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sc-darkness
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
I would be interested if someone knows more about eu gmo laws. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
I eat GMO all the time. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10985 Posts
Afaik allmost all of it is banned due to reasons no one can exactly explain other than saying its somehow unnatural and that gets loads of support. | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On October 24 2017 02:10 Velr wrote: Its mainly green/leftists showing that conversatism isn't a sign of being right wing. Afaik allmost all of it is banned due to reasons no one can exactly explain other than saying its somehow unnatural and that gets loads of support. Please can you provide a citation for something that is specifically banned so we can discuss it. Otherwise we're dealing with generalities/vagaries. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
They are hard to control, spread and interbreed and thereby cause trouble to all the farmers that don't want to use them as well as to natural enviroments. An insect-resistant plant is nice to have if you want to use it for food production, it's a problem for those parts of your eco-system that rely on plants not being resistant. Most of the patents for the plants and the poisons they are resistant against are in the hands of a few big monopolies. If all of your farmers are dependent on Monsanto that is not only a market problem, it's also a political problem because the company is not under local political control. The useage of GMOs encourages the use of certain enviromental poisons, which in itself is not a clever goal. If you forbid those posions the GMOs are often not useful to begin with. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
On October 24 2017 02:02 Deleuze wrote: Please can you cite this supposed ban on GMO foods? I eat GMO all the time. Bulgaria In October 2015, Bulgaria announced it has opted out of growing genetically modified crops, effectively banning the cultivation of different types of GMO corn and soybeans.[57] France On September 17, 2015 the French government announced it would effectively continue to ban GMO crops by enacting an "opt-out" provision, previously agreed to for the 28 EU member states in March 2015, by asking the European Commission for France to extend the GMO ban on nine additional strains of maize. The policy announcement was made simultaneously by the French farm and environment ministries. [65] Germany In August 2015 Germany announced to ban genetically modified crops.[69] Northern Ireland In September 2015, Northern Ireland announced a ban on genetically modified crops.[70] Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering_in_Europe#Import_rules I'm sure better sources could be found. I just can't be bothered.  | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 24 2017 02:27 Plansix wrote: Most of the discussion I hear(in the US) is people who just want more information on GMOs, like ingredients and nutritional information. And the push back to that labeling has sort of created a distrust to GMOs because people don’t like being told “its fine, trust us.” But US food regulations are pretty trash in general, so the distrust is compounded here. No, a big push here is to simply label foods as "GMO", not just "adding labeling info". The concern is that this would create a false red flag to consumers since A "GMO" label means almost nothing. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote: Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision? No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist. It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
On October 24 2017 04:28 MyTHicaL wrote: No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist. It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here. It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On October 24 2017 04:39 sc-darkness wrote: It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home. Learn to respect democracy. Cites the USA and Europe. Hilarious. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
On October 24 2017 04:47 Big J wrote: Learn to respect democracy. Cites the USA and Europe. Hilarious. Europe - little support for GMO USA - Much more support for GMO There you have your comparison. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
On October 24 2017 04:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Why the hostility? What has democracy got to do with it? Are you suggesting Europe doesn't respect democracy? Why are you so interested in his domicile? Because his opinion is pretty anti-democratic. It implies I shouldn't mention the GMO word because it's forbidden in his world. In my opinion, it's a perfectly fine question to ask. E.g. why does this country does it but not that one? Except it's about continents here. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On October 24 2017 04:48 sc-darkness wrote: Europe - little support for GMO USA - Much more support for GMO There you have your comparison. Neither is a democracy. Though Europe at least consists of democratic states but Europe/the EU has no democratic order. The USA is an oligarchy with some democratic processes in its one-party, two-wings system, but hardly any correlation between what the people what and what they get. | ||
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