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aCePikNik
Profile Joined May 2011
United States69 Posts
August 31 2011 21:20 GMT
#11601
lol. Reading these last few pages makes me laugh, so much flaming and rage. Its the high tread people, roll it up, smoke it up, chill. Enough rage and hate IMO. I just ran out like four days ago, and have no urge to go kill for more. Everyone is different, but to say or believe that a study was done that says weed has withdrawals, that's retarded. I am going to resupply because I like the feeling, not because OMFG I MUST HAVE IT I HAVE TO BE HIGH. It's not like that, never has been and never will be.
<3 Sheth <3
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 31 2011 21:22 GMT
#11602
On September 01 2011 06:20 aCePikNik wrote:
lol. Reading these last few pages makes me laugh, so much flaming and rage. Its the high tread people, roll it up, smoke it up, chill. Enough rage and hate IMO. I just ran out like four days ago, and have no urge to go kill for more. Everyone is different, but to say or believe that a study was done that says weed has withdrawals, that's retarded. I am going to resupply because I like the feeling, not because OMFG I MUST HAVE IT I HAVE TO BE HIGH. It's not like that, never has been and never will be.

So you're saying you don't believe the study exists? lol....
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
August 31 2011 21:26 GMT
#11603
Well I think that at this point, everything to be said has already been said. It's just up to everyone else to draw their own conclusions from the discussion. Nobody seems like they are really going to change their opinions at this point, to be honest. Just let it go
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 31 2011 21:27 GMT
#11604
On September 01 2011 06:26 Valentine wrote:
Well I think that at this point, everything to be said has already been said. It's just up to everyone else to draw their own conclusions from the discussion. Nobody seems like they are really going to change their opinions at this point, to be honest. Just let it go


Yeah and people are all different, just because you do not experience withdraw (maybe denial too btw), doesn't mean that others don't.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#11605
well, just saying:

beer > weed
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Orangu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada198 Posts
August 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#11606
On August 31 2011 12:32 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:29 tab420 wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:21 Voltaire wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:10 waffleduck wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:59 Valentine wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:56 puppykiller wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:49 Valentine wrote:
Lol I really don't get why everyone is getting upset.. I was fairly certain that it was common knowledge that a chronic smoker [lol] will suffer some minor physical withdrawal symptoms [insomnia] after stopping use.
On August 31 2011 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:44 Valentine wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:43 howerpower wrote:
[quote]

actually it's not

Good argument. Looks like I've been bested here.

do you smoke or are you just here to criticize everyone and ruin the thread

And yes, I do smoke and use quite a few different drugs as well.
On August 31 2011 11:48 waffleduck wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:29 Valentine wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:06 waffleduck wrote:
Debatable

Not really.

Ever take a break from smoking after 1+ year of regular use? The most common issue is insomnia, and most people experience lethargy/depression as well as other problems. Of course it's nothing like a coke addiction or anything like that, but claiming that it has no physical withdrawal symptoms is kind of silly.

They probably started using regularly to combat insomnia/depression/lethargy and when they stop using it come back. whoa

Not everybody starts smoking to alleviate issues like that. I'm actually not trying to be a dick but I don't understand why all of you just got so upset lol.


If you say somthing the tinyest negative about weed.. expect an overreaction. truth is most stoners dont actually enjoy smoking and just pretend to.

I just kind of expected some people on TL to not automatically assume that someone stating that weed has physical withdrawal symptoms to not immediately gang up and assume I'm a fucking radical trying to ruin their lives.

Just because I'm not talking like an omg420BRO doesn't mean that I don't love weed or belong to the smoking community. I expected the high thread to be a little more relaxed, you know, because you're all high?

I think its more the fact that what you said is WRONG more than in offended anyone bro.


So you are claiming he is wrong that you can get addicted to weed? So the withdrawal I go through if I don't smoke for 12+ hours is imaginary? It's not that hard to deal with if you're kept busy, but if you aren't, it can be.

