On October 19 2011 20:49 beg wrote: the prejudice thread taught me to keep silent about my habits, haha. really good to know that people still have sticks in their asses. really really good to know!
Oh man i was coming here to say exacly that... Indeed sad but luckily i have alot of friends who count to the 5% ^^
Same here, I always figured I'd never need to hold back however since people who can't handle someone doing something in his/her free time what he/she wants isn't worth any hassle.
I've met the nicest people around the globe sharing some weed.
edit: and if i want to have non-stop reefer parties in my free time that's my damn problem!
I guess it's within everyone's rights to have prejudice against drug users but I sure am surprised at the poll numbers.
There's an obvious stigma for using drugs but I don't think a lot of people who voted on that poll know people that use drugs often. Just a result of being raised with an anti-drug attitude imo.
On October 19 2011 21:37 youngminii wrote: I guess it's within everyone's rights to have prejudice against drug users but I sure am surprised at the poll numbers.
There's an obvious stigma for using drugs but I don't think a lot of people who voted on that poll know people that use drugs often. Just a result of being raised with an anti-drug attitude imo.
Just like how christian homes hate gay people.
Man, i stayed sober and jumped on the ladder to do some serious stomping. went like 1-5 and the 1 was a four gate pvp on tal'darim. Smoking up now fuck that.
On October 19 2011 21:03 Wrongspeedy wrote: I've always thought Acid > Shrooms, but unless you know who is making your acid, you don't really know what your taking : (, which I'm not a fan of. I've done shrooms only twice and acid only 3 times though.
Shrooms were a bit more laid back, more psychological. Acid was a bit more intense and visual, but like I said you don't really know what your getting. LSD-25 Thats the good stuff. I haven't done anything like that in 2-3 years. They change the way you see things for life though.
I agree completely. Haven't done either in years. Only tried LSD maybe 3 times and i loved every single second of it. Shrooms are great but i didn't like them as much.
On October 19 2011 21:37 youngminii wrote: I guess it's within everyone's rights to have prejudice against drug users but I sure am surprised at the poll numbers.
There's an obvious stigma for using drugs but I don't think a lot of people who voted on that poll know people that use drugs often. Just a result of being raised with an anti-drug attitude imo.
Just surprised nerds aren't smarter. I mean they are gamers.. Most conservative ppl consider being a gamer as bad as taking drugs. Both prejudice are old fashioned and stupid. Guess the world isn't so keen on kicking old habits. At least not as much as i thought they would be. i blame religion.
Fuck I smoke up and do a myriad of other things, but the attitude / lack of safety knowledge from just the average drug user, apparent from weed/shroom/k/lsd/etc. experience reports in this thread fucking scares me.
Just a quick example:
On June 21 2009 15:12 Mastermind wrote: I did ketamine twice, once by accident. Not pleasant shit, and I would never do it again. The second time I was told I was doing e, which i love, but it was ketamine instead(how the fuck do you mix up your e and your k?). Its the only time I have ever wanted to go to the hospital while on drugs. I think I might of overdosed. I was paralyzed on the ground puking. It was not fun. I will be sticking to fun drugs from now on(weed, uppers and real psychedelics).
This guy was fucking stupid and lucky to have survived, or he made up his whole experience. I'm not even going to talk about how he was wrong to trust his friend, but a common oral dose of ketamine is ~300mg (2mg/lb), while for ecstasy it's only ~80mg. So if he took only 80mg of K thinking it was E, he would have barely felt it as the threshold for light effects on K starts at ~60mg. Now, if he took 300mg of K thinking it was E, then he was idiotic to not check the weight measurements as 300mg of E is definitely well into the overdose territory and he probably would have died taking that much. I'm ruling out the possibility of tainted K, because from his post he seemed to be the only one hospitalized.
Anyone who ingests completely unregulated substances into their bodies should be much more safety cautious; have a drug purity/composition testing kit, have a scale that's accurate to at least +/- 1mg, test potential allergic / negative interactions with a new drug (almost all drugs don't work or work inefficiently in a small proportion of the population, for example I can't breakdown codeine effectively so while my friends would ride soft opiate clouds I would be puking and damaging my body if I took similar amounts), and set up a strict schedule of different things on rotation to keep down the tolerance and minimize harmful effects
Meh, I should write a guide on "safe" and effective (cheaper too) drug use.
