem's have 200 paid staffers working a call center and still can't manage to get results reported in without tons of reports of busy signals but yeah, clearly time to unite around the nominee and stop doing Republican's job tearing him down. EDIT: For reference, we had 88% of the vote in at this point in 2016 | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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