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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
October 20 2015 00:15 GMT
#401
Damn 32-0-0 now wow.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 20 2015 00:15 GMT
#402
Holy shit now all of Atlantic Canada is supposed to go to the Liberals. All of it.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
October 20 2015 00:15 GMT
#403
Its most likely a liberal minority. A majority would be quite a big stretch from the polling numbers, and would require a vast youth voter turnout.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2015 00:15 GMT
#404
Liberals with 65% of the popular vote so far... Did not realize they were THAT popular there. Man, someone please treat this like an LR thread, so I can read updates.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#405
On October 20 2015 09:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Liberals with 65% of the popular vote so far... Did not realize they were THAT popular there. Man, someone please treat this like an LR thread, so I can read updates.

I will try to though it looks like a few people are. I'm glued to the CBC coverage so I'll post updates sporadically I suppose.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9490 Posts
October 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#406
this is hilarious
i wonder if peter mckay would have gotten his seat if he was running
© Current year.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#407
32-0-0 wow it's a red tide.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#408
On October 20 2015 09:15 Tephus wrote:
Its most likely a liberal minority. A majority would be quite a big stretch from the polling numbers, and would require a vast youth voter turnout.


Wrong.

As I stated a couple pages ago, since 1988, all majorities have been 36.5-43% of the popular vote. Polls here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_in_the_Canadian_federal_election,_2015

Indicate a 37% popular vote for the liberals. I think a majority happening is somewhere in the 50-60% range.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:21:42
October 20 2015 00:19 GMT
#409
Kind of a bad system though, here in Alberta, the Liberals had 9% of the popular vote in the last election, and they'll be in power... Too bad that there is so much discrepancy within Canada.

edit: Seeing current results, this is good if you're a conservative though, there are so many wasted Liberal votes in the east.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
October 20 2015 00:19 GMT
#410
Damn, I'm going to be really bummed out if Megan Leslie loses her seat. She's great, and I was really hoping she'd be the next NDP leader after Mulcair :/
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 20 2015 00:26 GMT
#411
On October 20 2015 09:04 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 08:28 Djzapz wrote:
On October 20 2015 08:12 Rebs wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 20 2015 07:34 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 07:32 Falling wrote:
On October 20 2015 05:30 Djzapz wrote:
This is a bit off topic but heh, I've got you Canadian folks here.

On another forum, someone said:
When it comes to Quebec and separation, the REST of Canada should be voting whether the ######s get to STAY.


How many people feel like that? It makes me sad... It's as if people think Quebec has wanted to separate in a vacuum and it's completely uncalled for.

I am a staunch federalist and would not wish to see Quebec separated. Although I voted Conservative in the last election, I was happy to see Quebec vote for a federalist party then, and to me it didn't matter which federalist party. I want Quebec to want to be in Canada, and I am very much against the sort of comment that you quoted.

That's good to hear. I wonder though, do you feel that that's representative of most of Canada?


I think thats unlikely, most non french speakers who are based in Quebec eventually leave. Either they are there for a temporary work related gig or go in to try their luck because the city is appealing but really just muddle around till they leave. Most not all but you can go look up the resident databases and you will see what Im talking about..

As an immigrant to Quebec initially I had experienced a very limited pool in which you could operate in a white collar capacity and none when it comes to blue collar. The reality is that there is a fair amount of truth to the "perception" that you are talking about and I will be honest with you, the rest of the country is in many small and large ways easier to work with. This is the general opinion of people I work for.. work with and hang out with and Im sorry to say mine too. This isnt an indictment on any person particularly but there is a vibe there that is undeniable.

Its not a hate so much as "leave them be and lets avoid dealing with them if possible" because concerted efforts to make nice and play with Quebecers generally get met with cold responses (even at the corporate level which is really quite silly). There is a defensive streak that is really off putting to anyone trying to work with them.

Just this last Saturday there was a thing my friend talked about you can see in the spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +
A friend of mine working for GM has to allocate inventory across the country based on sales. If something doesnt sell somewhere he can have it moved so that the location is unburdened and still gets the credit for the sale (albiet in a different category for performance metrics) and every time he has to get something moved from Quebec because its not meeting KPI's he gets complaints that hes stealing their business. Everyone else is over the moon since they are relieved of loss leaders. And the hilarious thing is its to everyone benefit. But no. late replies, no responses to phone calls and general douchery. And this is just one example. And this is the nicest guy you can imagine im talking about here, hes been to Montreal like 3 times, loves to visit with his wife, but dealing with people hes just fed up off will obviously make his impression somewhat negative.