Please please please all my fellow stoners and psychonauts, if you want to learn about mushrooms, acid or DMT, PLEASE go listen to a few hours of Terrence McKenna talk about his experiences and obtain some of his wisdom.
He was the most knowledgeable person I have ever heard speak on the subject.
Also, in order of "intensity" DMT is first, shrooms are second and LSD is third.
If you had a "harder trip" on acid than you did on shrooms than the only reason is a mixture of two things.
1. High dose. You want to take about 5 to 7 grams of mushrooms (around a quarter) 2. Location and setup. Mushrooms are a very very VERY strange and tricky drug. The only way I would EVER take them is in a group of less than 5 people in a closed environment. Outside can be a closed environment as long as you are VERY far from public places and people (like a campsite out in the middle of fucking nowhere)
The way recommended by McKenna is silent darkness. This is due to the overwhelming aspect of the trip you are about to take, and the lack of light makes visuals much more focused pronounced and vivid.
ALL OF YOU WHO WISH TO TAKE MUSHROOMS!!!!!!! Listen to this series of video's.
The end of the third and the fourth video are mostly QnA.
The information in these videos is the BEST possible information for ANYBODY that is interested in any psychedelics .
On October 20 2011 02:06 HardMacro wrote: Fuck I smoke up and do a myriad of other things, but the attitude / lack of safety knowledge from just the average drug user, apparent from weed/shroom/k/lsd/etc. experience reports in this thread fucking scares me.
On June 21 2009 15:12 Mastermind wrote: I did ketamine twice, once by accident. Not pleasant shit, and I would never do it again. The second time I was told I was doing e, which i love, but it was ketamine instead(how the fuck do you mix up your e and your k?). Its the only time I have ever wanted to go to the hospital while on drugs. I think I might of overdosed. I was paralyzed on the ground puking. It was not fun. I will be sticking to fun drugs from now on(weed, uppers and real psychedelics).
This guy was fucking stupid and lucky to have survived, or he made up his whole experience. I'm not even going to talk about how he was wrong to trust his friend, but a common oral dose of ketamine is ~300mg (2mg/lb), while for ecstasy it's only ~80mg. So if he took only 80mg of K thinking it was E, he would have barely felt it as the threshold for light effects on K starts at ~60mg. Now, if he took 300mg of K thinking it was E, then he was idiotic to not check the weight measurements as 300mg of E is definitely well into the overdose territory and he probably would have died taking that much. I'm ruling out the possibility of tainted K, because from his post he seemed to be the only one hospitalized.
Anyone who ingests completely unregulated substances into their bodies should be much more safety cautious; have a drug purity/composition testing kit, have a scale that's accurate to at least +/- 1mg, test potential allergic / negative interactions with a new drug (almost all drugs don't work or work inefficiently in a small proportion of the population, for example I can't breakdown codeine effectively so while my friends would ride soft opiate clouds I would be puking and damaging my body if I took similar amounts), and set up a strict schedule of different things on rotation to keep down the tolerance and minimize harmful effects
Meh, I should write a guide on "safe" and effective (cheaper too) drug use.
I was always told that you shouldn't ingest K because it fucks your liver up.
On October 19 2011 21:37 youngminii wrote: I guess it's within everyone's rights to have prejudice against drug users but I sure am surprised at the poll numbers.
There's an obvious stigma for using drugs but I don't think a lot of people who voted on that poll know people that use drugs often. Just a result of being raised with an anti-drug attitude imo.
I didn't expect the results to be that bad, because I see gamers and drug users as a more similar group then most of TL does apparently. We are both victims of prejudice for our hobbies from people who don't know much about them, and I think in both cases the cause of the prejudice is from ignorance of the subject.
I guess we all probably have some prejudices like that without even realising that it's unfair on the person, because our prejudice is a widely held view.
Destressing after MLG Orlando. That was easily the best weekend of my life. I love how happy everyone surround E-sports is. After a weekend of watching some of the best starcraft ever and smoking everyday I realized that I have some serious self-improvements to make in my life. Now it's time to jam out and do a little high ladder session.
On October 19 2011 21:03 Wrongspeedy wrote: I've always thought Acid > Shrooms, but unless you know who is making your acid, you don't really know what your taking : (, which I'm not a fan of. I've done shrooms only twice and acid only 3 times though.
Shrooms were a bit more laid back, more psychological. Acid was a bit more intense and visual, but like I said you don't really know what your getting. LSD-25 Thats the good stuff. I haven't done anything like that in 2-3 years. They change the way you see things for life though.
