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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ChristianS
United States3193 Posts
On April 06 2019 00:57 KwarK wrote: He’s almost certainly going to lose his Foundation and be barred from serving on the Board of any other non profit as a result of his self dealing. And even if he wasn’t legally barred no non profit would take him. Self dealing is pretty much the one thing you can’t do on the Board of a non profit. But as you say, it’s not clear what criminal proceedings will take place. It’ll most likely end in a tax bill to the IRS and a ruling that he’s too unethical to be responsible for a non profit, which is amusing given his current position. So to be sure I understand this right: if I’m funneling money from a corporation I work for to my pocket, it’s embezzlement and I go to jail. If I do the same with a charity, it’s self-dealing and they just bill me and tell me I’m not allowed to run a charity any more? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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KwarK
United States43009 Posts
On April 06 2019 03:37 ChristianS wrote: So to be sure I understand this right: if I’m funneling money from a corporation I work for to my pocket, it’s embezzlement and I go to jail. If I do the same with a charity, it’s self-dealing and they just bill me and tell me I’m not allowed to run a charity any more? Would probably depend on the specifics. I worked on a Foundation that did a shitton of self dealing by accident. The family owned a construction company. The company donated a million bucks to the family foundation. Family foundation then paid the construction company $100k to build a homeless shelter. Nobody benefited from doing it, it wasn’t a scam. It’s just instead of building it for free they gave the foundation money then took money for building it. If I recall correctly they’re just returning the cash to their foundation so effectively they made a 1.1m donation, 1m cash, 100k building. Refiling a bunch of returns too, reclassifying some transactions. But they’re all super rich anyway and they all meant well. What Trump did by paying off business debts with Foundation money and buying himself art using it as a slush fund is considerably more egregious. But the question of who the stakeholders who were harmed were and how to address that harm is complicated. The only stakeholders who cared about the Foundation I worked on (I actually discovered the self dealing in what was meant to be a super easy job) were the IRS, who learned about it after I’d already unwound it from the refiled returns, and the individuals, who just wanted to follow the law. Retroactively reclassifying everything to make it legally compliant fixed everything before anything actually came of it. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15721 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25771 Posts
On April 06 2019 07:24 Mohdoo wrote: Can Biden please just bail already. He's so clearly screwed at this point. What’s he done now? | ||
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KwarK
United States43009 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
If not, well at least he isn't walking into a miss teen usa dressing room and looking at teenagers naked | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21824 Posts
On April 06 2019 07:46 KwarK wrote: Because his supporters eat it up without a problem and it leaves enough at the back of the mind of everyone else.It’s amazing to me that Trump, who is closely linked to Epstein and attended Epstein’s private parties with underage girls, is really pushing the “creepy” Biden angle. Project much? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15721 Posts
Seeing more and more mainstream articles saying Biden isn't handling his creepiness well. Biden's single shot at the nomination was a huge establishment finger on the scale kinda deal. He isn't nearly as charismatic as his TheOnion persona. His history with the drug war and a million other things is extremely meme-able. From the centrist angle, Beto and Klobuchar have him beat in every single column except "used to work with Obama". He is truly coating on nothing more than name recognition. It's not that there is anything WRONG with him running, it is just so clearly over at this point. I can't think of a single person I know who is rooting for Biden in any way other than "if he gets the nomination, totally voting for him". | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On April 06 2019 07:49 IyMoon wrote: I don't get people... Let Biden run, if he really is creepy then it all comes out and he loses the primary. If not, well at least he isn't walking into a miss teen usa dressing room and looking at teenagers naked Yeah but that's good because of reasons. Or it's become one of those things Trump supporters just file under 'things a US President can be forgiven for doing providing he prevents women having abortions. Or at least tries. Or claims he will. Honestly we'll take him at a pinky swear'. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On April 06 2019 08:10 Plansix wrote: Our president is a racist peice of shit calling asylum seekers animals on national TV. He lies about the state of our border towns being war zones and we are still abusing children in camps. And for those who have been playing attention, the discourse on networks like Fox has moved from illegal immigrants to calling legal immigration an invasion and talk about how all immigrants don’t “assimilate”. I wish our cable news networks had the guts to run real coverage of how badly these people are treated at the border, but that likely isn’t good for ratings. We've gone over this piece of fake news before in the thread. The question was on MS-13 gang members. They sell girls for sex and hack up the bodies of their victims. They treat humans as if they were animals. I really think people that keep hacking up quotes and not showing questions should be treated as just the same liar that the President is. I really think this. He says a lot of really detestable things in his own right that making up comments about "asylum seekers" just worsens your case. On May 18 2018 02:41 IgnE wrote: plansix are you arguing that a majority of the US population have serious qualms about referring to vicious criminals as animals? how about serial killers? how about terrorists? IgnE asked you on May 18, 2018, referring to the same clip you posted, whether you had serious qualms about this. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And to be honest, I’m not comfortable with a president calling anyone animals. That office has the power to order lethal military action and should outwardly project respect for all human life. All of our presidents are stone cold killers, so they should try to depict the best of us, not the worst: | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On April 06 2019 08:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: You cannot shift blame to people calling him what he is repeatedly. You're welcome to call him a racist because he called MS-13 gang members animals last year. Just do the thread a favor and don't use his alleged status as a racist to falsify new evidence of the case. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On April 06 2019 09:04 Plansix wrote: Is this an old quote? Because I’ve been seeing that he repeated this trash today. Maybe it was not on video. Or I’ve been fooled. And to be honest, I’m not comfortable with a president calling anyone animals. That office has the power to order lethal military action and should outwardly project respect for all human life. All of our presidents are stone cold killers, so they should try to depict the best of us, not the worst: The video you showed embedded was from last year, and was commented by you, and IgnE and me soon afterwards. Last year too, CNN took the video out of context (MS-13) to imply he had said this about all immigrants. Now, you accidentally cited someone else repeating the same lie about the President. This time, he pretended that Trump had said it about asylum seekers in the video. Fake news about Trump gets irritating after a while. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Edit: While we are still a ways away from meaningful debates and discourse about 2020, I've changed my ticket. It is now Beto/Yang. Would be nice if Klobuchar or Harris or even Gabbart made a splash, but the patriarchy is too strong I believe. | ||
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