Here are some withdrawal symptoms I experienced after I stopped cold turkey for about two weeks after smoking at least a gram a day every day for 5 months:

Stomach tightness and aching
Complete loss of appetite
Restlessness
Insomnia
Inability to relax
Constant tapping, pacing, other compulsive movements
Depression/Anxiety

These symptoms began the night I ran out and peaked about 36 hours in. After that they weakened slowly over the next 4-5 days, and after that only the loss of appetite remained (one meal a day -_-)

Anyone who has smoked daily long term knows how silly it is to say it's impossible to get addicted. It's usually not a very strong addiction compared to other things alcohol, tobacco, hard drugs, but it's still an addiction.


the addiction is all in your head though ive stopped before and have expereinced restlessness and insomnia also but thats because i sat here doing nothing but thinking about getting high its all in your head if you went for a walk you would sleep because your getting your mind of it and your actually doing something instead of sitting there looking at your bong thinking about weed and how awesome it is the same thing would happen to me if i sat here thinking about playing sc2. sc2 is addicting but its not physical


Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you could read peoples minds and know what they are going through. Just because you didn't experience something proves jack fucking shit. There are so many variables. The fact is it exists.


If it is all in your head how do you know that its not all in your head ? and if there are so many variables how do you know that its a fact? It is actually really hard to specifically pin down a withdrawal symptom as psychological or physical, especially with weed since as far as i know they don't fully understand all the affects of THC. Also there is really little difference between the two, your brain really is just chemicals and electrical signals anyway. Personally i think the difference between physical and mental addiction is more degree of severity than anything else, if you can will power/distract yourself from feeling the addiction then its a mental addiction, if you can't then its physical. Weed i can distract myself from wanting so i consider it a mental addiction, ciggerettes, doesn't matter how much i try and distract myself the desire for a cigg will pop back into my head.
THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!
gboytazz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States73 Posts
August 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#11607
omg im so happy today !!!!! ive been dry for awhile now and im finally get 1/4th
tab420
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada42 Posts
August 31 2011 21:36 GMT
#11608
On September 01 2011 06:34 gboytazz wrote:
omg im so happy today !!!!! ive been dry for awhile now and im finally get 1/4th

sick man thats always a good feeling
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 31 2011 21:36 GMT
#11609
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
August 31 2011 21:38 GMT
#11610
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 31 2011 21:43 GMT
#11611
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


LSD > Both

Although LSD + weed is definitely my favorite combo, good god i miss weed right now =(

(trying to get a new job, on a month break so far)
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 21:47:06
August 31 2011 21:44 GMT
#11612
On September 01 2011 06:38 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.


Yeah, i didn't mean it like that. Definitely don't do both like a mad man, or you'll end up doing what you just said!

One or two beers while/after smoking a spliff or joint is just fantastic. Don't over do it - instead, ENJOY it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 21:55:00
August 31 2011 21:54 GMT
#11613
On September 01 2011 06:44 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:38 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.


Yeah, i didn't mean it like that. Definitely don't do both like a mad man, or you'll end up doing what you just said!

One or two beers while/after smoking a spliff or joint is just fantastic. Don't over do it - instead, ENJOY it.

I remember being a wee lad and not really understanding how potent the two can be, and being at a party (after several rounds of beer pong) and took a huge bong rip, then did a beer bong before exhaling the smoke. Felt so good.. for about 15 minutes. Then shit got bad lol.

But as you said, 1-2 beers and a few hits gives a pretty nice feeling
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
August 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#11614
Oh my god, TL is full of junkies :O
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 22:02:16
August 31 2011 22:02 GMT
#11615
On September 01 2011 06:54 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:44 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:38 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.


Yeah, i didn't mean it like that. Definitely don't do both like a mad man, or you'll end up doing what you just said!

One or two beers while/after smoking a spliff or joint is just fantastic. Don't over do it - instead, ENJOY it.

I remember being a wee lad and not really understanding how potent the two can be, and being at a party (after several rounds of beer pong) and took a huge bong rip, then did a beer bong before exhaling the smoke. Felt so good.. for about 15 minutes. Then shit got bad lol.

