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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 15:48:11
May 08 2019 15:47 GMT
#28701
Meanwhile in Georgia, they have passed laws making illegal to get an abortion(6 weeks is when most women discover they are preggers), leaving the state to get an abortion(unclear how this is enforced or if it applies to people passing through) and miscarriages could be criminal. I haven’t seen an abortion ban shit overt and shitty in my life time.

Oh yeah, it’s a ban. Don’t even try to say it isn’t because of the 6 weeks thing. Reality does not support that weak ass argument.



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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 16:03:45
May 08 2019 15:58 GMT
#28702
Absolutely insane, trampling on both women's rights and healthcare by projecting murder charges. Like we're back in the 19th century. I'd be more surprised they haven't done that shit here in Florida, but we're like a snow globe in a blender when it comes to things making sense here. I love how even miscarriage is covered under this bass-ackwards law. So all they have to do is bring in some pro-lifer who arbitrarily thinks the woman is responsible for it, and she gets put away. That's a nice new avenue for taking a shit on women.

And actually, with this law, if a woman gets raped and tries to abort the baby, she gets off so much worse than the rapist ever will. Talk about good family values.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 08 2019 16:03 GMT
#28703
All comes down to SCOTUS. I imagine they will overrule Roe and make abortion a state decision. Tho I am curious how that will affect the criminalization part. It's one thing to ban abortions. It's a whole different ball game to charge people with murder for doing it.

Even if Roe was overturned the backlash and outrage against charging a woman who got an abortion, or worse a miscarriage, with murder would be epic. It's like redneck Sharia law.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 16:09:09
May 08 2019 16:06 GMT
#28704
The fact that we, as a country, have to waste time with these bullshit laws every year going through our federal courts system in a joke. I would love to say that passing laws making abortion legal would solve the problem, but it wouldn't. The anti-women's health and rights lobby just try to get those laws overturned.

Edit: The most cynical part of me wants Roe to be overturned just so we use the collective rage about it to push political change and get better protections in the long term. But then I remember that I'm effectively hoping for other people to be hurt as a path to a potential political victory, which is complete shit.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 16:20:29
May 08 2019 16:11 GMT
#28705
Per WaPo, Texas is working on a law that would allow capital punishment "for those receiving or performing an abortion." Similarly, Alabama is working in a bill which makes abortions a felony (up to 99 years in prison) without any exceptions for rape/incest.

Again, redneck Sharia law.

Edit: a Georgia appellate attorney pointing out some of absurdity that will result if this bill goes into effect:

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 16:27:16
May 08 2019 16:24 GMT
#28706
In other news, the video game industry has become truly main stream and gotten the attention of congress once again: This time for loot boxes. The industry's inability to control themselves by making games which are pay to win and filled with gambling boxes(loot boxes are designed with a lot of the same research that went into slot machines) had lead to a Republican introducing legislation to ban the practice. We will need to see how this turns out, but this bill could go someplace if he gets support. Especially since video games publishers have almost no lobby in DC and there is no stopping the angry parents lobby.

Now, we will all rush to blame EA, but I doubt they were the source of this problem. As much as AAA games are filled with lootbox trash, Iphone and Ipad games publishers beyond shameless when it comes to this stuff. They are practically designed to trick kids into buying things using their parents accounts. And no amount of parental controls will stop a determined child who wants to buy some boosts for their favorite game. They will find a way, just like I found a way into to obtain illegal fireworks as an 11 year old.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/8/18536806/game-studios-banned-loot-boxes-minors-bill-hawley-josh-blizzard-ea

Also on the topic of games going main stream, there is a really good article about Fortnight and bullying due to skins and cosmetics. It is really well researched and something I wouldn't be aware of since I don't have kids. The shocking part of the story is the number of parents in the comments talking about experiences with their kids being called "Default"(default skin/weapons) and the social anxiety around not having the coolest stuff. Its like the worst parts of bullying poor kids for not having designer cloths, but in a video game.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/7/18534431/fortnite-rare-default-skins-bullying-harassment

We live is a shitty, cyberpunk future without flying cars and where the mega-corporations are just negligent and self absorbed, rather than ruthlessly efficient.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44286 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 18:01:48
May 08 2019 16:25 GMT
#28707
I won’t be satisfied until the unborn have full second amendment rights. The only way of stopping a bad fetus with a gun is a good fetus with a gun.
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Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
May 08 2019 16:50 GMT
#28708
Video game loot boxes have been under fire in Europe before, i'm surprised this is just reaching North america. It is indeed scummy practice by game companies/producers that pray on people. It's even more egregious when you pay 60 dollars for a triple A game and then are pushed in buying endless MTX(microtransactions) which well not required in "most" games are heavily sought after because people wish to stand out, spice up their character, or the world. Frankly I've never had a big issue with this but that's due to me being cheap as heck anyways so I would rarely pay 60 bones for a game and definetly wouldnt get sucked into buying cosmetic items.
"We didnt listen"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 16:57:55
May 08 2019 16:56 GMT
#28709
I don't have a problem with it for adults at all, within reason. I'm all about buying fresh outfits in video games, because player avatars are just digital action figures. But video games have always been marketed to kids and there needs to be more protection. This is not a new issue at all. EA's FIFA games had their ultimate team system and there were tons of stories about teenagers spending stupid amounts of money on that system. And they would release a new one every year. But I think the FIFA thing flew under the radar because it wasn't popular in the US and it was still a subset of the entire gaming industry. But now its everywhere and 1000 times more shameless for mobile games.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 08 2019 17:01 GMT
#28710
On May 09 2019 00:47 Plansix wrote:
Meanwhile in Georgia, they have passed laws making illegal to get an abortion(6 weeks is when most women discover they are preggers), leaving the state to get an abortion(unclear how this is enforced or if it applies to people passing through) and miscarriages could be criminal. I haven’t seen an abortion ban shit overt and shitty in my life time.

