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On December 10 2006 18:02 MarcX wrote: Don't work or already doing it? You've posted your setups and it was very different. The essence is the same. We both would've stacked those towers at the very middle if possible.... We figured that when the monster is comming straight at you from a path the tower can deal the most dmg, and the place in the center can do this sort of rapid firing at the path nxt to it and can reach alot of oher acreas as well. So it's optimum thata way. The other towers are not in the optimum location but since there's no more place in the middle, we had to put them in the second-best place, and that's highly arbitrary.
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What happens if you put them on the black dots?
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Putting them on the corners won't do anything good. You'll probably get around 72~
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I just used the income formula to calculate some total revenue by certain waves. This is all assuming no rounding is occuring, which may not be the case.
... .........income...........8...........total wave....per kill........kills........income 64......87.65625........701.25......22704.6875 65......89.03125........712.25......23416.9375 66......90.40625........723.25......24140.1875 67......91.78125........734.25......24874.4375 68......93.15625........745.25......25619.6875 69......94.53125........756.25......26375.9375 70......95.90625........767.25......27143.1875 ...
According to this, you would have to play the first ~66 levels with only one tower to afford the biggest tower. Also, for every max tower you add you would need to survive for another ~3 waves. This doesn't seem particularly possible.
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On December 10 2006 18:13 patrick321 wrote: I just used the income formula to calculate some total revenue by certain waves. This is all assuming no rounding is occuring, which may not be the case.
... .........income...........8...........total wave....per kill........kills........income 64......87.65625........701.25......22704.6875 65......89.03125........712.25......23416.9375 66......90.40625........723.25......24140.1875 67......91.78125........734.25......24874.4375 68......93.15625........745.25......25619.6875 69......94.53125........756.25......26375.9375 70......95.90625........767.25......27143.1875 ...
According to this, you would have to play the first ~66 levels with only one tower to afford the biggest tower. Also, for every max tower you add you would need to survive for another ~3 waves. This doesn't seem particularly possible.
can you continue the calculation to lvl 80? because that seems to be a treashhold.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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The problem with that is that I have reached wave 70 with 3-5 towers (I can't remember) and had no where near even 10k to spare... idk if I screwed up somehow, but my inclination is that the income per kill is wrong, but I'm not sure.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Anyone bothered to write a build order? :p
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On December 10 2006 18:23 KizZBG wrote: Anyone bothered to write a build order? :p It's not that hard lol... here's my go: 1. Put 1 nature tower at center location next to the first right moving path's end. 2. Keep upgradeing the nature tower 3. When maxed, put other nature on the left of that one 4. Then it's up to you to decide the optimum placing.
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On December 10 2006 18:13 patrick321 wrote: I just used the income formula to calculate some total revenue by certain waves. This is all assuming no rounding is occuring, which may not be the case.
... .........income...........8...........total wave....per kill........kills........income 64......87.65625........701.25......22704.6875 65......89.03125........712.25......23416.9375 66......90.40625........723.25......24140.1875 67......91.78125........734.25......24874.4375 68......93.15625........745.25......25619.6875 69......94.53125........756.25......26375.9375 70......95.90625........767.25......27143.1875 ...
According to this, you would have to play the first ~66 levels with only one tower to afford the biggest tower. Also, for every max tower you add you would need to survive for another ~3 waves. This doesn't seem particularly possible.
But can't you have the lower levels of the flower tower as well?
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Where's the optimal placing for the flower towers? I can get to almost 50 with 1 tower, so I think I might be able to get to 66 with tower + flowers....
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its nearly impossible...
thats WITH stacking 3 max natures...
so with the previous table we have, 66 lvls, +12 for 3 towers = lvl 78..... not going to happen... and those towers were mandatory... this game is not possible to get the last tower..
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On December 10 2006 18:36 bine wrote: Where's the optimal placing for the flower towers? I can get to almost 50 with 1 tower, so I think I might be able to get to 66 with tower + flowers....
i tired with 1 flower tower in the middle ( also spent 20 on storm to start) and went straight for the cannon. I got the 5k upgrade no problem, but it doesnt help much at all;/ Got to lvl 61.
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The real question is where do you place the flower tower for best results. it has stupid particle path that slows down and follows the target; with every upgrade its range decreases by 10. and it damn expensive too.
So far the optimal build ive gotten was placing lone ice by bottom passage and upping it till 80, then green in the middle and just upgrade.
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yes, exactly. where can we put the flower tower to make it less sucky?
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I feel this is the most effective. I erased the later towers out of my original pick. This setup can get into the 50's.
the top green can hit the left row for quite a ways, and gets hits on the right a bit as well. the second stretch it rapes and can easily do 30+ lvls itself.
The flower I feel is optimal because it's range is so small it won't help to try and make it reach more than one straight stretch. This just speeds up the killing process by putting it in the equation earlier. And the weakened enemies from the nature hitting it earlier should die pretty quick to the 15k dmg from the flower.
EDIT: This is just a photoshop'd version of my earlier pic, but this is my setup. I add the middle towers as needed.
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some guy on digg managed lvl 97 by placing nature above the spawn, getting lucky with the dmg % and then getting the 900k flower tower:
some other guy used the hacked version and filled the whole screen with 900k towers, heres where he got to:
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God damnit. Now I have to try that...
EDIT: AHAHAHAHAHAHA, creator is an ass. He made the path extend to the top so people can't beat his score. haha.
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How do you know it's the creator? Maybe this guy just edited the file.
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