But as you said, 1-2 beers and a few hits gives a pretty nice feeling


Yeah. Pretty much every friend of mine who smokes at least once a week, mixes weed + alcohol pretty "heavily". I have done it couple times too and it's not even enjoyable and i don't understand why people do it, lol.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 31 2011 22:04 GMT
#11616
Mmmmmmmmmmmm Ganja and some Jinro24 Mohitos. Nom nom nom. I don't ever drink heavily though, usually just a few drinks. Or like 1-2 bottles of Sake or Sochu if its a special occasion.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
SnetteL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium473 Posts
August 31 2011 22:04 GMT
#11617
On September 01 2011 07:02 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:54 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:44 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:38 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.


Yeah, i didn't mean it like that. Definitely don't do both like a mad man, or you'll end up doing what you just said!

One or two beers while/after smoking a spliff or joint is just fantastic. Don't over do it - instead, ENJOY it.

I remember being a wee lad and not really understanding how potent the two can be, and being at a party (after several rounds of beer pong) and took a huge bong rip, then did a beer bong before exhaling the smoke. Felt so good.. for about 15 minutes. Then shit got bad lol.

But as you said, 1-2 beers and a few hits gives a pretty nice feeling


Yeah. Pretty much every friend of mine who smokes at least once a week, mixes weed + alcohol pretty "heavily". I have done it couple times too and it's not even enjoyable and i don't understand why people do it, lol.


To me it's a huge difference in which order. It's 1) alcohol 2) weed. Maybe a few drinks after but definitely not a lot.

I like it a lot, it gets me more active than by just smoking, it's probably in my head so don't read anything scientific into it .
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 31 2011 22:07 GMT
#11618
On September 01 2011 07:04 SnetteL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 07:02 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:54 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:44 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:38 Valentine wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:36 Grettin wrote:
On September 01 2011 06:30 Fatze wrote:
well, just saying:

beer > weed


Combine those both. It's worth it.

@__________@ But not too much. It's so easy to overdo a cross-fade and just end up dizzy and puking lol.


Yeah, i didn't mean it like that. Definitely don't do both like a mad man, or you'll end up doing what you just said!

One or two beers while/after smoking a spliff or joint is just fantastic. Don't over do it - instead, ENJOY it.

I remember being a wee lad and not really understanding how potent the two can be, and being at a party (after several rounds of beer pong) and took a huge bong rip, then did a beer bong before exhaling the smoke. Felt so good.. for about 15 minutes. Then shit got bad lol.

But as you said, 1-2 beers and a few hits gives a pretty nice feeling


Yeah. Pretty much every friend of mine who smokes at least once a week, mixes weed + alcohol pretty "heavily". I have done it couple times too and it's not even enjoyable and i don't understand why people do it, lol.


To me it's a huge difference in which order. It's 1) alcohol 2) weed. Maybe a few drinks after but definitely not a lot.

I like it a lot, it gets me more active than by just smoking, it's probably in my head so don't read anything scientific into it .

It's completely opposite for me, if I smoke after drinking a lot, I'm going to end up with the spins and puking. Smoking before or with a lower amount of alcohol does me just fine although.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
August 31 2011 22:08 GMT
#11619
On September 01 2011 06:56 ArnaudF wrote:
Oh my god, TL is full of junkies :O


Keep on being judgemental.

I wonder what percentage of the world drinks alcohol, a far more damaging, dangerous, and unforgiving drug than marijuana... yet those of us that choose to enjoy the safer, healthier, and more enjoyable drug get labeled as "junkies," akin to someone smoking meth at 4am in a back alley to get their fix that they're hopelessly addicted to.

Keep on sippin on your propaganda buddy
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
August 31 2011 22:13 GMT
#11620
On September 01 2011 07:08 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:56 ArnaudF wrote:
Oh my god, TL is full of junkies :O


Keep on being judgemental.

I wonder what percentage of the world drinks alcohol, a far more damaging, dangerous, and unforgiving drug than marijuana... yet those of us that choose to enjoy the safer, healthier, and more enjoyable drug get labeled as "junkies," akin to someone smoking meth at 4am in a back alley to get their fix that they're hopelessly addicted to.

Keep on sippin on your propaganda buddy


Keep on keepin' on orb :D
=O
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