Oh yeah, it’s a ban. Don’t even try to say it isn’t because of the 6 weeks thing. Reality does not support that weak ass argument.



https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1125857619191660544

Pretty sure that doesn't work with jurisdiction.
On May 09 2019 01:25 KwarK wrote:
I don’t be satisfied until the unborn have full second amendment rights. The only way of stopping a bad fetus with a gun is a good fetus with a gun.

I think you mean the fetus wouldn't have been aborted if it had a gun
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 08 2019 17:09 GMT
#28711
On May 09 2019 02:01 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2019 00:47 Plansix wrote:
Meanwhile in Georgia, they have passed laws making illegal to get an abortion(6 weeks is when most women discover they are preggers), leaving the state to get an abortion(unclear how this is enforced or if it applies to people passing through) and miscarriages could be criminal. I haven’t seen an abortion ban shit overt and shitty in my life time.

Oh yeah, it’s a ban. Don’t even try to say it isn’t because of the 6 weeks thing. Reality does not support that weak ass argument.



https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1125857619191660544

Pretty sure that doesn't work with jurisdiction.

I'm sure it doesn't, but that has never stopped police or local DA's from using a bad law to do bad things. And the person who is charged would still need an attorney and to fight the charges. Hopefully the ACLU and other groups get all of this stayed and ruled as to terrible to be a law.
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Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
May 08 2019 17:23 GMT
#28712
On May 09 2019 01:11 On_Slaught wrote:
Per WaPo, Texas is working on a law that would allow capital punishment "for those receiving or performing an abortion." Similarly, Alabama is working in a bill which makes abortions a felony (up to 99 years in prison) without any exceptions for rape/incest.

Again, redneck Sharia law.

Edit: a Georgia appellate attorney pointing out some of absurdity that will result if this bill goes into effect:

https://twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1125777961074999301

I think it's better described as Christian Sharia law, because that better captures the hypocrisy of the people who fearmonger about Sharia law in the United States but wholeheartedly support this garbage.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 08 2019 17:24 GMT
#28713
On May 09 2019 02:01 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2019 00:47 Plansix wrote:
Meanwhile in Georgia, they have passed laws making illegal to get an abortion(6 weeks is when most women discover they are preggers), leaving the state to get an abortion(unclear how this is enforced or if it applies to people passing through) and miscarriages could be criminal. I haven’t seen an abortion ban shit overt and shitty in my life time.

Oh yeah, it’s a ban. Don’t even try to say it isn’t because of the 6 weeks thing. Reality does not support that weak ass argument.



https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1125857619191660544

Pretty sure that doesn't work with jurisdiction.
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2019 01:25 KwarK wrote:
I don’t be satisfied until the unborn have full second amendment rights. The only way of stopping a bad fetus with a gun is a good fetus with a gun.

I think you mean the fetus wouldn't have been aborted if it had a gun

Any fetus has the God-given right to defend itself from oppression by the mother(land).
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 08 2019 17:30 GMT
#28714
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
May 08 2019 17:37 GMT
#28715
On May 09 2019 01:11 On_Slaught wrote:
Per WaPo, Texas is working on a law that would allow capital punishment "for those receiving or performing an abortion." Similarly, Alabama is working in a bill which makes abortions a felony (up to 99 years in prison) without any exceptions for rape/incest.

Again, redneck Sharia law.

Edit: a Georgia appellate attorney pointing out some of absurdity that will result if this bill goes into effect:

https://twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1125777961074999301


Correction: "Christian Sharia law."

Shout out to Dean Obeidallah.
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
May 08 2019 17:38 GMT
#28716
On May 09 2019 01:25 KwarK wrote:
I don’t be satisfied until the unborn have full second amendment rights. The only way of stopping a bad fetus with a gun is a good fetus with a gun.


LOL
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 17:40:42
May 08 2019 17:40 GMT
#28717
On May 09 2019 02:30 JimmiC wrote:
The miscarriage part is by far the scariest, or still born's as they get further along. This is already a super devastating emotional event. Many mothers no matter how many times they are told by doctors that it wasn't their fault put blame on themselves. I can only imagine how horrible that interrogation is going to go for all parties involved. There is also ignorant or angry men who already blame the women, this will add fuel to the fire. Not to go all slippery slope because it is horrible enough just as is but the consequences are far bigger.

I really wish the pro-life movement would spend all their time an attention on improving the lives of all the currently born children. A lot more value would come from that and a lot less hate.


Taking care of existing children costs money, time, effort and requires governing. Prohibiting women from getting abortions doesn’t require any of that. You just make it illegal and then the police go after the lawbreaking women and doctors. And it makes the pro-life lobby feel good because they are protecting babies without having to do anything.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 08 2019 18:02 GMT
#28718
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24341 Posts
May 08 2019 19:14 GMT
#28719
On May 09 2019 01:25 KwarK wrote:
I won’t be satisfied until the unborn have full second amendment rights. The only way of stopping a bad fetus with a gun is a good fetus with a gun.


I feel like this would make a great bumper sticker. You think it would sell better among Republicans or Democrats though?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
May 08 2019 19:17 GMT
#28720
Trump is saying some very dumb stuff about those released tax returns and the losses they describe, Mulvaney better take his Twitter away ASAP lol
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