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farvacola
United States18854 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On January 23 2019 06:41 farvacola wrote: The reporting has been all over the place on it, but yes, it does appear that there will be at least two separate votes, one on the wall funding and one on reopening the government. Holy shit... the dems are going to win if it goes to a vote in the senate | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On January 23 2019 06:41 farvacola wrote: The reporting has been all over the place on it, but yes, it does appear that there will be at least two separate votes, one on the wall funding and one on reopening the government without wall funding. So Mitch caved. All of the pressure from AOC and other places probably paid off here. People were ignoring Mitch for WAY too long and then it finally stopped. This allows for there to be a vote with and without wall, showing how well the government could function without this insane campaign promise. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On January 23 2019 07:18 Plansix wrote: It is tough to tell. I don’t think they could have put Trump’s proposal forward without letting the House bill to the floor as well. But I think there is a growing concern in the GOP that they are going to have to force Trump’s hand to get the government re-opened. McConnell is not somebody who acts in good faith so I'll believe it when I see it. All it takes is one call from the WH and you'll see the House bill vote cancelled while the poison pill one goes forward. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On January 23 2019 07:34 On_Slaught wrote: McConnell is not somebody who acts in good faith so I'll believe it when I see it. All it takes is one call from the WH and you'll see the House bill vote cancelled while the poison pill one goes forward. Pulling it will look horrible. The republicans are already getting beat up over this so more bad press isn't a good idea | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 23 2019 07:34 On_Slaught wrote: McConnell is not somebody who acts in good faith so I'll believe it when I see it. All it takes is one call from the WH and you'll see the House bill vote cancelled while the poison pill one goes forward. I think it is far more likely that both bills fail and we are back where we started. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On January 23 2019 07:44 IyMoon wrote: Pulling it will look horrible. The republicans are already getting beat up over this so more bad press isn't a good idea I doubt the average American even understands what is going on between all these different bills. If McConnell was fine holding a SCOTUS seat hostage he will have no problem doing whatever is necessary to try and "win" in this scenario. I dont trust the snake one bit, so again I'll believe it when I see it. Even if the House bill get voted on I expect it will still fail despite the fact Senate Republicans voted unanimously for basically the same bill last month. Would be pretty embarrassing to have the bill reach the president after all this bluster, so I can see him rallying votes against it. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On January 23 2019 07:58 On_Slaught wrote: I doubt the average American even understands what is going on between all these different bills. If McConnell was fine holding a SCOTUS seat hostage he will have no problem doing whatever is necessary to try and "win" in this scenario. I dont trust the snake one bit, so again I'll believe it when I see it. Even if the House bill get voted on I expect it will still fail despite the fact Senate Republicans voted unanimously for basically the same bill last month. Would be pretty embarrassing to have the bill reach the president after all this bluster, so I can see him rallying votes against it. Holding up scotus nomination is far less impactful on people's immediate lives than month long government shut down. But yeah probably even if house bill gets through it will be voted down or vetoed. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22102 Posts
On January 23 2019 08:49 Starlightsun wrote: Veto is a big win for Democrats in battle for public opinion, which is basically all that matters in breaking this deadlock.Holding up scotus nomination is far less impactful on people's immediate lives than month long government shut down. But yeah probably even if house bill gets through it will be voted down or vetoed. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But this is how the left gets what they want. No protest votes or uselessly submitting the same bill to congress. Get power on powerful committees and use it. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
To top it all off, all of these people who have unhealthy reverence for titles are going to hate seeing her ruin Trump's life. AOC, guide the party. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The other thing I like about AOC is that I know she has faced some opposition within the Democratic party for how outspoken she is. But she never talks about that. She keeps the focus on the GOP’s obsession with her and keeps all the in party infighting on the DL. A lesser politician would run to her supporters, but she is smart enough to know that she has to win her own fights within the party to get anything done. It also doesn’t help that she makes Republicans look silly constantly by being completely unapologetic. On January 24 2019 02:06 ticklishmusic wrote: I had tempered expectations since she was a freshman congresswoman who is about my age, but she's done very, very well so far. No real gaffes, and the way she's been handling the haters has been masterful. The few times she did something silly, she just let it roll off her back and corrected her mistake. | ||
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farvacola
United States18854 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
Trump’s Lawyer Said There Were “No Plans” For Trump Tower Moscow. Here They Are. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/here-are-the-trump-moscow-plans | ||
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