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how long does a keg stay cold

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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 08 2007 01:48 GMT
#1
simple question.

how long does a keg of beer stay cold if left at room temperature. anyone know from experience? LOL I GUESS I COULD CALCULATE IT WITH MY ENGINEERING KNOWLEDGE
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 08 2007 01:50 GMT
#2
If you leave it at room temperature it's not cold.
Therefore, 0 time.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 08 2007 01:51 GMT
#3
Depends on volume, climate, is it exposed to sunlight through a window? Will a dog piss on it? These are the kinds of things we have to know.

BTW HOMEWORK THREAD

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MyCrow
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)248 Posts
May 08 2007 01:53 GMT
#4
Also depends on what you consider cold.
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 01:56:53
May 08 2007 01:56 GMT
#5
a full 1/2 keg, cold enough so that it can be put in ice one hour before a party and be drinkable. air conditioned room (~25 C), no sunlight
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 08 2007 01:56 GMT
#6
and yes this is a homework thread

PERHAPS THE GREATEST ASSIGNMENT OF MY ENTIRE COLLEGE CAREER
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KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
May 08 2007 01:59 GMT
#7
somebody is excited
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 02:00:15
May 08 2007 01:59 GMT
#8
LOL LIL SIS

research aluminium thermal conductivity gogog

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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 08 2007 02:01 GMT
#9
What college do you go to?
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 08 2007 02:11 GMT
#10
columbia
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 08 2007 02:14 GMT
#11
let me come help u wit ur assignment lol >>__>>
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 02:15:40
May 08 2007 02:15 GMT
#12
Damn, given the assignment, I thought I had another Milwaukee student on my hands.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 08 2007 02:17 GMT
#13
just get the keg a few days beforehand, and do a CONTROLLED EXPERIMENT GOGOGO CHEM E MAJOR MUAHAHAH
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
May 08 2007 02:24 GMT
#14
assuming it's chilled before it's put in the room, it'll stay cold all night.
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bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
May 08 2007 02:26 GMT
#15
lol 1/2 keg? what kind of party is that... just get one of those large buckets from walmart with the rope handles and put the keg inside and fill it up with ice.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
May 08 2007 02:31 GMT
#16
Sounds like a good excuse to test it out
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 02:37:02
May 08 2007 02:35 GMT
#17
This is a pretty hard question (done accurately). Because the keg is a weird shape you have to do 2D heat transfer instead of 1D, which means you need to use Matlab or Excel to set up a 2D array of nodes representing the height/radius of the keg and then rotate it around 360 degrees. You know the starting temperature inside and the outside temperature. Assume the fluid inside only moves due to natural convection. You have natural convection inside the fluid, conduction through the keg wall and then natural convection in the room outside the keg wall. Assume the bottom of the keg experiences 0 heat transfer (unless you want to do conduction through carpet).

Slap all that into Matlab and iterate about 100 times and you'll find the time. I don't want to give better instructions because this was a like a final project I did in heat and mass trasnfer and it took about 2 weeks because we had no idea how to do it. Something about the A x b matrix. As if that helps. Good luck!

The MUCH easier way is to assume the keg cools evenly (all the fluid gains heat evenly). I forget what this is called, not steady state, something else with an s. Anyways, then its just:

FLUID (T,h) ---- KEGWALL (r) ---- OUTSIDE (T,h)
which should be pretty easy to solve but I forget how. haha useless as ever.
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OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 08 2007 02:39 GMT
#18
better chug it fast just in case;o
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 02:48:18
May 08 2007 02:48 GMT
#19
I red that as leg, and wasn't surprised that lil.sis had made the thread..
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 08 2007 02:50 GMT
#20
Heat gain through room radiation is negligible, right? ~_~
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 03:44:44
May 08 2007 03:43 GMT
#21
On May 08 2007 11:26 bdams19 wrote:
lol 1/2 keg? what kind of party is that... just get one of those large buckets from walmart with the rope handles and put the keg inside and fill it up with ice.


in this particular situation that's 2 pitchers per person

edit: i analyzed the scenario and determined that the keg, after all, does not need to remain unchilled. we'll just pick it up right before the party. thanks for your help guyz

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Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
May 08 2007 03:53 GMT
#22
i doubt anybody cares about the temperature after a few beers.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 08 2007 03:55 GMT
#23
On May 08 2007 12:43 lil.sis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2007 11:26 bdams19 wrote:
lol 1/2 keg? what kind of party is that... just get one of those large buckets from walmart with the rope handles and put the keg inside and fill it up with ice.


in this particular situation that's 2 pitchers per person

edit: i analyzed the scenario and determined that the keg, after all, does not need to remain unchilled. we'll just pick it up right before the party. thanks for your help guyz



congrats on graduation~~
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
May 08 2007 04:00 GMT
#24
On May 08 2007 12:53 Jim wrote:
i doubt anybody cares about the temperature after a few beers.


have you ever had warm beer on a hot summer's night?
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8841 Posts
May 08 2007 04:09 GMT
#25
The first class I made sure to forget after University was Partial Differential Equations - but this sounds like a 2D Heat Equation question in cylindrical coordinates. Disgusting stuff.

