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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
This with new polling showing that less than 30% of the country approve of the shutdown or the wall in general. But to be honest, it doesn’t matter. He can give a state of the union with a shut down government and look like a damn fool praising his administrations accomplishments while being guarded by people he refuses to pay. It will be just like his days in real estate. On January 24 2019 02:55 Starlightsun wrote: On the news they said part of Trump's proposal is that asylum seekers have to go through the process in their own countries. Isn't that effectively just barring most people from countries that are severely destabilized? On the other hand, our court system appears to have an impossibly large back log. Yes. It also puts quotas on the number of asylum seekers from that area too. It is what we call a poison pill. It makes the bill impossible for the Democrats to vote for. This bill wasn’t negotiated with the Democrats. It was negotiated with the Republicans. This isn’t a plan to open the government, but to make the Democrat look bad. It’s a bad plan too, because Democrats are not shy about shitting on bills they had no hand it crafting. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
WH has already published that they (and Pres. Trump) accept him as only legal representation of Venezuela. Let's see if they are willing to push that through... | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On January 24 2019 02:55 Starlightsun wrote: On the news they said part of Trump's proposal is that asylum seekers have to go through the process in their own countries. Isn't that effectively just barring most people from countries that are severely destabilized? On the other hand, our court system appears to have an impossibly large back log. Yes. Also, and I can't stress this enough, it's a human rights violation. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
Also, I’m glad this story about Biden being paid 200k to give an October 2018 speech in western Michigan in support of Fred Upton, a Republican who barely held onto his congressional seat, is hitting the waves. He is not the path forward for Dems. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Also he specifically cites threats from the President against his family. It is Cohen, so take it with a grain of salt. But also Trump has been actively calling for an investigation into Cohen's family. On January 24 2019 03:59 farvacola wrote: Could be related to potential obstruction of justice charges? Cohen refusing to give testimony shores up the notion that Trump’s threats have led to a palpable, direct injury. Also, I’m glad this story about Biden being paid 200k to give an October 2018 speech in western Michigan in support of Fred Upton, a Republican who barely held into his congressional seat, is hitting the waves. He is not the path forward for Dems. I saw that and I’m very glad. I like Biden as a whole, but the man is living in the past and needs to leave politics. I don’t care if that Republican was Biden’s friend, from all reports the guy opposes the ACA in every way. There was no reason to give that speech and he could have easily avoided it. It is only icing on the cake that he got 200K for doing it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Well, I hope AOC doesn't have to get involved, but if she does, I hope she doesn't hesitate to throw her weight behind someone not-Biden. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On January 24 2019 04:32 Plansix wrote: The one thing I’m sure of when it comes to the democrats is they are going to do everything in their power to prevent infighting during the primaries. Of course people are going to get to endorse who they want, but they won’t let 2016 happen. They are already trying to create a blind lottery for debates to assure every candidate has a slot if they have to hold them over two days. And lucky for all of us, everyone who was in charge of the DNC during 2016 was purged from leadership. It all comes down to whether or not "the establishment" will fight what is happening or not. And I don't think they will. This blue wave was such a surge or energy from younger people that there is just no way they feel like they could get away with tipping scales. I'll be really frustrated if the establishment backs either Warren or Biden, since they are basically only there because of seniority. Warren was like an intro to Bernie, but we are so past that at this point. And she has a remarkably small amount of charisma. Same with Biden. Their messaging is very poor. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On January 24 2019 02:57 Plansix wrote: Trump also just sent a letter to the House saying that he will be showing up Tuesday for the State of the Union. Which again, he can’t do unless the House calls a Joint Session and the Speaker wants him there. This with new polling showing that less than 30% of the country approve of the shutdown or the wall in general. But to be honest, it doesn’t matter. He can give a state of the union with a shut down government and look like a damn fool praising his administrations accomplishments while being guarded by people he refuses to pay. It will be just like his days in real estate. Pelosi just responded telling him to screw off. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32761 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On January 24 2019 05:09 Gorsameth wrote: I wonder what happens if Trump just shows up on the 29th. Sergeant at Arms wouldnt let him in the chamber I imagine. While I'd love to see him try, I wouldn't get my hope up. He will try and convince McConnell to let him use the Senate chamber (tho seating there would be an issue) and if that doesnt work he'll do it from the White House, or worse, some impromptu rally with a bunch of cultists cheering him on. Hell, maybe even WV! The Governor has personally invited Trump to give the SOTU from the WV Capital. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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