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On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything  Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice.
I don't think the police intended to make these informations public. I guess it's some kind of leak.
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I hope they capture or kill these guys quickly before they murder anyone else.
Western society needs to stop worrying about offending sensibilities and take a strong and non-compromising stand against violence caused by ideology. If you think believing in a star and crescent symbol, or a cross symbol, or a hammer and sickle symbol, or a swastika symbol, or whatever symbol, gives you license to massacre people then you need to be disabused of that notion in the strongest (non-violent) terms possible.
Regardless of whether it offends other people who believe in that same symbol.
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On January 08 2015 05:16 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice. yeah i agree, how can these names be public? That can only help those 3 guys...
Maybe they want help the population to get them ?
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On January 08 2015 05:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:16 Faefae wrote:On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice. yeah i agree, how can these names be public? That can only help those 3 guys... Maybe they want help the population to get them ?
I can't remember a time where names being public prior to apprehension ended well.
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They should get caught soon then. At least, I hope so.
18 years old...
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Are automatic weapons very accessible in France?
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On January 08 2015 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Are automatic weapons very accessible in France?
Nop.
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On January 08 2015 05:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:16 Faefae wrote:On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice. yeah i agree, how can these names be public? That can only help those 3 guys... Maybe they want help the population to get them ?
There is no benefit for the police or government to have the people take them. There's a risk of them dieing in the process. Knowing their names are now known might also make them kill more people or hide even better.
It's probably another case of the media being stupid and preferring a couple of bucks and hyping stuff up.
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On January 08 2015 05:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:16 Faefae wrote:On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice. yeah i agree, how can these names be public? That can only help those 3 guys... Maybe they want help the population to get them ?
Exactly. You can look at this couple ways. Either they want more information about them or they just want to let people know that they haven't vanished. Big country like France should have the means to capture couple terrorists on their soil, especially after an attack like this. I'd be worried myself if it took them longer than this to identify/inform about the attackers.
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On January 08 2015 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Are automatic weapons very accessible in France?
Guns are not accessible at all in France. Automatics are especially rare. In urban crisis, at best we see people shotting once or twice with non lethal bullets in it.
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On January 08 2015 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Are automatic weapons very accessible in France?
not in france specifically, mostly all of them comes from the kosovo war or something like that where a huge supply of automatic weapons disappeared from a warehouse
you add to this that in the european union you have no more control border, it became way easier to import those kind of weapon
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On January 08 2015 05:21 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:20 WhiteDog wrote:On January 08 2015 05:16 Faefae wrote:On January 08 2015 05:15 ZeromuS wrote:On January 08 2015 05:13 Faefae wrote:This is insane... how can you become this ? You have to be brainwashed, but they are not super young... The 18 year old is super young. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was 16-18 and I look back now and shake my head. In the end the right people can make someone impressionable do almost anything Also, I can understand why they would make the names public if they want public aid to get these people, but it being public is also super dangerous. What if they are with people and they see their names are public? Can't end well. Also, how did they get these names? If they are wrong at all someone might lose their lives to vigilante justice. yeah i agree, how can these names be public? That can only help those 3 guys... Maybe they want help the population to get them ? I can't remember a time where names being public prior to apprehension ended well.
too be fair though I assume its hard to do a full search throughout the country and keep the names secret. maybe this just makes it easier so the police don't have to worry about descretion. plus as stated otherplaces this could be a leak.
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So where the hell could you get access to Kalashnikovs?
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On January 08 2015 05:23 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Are automatic weapons very accessible in France? Guns are not accessible at all in France. Automatics are especially rare. In urban crisis, at best we see people shotting once or twice with non lethal bullets in it.
BUT everyone know that if you go to the suburbs you can buy AK 47 for 700€
They come from eastern europe, Balkans War essentially
A lot of criminals use it to kill themselves
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On January 08 2015 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So where the hell could you get access to Kalashnikovs?
You can illegaly buy weapons in some suburbs if you have contacts.
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On January 08 2015 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So where the hell could you get access to Kalashnikovs?
refer to my previous post
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On January 08 2015 05:20 DeepElemBlues wrote:
I hope they capture or kill these guys quickly before they murder anyone else.
This has been the case of Merah, another terrorist acting alone around 2 years ago iirc. He then became a martyr, a hero of radical islamism. So yeah i'd say no, I hope they are captured alive and judged as they should be. It's not Ben Laden's or Saddam Hussein's or Kadhafi's fucking execution.
As of the potential other victims I'm not too concerned, their attack was very specifically aimed at the journal.
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On January 08 2015 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So where the hell could you get access to Kalashnikovs?
Black markets where guns are sold in the aftermath of Balkan wars I hear.
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On January 08 2015 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So where the hell could you get access to Kalashnikovs?
I am really late to the party, but is it even established that they used fully automatic AKs? If not, a rather simple to get recreational shooting license allows you to buy a semi-auto AK in France legally.
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