That's what's so awesome about acid. It takes such little quantity to be potent that the ''don't know what i'm taking'' thing is a myth. There is only a limited amount of things that can fit on blotter papers or gel cubes, and be powerful enough for you to feel anything. LSD 25 and weaker derivates, DOB (and DOC, DOI etc etc), 5-meo-amt and that's about it. Keep in mind that DOB is very rare, and nobody would sell it as acid, as it's worth more. Theoratically, salvinorin-A would be powerful enough to put an active dose on blotter paper, but I believe salvia in its herb form is powerful enough for the average person.
It's true that you can get the weaker derivates that I've talked about, but really, you'd put ammonia on a 10x10 sheet of blotter paper, and I doubt you'd feel anything after consumption. Drugs that are sold in powder/pill forms is a whole other story though. That's where the danger really is, and knowing who you're dealing with becomes important.
EDIT: if your concern is about liquid LSD, and not blotter/gel cubes, then you have very very very good connections and probably know a lot about the drug market and that post was useless.
EDIT2: overall, most psychadelics are safe, and have little to no risks of overdose (you'd have to be rich to buy enough acid to kill somebody). They generally have a lower addiction threshold than even marijuana, create a tolerance that does not allow you to use them all the time, and give you a very unique experience. Psychadelics are just so much better in every aspect to the average street drugs, like dissociatives, opiates and stimulants. Little fun fact: dissociatives are the hardest drugs on the body. You know all the propaganda you heard about drugs ''frying your brain''? Well only dissociatives (PCP, Ketamine, DXM, nitrous oxyde) and to a lesser extent stimulants (hello caffeine) go as far as that. DXM, by the way, is actively sold in cough syrup. Oh, and nitrous oxyde is still used legally in the US, to make people pass out at the dentist.
Alcohol is not officially considered a dissociative, but shares so much similarities to them, it's scary that is is legal and so widely consumed. Basically, once you reach a certain level of drunk, alcohol will do the same thing to you as any dissociative: feeling of being invincible, not feeling any pain, and eventually, you reach the actual ''dissociated'' state (or a blackout). So basically, an intense LSD trip is less harmful than an intense alcohol trip.
I guess this ended up being longer than I though it would... well tl;dr -> people don't know shit about drugs, and people that drink alcohol and have prejudices against ''illegal drugs'' are the most ignorant of all.
I was always told that you shouldn't ingest K because it fucks your liver up.
Sorry for the double post, but felt like correcting that one here. No matter if you shoot, smoke, ingest, snort or plug something, it always ends in your blood. The method is irrelevant, your liver can't tell the difference.
It is however true that pills are slightly tougher on your digestive system, no matter what's in it. Shooting acetaminophen straight to your veins would be ''healthier'' on your guts than taking a tylenol
Guys, it's so fucked it's like I can't even tell tmie any more it's liike eveything is in slwoe motion an di'M slowingly fading awya... Man back, I just coughed my fucking slungs out cuz i'm an idiot who forgot to put water in his bong and took the dry hit...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
LUNGSSSSSSSSS ON FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Holy fuck I just took asip from my slurpee cup whic h is actullay filled with piss cuz i was too lazy and too high this morning and fuck it's nasty shit, wtf why am i posting this on TL i sshud go writh my mouth buf fuckk brb
On October 20 2011 10:09 HardMacro wrote: Holy fuck I just took asip from my slurpee cup whic h is actullay filled with piss cuz i was too lazy and too high this morning and fuck it's nasty shit, wtf why am i posting this on TL i sshud go writh my mouth buf fuckk brb
On October 20 2011 13:18 N3rV[Green] wrote: Reporting in, with an idea to pose to you all.
What if civilizations as advanced as the Egyptians or even more so as far back as 10,000 BC?
What would that do to the current time line of human history?
Just thinking about the possibility makes my mind a very entertaining place.
I think it would move us up like 8000 years or whatever it was. Thinking how far we have come in the last 100 years... wowowow. Think we might be immortal by then having genetically enhanced ourselves to such a high point. Or we could have wiped ourselves out in a war. The future seems wide open!
Not really haha, I feel like it's going to get to the point where we've consumed the worlds resources and economies have completely collapsed before we find a way to colonize other worlds. Because without that ability, we're gonna have a pretty unavoidable end where we're living to be 130 and any resource ends up incredibly expensive.
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