Unless ofcourse you haven't botherd with PDEs yet, in which case it's probably a gay ass Matlab model. Fuck I hated school.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 21:05:09
May 08 2007 04:09 GMT
#26
~20min
drinkable for maybe 20 more


edit: haha, screw that. i confused keg with jug/pitcher.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 08 2007 04:14 GMT
#27
On May 08 2007 12:53 Jim wrote:
i doubt anybody cares about the temperature after a few beers.


Go to hell.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 08 2007 14:58 GMT
#28
im fucking trashed to bits. the keg was successful. many people turned out. and we got drunk in the least likely of scenarios. thank you all ofr your help again

<3 LS
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OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 08 2007 15:07 GMT
#29
mission accomplished!

grats~
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 08 2007 19:04 GMT
#30
You shouldn't need to keep it at all
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 08 2007 20:36 GMT
#31
hahahah
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Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
May 08 2007 21:43 GMT
#32
This question is akin to "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?", no?
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Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 22:09:59
May 08 2007 22:07 GMT
#33
Edit: Did you use any of these?

[image loading]


PLEASE SAY YOU ARE!

It is my dream to go to America and drink beer from those red plastic cups with the white rim and white interior! Hollywood movie style! YES!

Locked knows what I'm talking about.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8841 Posts
May 08 2007 22:11 GMT
#34
We have those in Canada too!

Only our beer is much better as well - hence you should alter your dream.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
May 08 2007 22:37 GMT
#35
On May 09 2007 07:07 Smurg wrote:
Edit: Did you use any of these?

[image loading]


PLEASE SAY YOU ARE!

It is my dream to go to America and drink beer from those red plastic cups with the white rim and white interior! Hollywood movie style! YES!

Locked knows what I'm talking about.


Huh? I really think every keg party I've been at used those.
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 08 2007 22:39 GMT
#36
haha we used clear cups last night but the red cups are usually the standard

god last night was epic

my poor, poor liver
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bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
May 08 2007 22:42 GMT
#37
On May 08 2007 13:14 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2007 12:53 Jim wrote:
i doubt anybody cares about the temperature after a few beers.


Go to hell.


first time i think i have agreed with any of ur posts
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
May 08 2007 22:48 GMT
#38
On May 09 2007 07:39 lil.sis wrote:
haha we used clear cups last night but the red cups are usually the standard

god last night was epic

my poor, poor liver

Dammit, they don't sell red cups in Australia.

EXPORT ME SOME FOR MY B'DAY...WHICH IS NEXT WEEK!
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-08 23:34:25
May 08 2007 23:33 GMT
#39
there you go smurg:
red cups
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
May 08 2007 23:41 GMT
#40
Haha. Expensive cups....

This is more like it:

Yeahhhhh!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 09 2007 00:46 GMT
#41
get them for like 30 cents from china
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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-09 01:05:38
May 09 2007 01:04 GMT
#42
If you leave it off ice overnight, it'll be back at room temperature by morning. Though honestly it doesn't matter. Unless you have co2 tubes controlling pressure, your keg will be bad by the next evening anyways. It might be mildly drinkable if you pump the hell out of it at the end of the first night before going to bed (to re-pressurize the beer.)

What I'd recommend is putting a deposit on a bin or using a trash can and buying about 6 bags of ice with your keg. Start with 3 on the sides and 1 on top and dump two more in later in the evening. That'll keep it plenty cold for the evening. If you don't think you can drink a keg in one night, I'd recommend other alternatives since you'll just be wasting beer.

A pony keg (1/4 barrel) holds about 90 beers and a 1/2 barrel is about 180. If you don't see yourself drinking either, buy cases.
t.t
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-09 03:04:06
May 09 2007 02:59 GMT
#43
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
May 09 2007 03:17 GMT
#44
On May 08 2007 23:58 lil.sis wrote:
im fucking trashed to bits. the keg was successful. many people turned out. and we got drunk in the least likely of scenarios. thank you all ofr your help again

<3 LS


WHO CAN SPOT THE DRUNKEN TYPING ERROR?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24700 Posts
May 09 2007 03:20 GMT
#45
On May 09 2007 06:43 Ceril wrote:
This question is akin to "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?", no?


Not really, this question can be pretty realistically modeled. The tootsie pop is much more difficult/complicated I think.

When I first started reading the thread things like the diffusion equation started popping into my head, and I was starting to decide whether or not to suggest doing a trial run with Newton's Law of Cooling beforehand, before I realized,

IT'S A F****** KEG.

and lost interest.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
May 09 2007 03:25 GMT
#46
On May 09 2007 12:17 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2007 23:58 lil.sis wrote:
im fucking trashed to bits. the keg was successful. many people turned out. and we got drunk in the least likely of scenarios. thank you all ofr your help again

<3 LS


WHO CAN SPOT THE DRUNKEN TYPING ERROR?


LS --> TL
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 09 2007 03:30 GMT
#47
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
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#48
you're the one holding the guy's right leg (ie the one with the light blue sweatshirt)
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Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-09 03:40:40
May 09 2007 03:39 GMT
#49
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-09 03:40:34
May 09 2007 03:40 GMT
#50
hes the guy doing the keg stand
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 09 2007 04:06 GMT
#51
i'm going to miss college T_T
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May 09 2007 04:10 GMT
#52
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