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Les derniers survivants du Bataclan sont évacués hébétés, selon un de nos journalistes sur place.
Last survivors in the bataclan ecacuated.
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On November 14 2015 08:59 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:57 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 Kipsate wrote:On November 14 2015 08:55 m4ini wrote:Sky News: Two attackers killed in the raid, called it "successful". skynews showing where the police is
Raid is over. if u kill 2 terrorist and save a bunch of people damn right thats succesfull. Let's see how many civilians are dead before we call it successful, shall we? Less than before the Raid entered GIGN only discharged their weapons 5 times before, right?
Googling it, I think that's GSG-9 (the German guys).
From 1972 to 2003 they reportedly completed over 1,500 missions,[1] discharging their weapons on only five occasions.
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On November 14 2015 06:29 Eskendereya wrote:
Bombs are going off. Sounds like Muslim terrorism.
Bombs and multiple shootings. This appears to be clearly a planned terrorist attack.
Seriously?
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United States43617 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:59 Thetwinmasters wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:34 KwarK wrote:
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And neither is every Syrian. Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." Are you actually this dense?
It's a member of a group I share no kinship with arguing that people like me should fuck themselves trying to unfuck people like him while at the same time arguing that fucking yourself to unfuck others is wrong and bad.
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On November 14 2015 08:58 Verniy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:57 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 Kipsate wrote:On November 14 2015 08:55 m4ini wrote:Sky News: Two attackers killed in the raid, called it "successful". skynews showing where the police is
Raid is over. if u kill 2 terrorist and save a bunch of people damn right thats succesfull. Let's see how many civilians are dead before we call it successful, shall we? Less than before the Raid entered unfortunately we don't have the technology to un-kill people yet
technically we can try the forbidden arts of human transmutation
we can probably use in-vitro fertilized zygotes for the soul part (up to 48 hours old that is)
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Netherlands45349 Posts
can u 2 take it to pm and talk bout northern Irish there.
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On November 14 2015 09:02 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:59 Thetwinmasters wrote:On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:
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Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." Are you actually this dense? It's a member of a group I share no kinship with arguing that people like me should fuck themselves trying to unfuck people like him while at the same time arguing that fucking yourself to unfuck others is wrong and bad.
ur concept of kinship isnt applicable here. end of.
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On November 14 2015 09:02 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:59 Thetwinmasters wrote:On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:
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Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." Are you actually this dense? It's a member of a group I share no kinship with arguing that people like me should fuck themselves trying to unfuck people like him while at the same time arguing that fucking yourself to unfuck others is wrong and bad.
FFS you are a fucking moderator and you are so offtopic it's unbelievable.
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Looks like some terrorists are still on the run
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On November 14 2015 09:01 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:58 Djzapz wrote:On November 14 2015 08:58 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:57 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 Kipsate wrote:On November 14 2015 08:55 m4ini wrote:Sky News: Two attackers killed in the raid, called it "successful". skynews showing where the police is
Raid is over. if u kill 2 terrorist and save a bunch of people damn right thats succesfull. Let's see how many civilians are dead before we call it successful, shall we? Less than before the Raid entered Do you mean "more than before"? Because otherwise i can't make sense of that sentence. Probably means that some people who would've been dead if they hadn't raided it are now alive. That certainly is true, but not necessarily "success". What i initially meant anyway, is to emphasize the "successful" part of the news, because to me that indicates that it was not bloody. In terms of civilians. I would agree that it suggests a lesser degree of bloodiness, but I interpreted it as 'the threats have been neutralised' firstly. It's really hard to get a good picture of bloodiness so soon after i think.
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United States43617 Posts
On November 14 2015 09:01 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:34 KwarK wrote:
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And neither is every Syrian. Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." except the northern irish aren't "others", the northern irish are us. what part of this is so hard to comprehend? you're saying the british government protecting its own people was an act of generosity and kindness????
You're no more "us" to me than any other man. But that's okay because you and your people still deserved protection at the price of terrorism. As do all humans.
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On November 14 2015 09:02 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:59 Thetwinmasters wrote:On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:
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Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." Are you actually this dense? It's a member of a group I share no kinship with arguing that people like me should fuck themselves trying to unfuck people like him while at the same time arguing that fucking yourself to unfuck others is wrong and bad.
Can you please just stop talking in this thread everybody would greatly appreciate it.
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On November 14 2015 09:02 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:59 Thetwinmasters wrote:On November 14 2015 08:58 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:52 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:47 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 08:45 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:43 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:40 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:
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Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall. My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA. Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing. how can u compare the british defending its citizens on its soverign soil to europe letting in refugees? Quite easily. As I said, I feel no kinship with you just because we share a passport. Nor do I have any special relationship with the soil you stand on just because it's north of the border with the Republic of Ireland. Soil is soil. Blood is blood. And you saying that is a failure. You share more than soil with him, you share institution, history. Those people that did it didn't feel any kind of kinship with the people they killed too btw. I'm not saying I feel no kinship with other humans, I'm saying that the kinship I have with other humans doesn't depend upon what colour their passport is. I'm as far away from those terrorists as you can get. The terrorists are very much into the "kill everyone not like us" mindset. The people I'm arguing with in this topic are in the "fuck everyone not exactly like us, focus on us" mindset. I'm arguing for "most people are basically the same, kill those terrorist cunts, help the people who aren't". nope. it's "make sure we don't fuck ourselves trying to unfuck others" "Unless the others are Northern Irish. Do whatever it takes to help the Northern Irish." Are you actually this dense? It's a member of a group I share no kinship with arguing that people like me should fuck themselves trying to unfuck people like him while at the same time arguing that fucking yourself to unfuck others is wrong and bad.
PM please
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On November 14 2015 09:02 _vk_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:59 zeo wrote:On November 14 2015 08:57 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:56 Kipsate wrote:On November 14 2015 08:55 m4ini wrote:Sky News: Two attackers killed in the raid, called it "successful". skynews showing where the police is
Raid is over. if u kill 2 terrorist and save a bunch of people damn right thats succesfull. Let's see how many civilians are dead before we call it successful, shall we? Less than before the Raid entered GIGN only discharged their weapons 5 times before, right? Googling it, I think that's GSG-9 (the German guys). Show nested quote +From 1972 to 2003 they reportedly completed over 1,500 missions,[1] discharging their weapons on only five occasions.
Oh, can't remember where I read that, might have been Counter-Strike. Thanks
Apparently they caught one alive and he says he is a part of ISIS
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Kwark your philosophy has heart but no reality, no body. A society, whatever the scale, does not live on thought and goodwill, but on interactions and interdependancy.
Apparently I will not work tomorrow, they closed all the public space in the area.
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Dozens dead at bataclan no official count yet
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MrHoon
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oh my god take it to pm guys jesus christ
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On November 14 2015 08:44 Nebuchad wrote:
Why is there so much refugee talk in this thread?
because people are bigots who don't have any real idea what they are talking about
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Massacre inside the bataclan. Probably hundreds of killed. At least several dozen.
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