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jamesHaed
Profile Joined December 2017
3 Posts
December 25 2017 20:38 GMT
#1
The Federal Communications Commission decision on Thursday to kill net neutrality rules that provide for equal access online to all types of content will likely reshape the multibillion dollar porn industry in the coming years.

It’s hard to overstate just how much porn is consumed online. Last year, Pornhub viewers alone watched over 91 billion videos and there were a total of 44,000 visits to the site per hour.

But now that internet service providers will be able to control what users can access and charge a range of prices based on the type of content, that could change.

Pornhub and similar sites have been vocal about fighting against the repeal of net neutrality.

“Without [net neutrality], the cable and wireless companies that control internet access will have unfair power to pick winners and losers in the market,” Corey Price, vice president of Pornhub, told Motherboard.

The changes will impact anyone’s ability to watch porn and to upload their own pornographic content.

Alex Hawkins, a spokesperson for xHamster, told Life Site News the repeal would favor the promotion online of a “heteronormative version of sexuality.”

Ending net neutrality will align the U.S. market with more conservative regimes across the world, not just in terms of porn, but also ideas about sexuality, Hawkins said.

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Although it’s unlikely that porn would ever disappear entirely, it may cost more. Several states, including South Dakota, Virginia and Utah, have declared porn a “public health crisis.”

Despite the FCC’s 3-2 vote, several states are planning to file lawsuits to reinstate net neutrality rules and some Democrats in the U.S. Senate have vowed to do so as well.

Source: FoxNews

Guess it's back to torrents for me, if this happens :p
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 25 2017 21:49 GMT
#2
On December 26 2017 05:38 jamesHaed wrote:
Source: FoxNews


Seems legit.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
December 25 2017 22:40 GMT
#3
Time for Pornhub to start lobbying
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
December 25 2017 23:00 GMT
#4
I don't understand why this is specificially bad for the porn industry.
I understand that the providers can limit the access to certain content and charge money but why should they specificially limit the access to porn websites?
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RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
December 26 2017 04:44 GMT
#5
I'm opposed to the recent ruling, but a reduction in the porn epidemic is one of the few side effects I would be 100% on board with.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-26 18:06:07
December 26 2017 17:45 GMT
#6
On December 26 2017 08:00 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't understand why this is specificially bad for the porn industry.
I understand that the providers can limit the access to certain content and charge money but why should they specificially limit the access to porn websites?


Because they take up a lot of bandwith and are hard to sell advertisements on would be my guess. It's also a type of content that they can't/won't/don't produce so they can't take over.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 27 2017 05:33 GMT
#7
On December 26 2017 08:00 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't understand why this is specificially bad for the porn industry.
I understand that the providers can limit the access to certain content and charge money but why should they specificially limit the access to porn websites?


I can think of a few reasons.

1.) It's high bandwidth. In fact, it's #1 for bandwidth use and it's not even close.
2.) It's a very spread out industry, so while if they come together porn sites may have more power than say, netflix - they won't otherwise.
3.) It will be easier for ISPs to garner support for a move against porn sites, and there will be less outspoken opposition.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 27 2017 06:38 GMT
#8
Did this happen to you or anyone else before 2015? I never had problems with anything on the internet before 2015 (for those who aren't aware that is when Net Neutrality became a thing).

So I wouldn't worry about this at all. Or do stress about it, nothing is going to change.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-27 11:02:20
December 27 2017 11:01 GMT
#9
On December 27 2017 15:38 blade55555 wrote:
Did this happen to you or anyone else before 2015? I never had problems with anything on the internet before 2015 (for those who aren't aware that is when Net Neutrality became a thing).

So I wouldn't worry about this at all. Or do stress about it, nothing is going to change.


Stop trying make the "Net Neutrality is only 2 years old" argument a thing. It's not a thing. It's not even the truth.
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Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
December 27 2017 11:05 GMT
#10
On December 27 2017 15:38 blade55555 wrote:
Did this happen to you or anyone else before 2015? I never had problems with anything on the internet before 2015 (for those who aren't aware that is when Net Neutrality became a thing).

So I wouldn't worry about this at all. Or do stress about it, nothing is going to change.


Is that the pro-Trump propaganda? Net neutrality is a thing since the "net" exists (and by net I don't mean www, so probably older than you), 2015 was just the year some people in your country decided to protect et neutrality against greedy ISPs and the like from your country.
A3th3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
United States319 Posts
January 01 2018 22:04 GMT
#11
I guess the real problem here is that porn is (somewhat) gross & people don't want to go on record stating that they are defending porno users because of the association it has with geeky guys without jobs
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 02 2018 00:00 GMT
#12
I have 0 problems with porn pretty much disappearing. An absolute cancer on society.
DarkSpearTriant
Profile Joined January 2018
6 Posts
January 09 2018 09:02 GMT
#13
oh no, now the porn sites will have to pay their fair share for the amount of broadband they use. Net neutrality was nothing but corporate welfare for the big companies.
garrett87
Profile Joined January 2018
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-30 22:14:30
January 30 2018 22:05 GMT
#14
I personally think that it is bullshit, xhamster, xvideos, inaporn, they are just few in the sea of such sites and, as for me personally, I think that this net neutrality is only an attempt to scare small sites...
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 08 2018 02:19 GMT
#15
This is really dumb because as we all know you cannot regulate the internet and they will always find other ways or alternatives.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 08 2018 04:27 GMT
#16
I think you guys heavily underestimate how much regulation can do. I think if a country brought in new regulations that said no porn, I think within a couple years, online porn watching would be down 95%.