Quebec is not the rich province it was and could have been because if its insular behavior (to the benefit of other cities primarily Toronto) and that reflects the will of its people imo. Im sure you feel differently, but the perceptions aren't based on the fact that the rest of Canada doesn't like you because the rest of Canada regardless of where I have been is great to people and extremely open to diversity. But everyone has a bit of a limit.


Ive lived on the east and west coast in the US for the last decade before moving to Canada, so I have alot of experiences to compare it too and Quebec is sadly very low on the list of places and its not because of the language and Im the kind of person who tries to put a positive opinion on everything. The list of positives for Quebec are somewhat limited sadly.

Well that's disheartening.


Like I said its not an indictment against anyone in particular and I love the province (to visit) but having anything else to do with it makes everyone I know alot more apprehensive. Which is unfortunate but thats how it is. I know atleast 50 mcgill grads close friends, friends of friends etc etc, all of them love Montreal and a grand total of 0 still live in Quebec. That should give you an idea.

I won't blame you for giving me your opinion in a civil manner. It makes me a bit sad that this is the image that's projected.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23019 Posts
October 20 2015 00:27 GMT
#412
On October 20 2015 09:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Liberals with 65% of the popular vote so far... Did not realize they were THAT popular there. Man, someone please treat this like an LR thread, so I can read updates.


Yes this ^

Sounds like it's going somewhat unexpectedly so far, curious if that continues.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 20 2015 00:29 GMT
#413
On October 20 2015 09:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 09:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Liberals with 65% of the popular vote so far... Did not realize they were THAT popular there. Man, someone please treat this like an LR thread, so I can read updates.


Yes this ^

Sounds like it's going somewhat unexpectedly so far, curious if that continues.


Yeah, I'm very excited, the conservatives got the late game in this election, it's fun to watch.

Anyway, I'm heading out for an hour or so. I'm enjoying watching that one blue dot on the east (TOBIQUE-MACTAQUAC), seeing whether conservatives can secure one seat there. Every single seat will be a big deal this time around imo.

In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 01:20:17
October 20 2015 00:30 GMT
#414
On October 20 2015 09:19 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Damn, I'm going to be really bummed out if Megan Leslie loses her seat. She's great, and I was really hoping she'd be the next NDP leader after Mulcair :/


i hope they keep Mulcair .however, my commie-socialist-pal who is a long-time NDP volunteer says the sentiment is that he is way too right wing.

looks like this puppy might before before we get to Winnipeg

On October 20 2015 09:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 09:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Liberals with 65% of the popular vote so far... Did not realize they were THAT popular there. Man, someone please treat this like an LR thread, so I can read updates.


Yes this ^

Sounds like it's going somewhat unexpectedly so far, curious if that continues.


the minute i saw the first Hurricane Hazel ad i expected it.
the Liberals ran a really nice campaign.

they were winning on points in the late rounds and then Hurricane Hazel was their knockout punch.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:35:04
October 20 2015 00:32 GMT
#415
There was one Atlantic riding that held a Conservative lead for about 10 minutes, only to let it slip away. Jeez the Cons can't catch a break over there.

Ok it's back. Ok nope.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9490 Posts
October 20 2015 00:32 GMT
#416
On October 20 2015 09:19 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Damn, I'm going to be really bummed out if Megan Leslie loses her seat. She's great, and I was really hoping she'd be the next NDP leader after Mulcair :/

bam
ctv saying shes done
© Current year.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:45:34
October 20 2015 00:44 GMT
#417
On October 20 2015 09:32 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 09:19 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Damn, I'm going to be really bummed out if Megan Leslie loses her seat. She's great, and I was really hoping she'd be the next NDP leader after Mulcair :/

bam
ctv saying shes done


Well that actually sucks. I grew up in Halifax, and have interacted with her. She's great, she's a genuinely ethical person who entered politics with a strong reputation as a community organizer/activist, she built her support base naturally by being awesome working at the Dalhousie Legal Aid clinic. She was a strong, ethical female leader in Canadian politics, and parliament is worse off without her.

Her losing her seat makes tonight bittersweet, as I am still stoked to see Harper go. But I am really sad to see her go, as well.
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:45:22
October 20 2015 00:45 GMT
#418
Double post
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
October 20 2015 00:46 GMT
#419
NDP have lost all their atlantic seats.. yikes.. quebec starting to report.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:54:12
October 20 2015 00:53 GMT
#420
Jays lead 3-1
and hte Liberals lead 32-0

that is 4 touchdowns... 1 field goal .. and a single point on a missed 47 yard fg attempt!
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