That said, I don't think porn will be very quick to go, there's lots of websites that have porn on them, so it'd be difficult to try and segregate them all, and even if they did, an ISP listing their plan add-ons and having adult entertainment seems a tad unlikely to me. Probably will screw with the competition in the market and some sights winning out and some losing, but at the end of the day, I'm pretty flexible on which website I'd use myself, given it has the genre I'm looking for.
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Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
February 08 2018 05:28 GMT
#17
I have no sympathy for corporate monopolies. That includes Pornhub, Xhamster, Google and Facebook. So I'm not going to shed any tears if this hurts giant porn sites in the short term. However, as the saying goes, you don't want to throw the baby (which in this case would be the open, unthrottled internet enforced by net neutrality) out with the bathwater, so these corporations will have to be our unlikely allies in this legislative battle. Even if this battle is lost, the long term war will be the funding of broadband co-operatives and municipally-provided broadband to fight against Verizon, Comcast, AT&T, and Charter. Only co-ops and municipal internet can put an end to this constant threat of corporations turning the internet into an overpriced Cable TV 2.0.
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
February 08 2018 06:47 GMT
#18
You can take my freedoms, but don't you dare take my porn.
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
February 08 2018 08:13 GMT
#19
On December 27 2017 15:38 blade55555 wrote:
Did this happen to you or anyone else before 2015? I never had problems with anything on the internet before 2015 (for those who aren't aware that is when Net Neutrality became a thing).

So I wouldn't worry about this at all. Or do stress about it, nothing is going to change.


You mean like how Comcast previously have throttled Bittorent and Netflix?

https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-formally-rules-comcasts-throttling-of-bittorrent-was-illegal/

https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/graph-shows-netflix-speeds-changed-comcast-deal-comcast-roundup/


Or how network companies are atm positioning their technology to take advantage of it, the moment people are bored of hearing of it and media loses focus of it?

https://www.digitaltrends.com/web/verizon-wireless-throttling-video-traffic/
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 08 2018 10:01 GMT
#20
On February 08 2018 14:28 Lazare1969 wrote:
I have no sympathy for corporate monopolies. That includes Pornhub, Xhamster, Google and Facebook. So I'm not going to shed any tears if this hurts giant porn sites in the short term. However, as the saying goes, you don't want to throw the baby (which in this case would be the open, unthrottled internet enforced by net neutrality) out with the bathwater, so these corporations will have to be our unlikely allies in this legislative battle. Even if this battle is lost, the long term war will be the funding of broadband co-operatives and municipally-provided broadband to fight against Verizon, Comcast, AT&T, and Charter. Only co-ops and municipal internet can put an end to this constant threat of corporations turning the internet into an overpriced Cable TV 2.0.

as much as i agree, i feel like porn sites are pretty benevolent in their functions.. even if you adblock the hell out of their websites, 99% of the content is still free/available/high bandwidth etc etc. they also don't heavily regulate content uploaded on their sites unless it's illegal stuff (unlike something like youtube, which while completely understandable from a legal perspective is pretty draconian in application). wasn't there even a push to start putting gaming content on pornhub over youtube?? it's probably just a difference in economies of scale such that when pornhub gets to youtube's size the same rules will apply, but at the moment pornhub doesn't actively screw its viewers or content creators

also, to the people saying that porn is too spread out to lobby, aren't all of the tube and hub sites owned by the same holding company? they're just different in URL, i think they're all managed by the same people though.
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alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
February 08 2018 11:32 GMT
#21
i think most of you here are missing the big point of why net neutrality is a thing. it isnt about big corps or your porn consumption but rather that your isp will become obliged! to open and check every single packet of data you send and recieve. That for now this practise will be limited to evaluating your content in the context of some sort of data tax is not what is bothersome about it. But your loss of privacy is. You are literally agreeing to having the entirety of your communication monitored, logged and filed away to be freely used by whatever corporate or governmental entity chooses to do so. so while you are at it you should redirect your actual post letters to your local buro to be sighted and checked before you open em. hell i bet you could even make an arguement for it.... anyone know the statistical relevance of packet bombs?
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
February 08 2018 11:38 GMT
#22
On December 26 2017 07:40 Emnjay808 wrote:
Time for Pornhub to start lobbying


I wonder how "exactly" they are going to do that.
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alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
February 08 2018 11:43 GMT
#23
considering the bandwith volume porn sites use on the internet im sure they will find a way... and still lose. then what? who dies next? wikipedia? last i checked their income was barely sufficient to pay for their own servers. i wonder what they are going to pay bandwith taxes with.
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