• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:40
CEST 19:40
KST 02:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"5ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!34Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)103
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
Star Con San Diego 2026 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8015 users

European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 976

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 974 975 976 977 978 1426 Next
Although this thread does not function under the same strict guidelines as the USPMT, it is still a general practice on TL to provide a source with an explanation on why it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion. Failure to do so will result in a mod action.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
October 23 2017 16:50 GMT
#19501
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14164 Posts
October 23 2017 16:54 GMT
#19502
The problem with banning gmos is that it's a rabbit hole that you dont want to go down with how much food is gmo or gmo influenced.

I would be interested if someone knows more about eu gmo laws.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 23 2017 16:58 GMT
#19503
I thought the EU just required labels on proper, DNA altered GMOs? I didn't know it was a full on ban.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
October 23 2017 17:02 GMT
#19504
Please can you cite this supposed ban on GMO foods?

I eat GMO all the time.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 23 2017 17:08 GMT
#19505
I am not sure about the EU, but some countries have already banned Glyphosphate, haven't they? Which may lead to the confusion - the thing is that the main reason why using Glyphosphate (Roundup) is so attractive is that you can manufacture GMO crops that are immune to it, thus getting a really nice shortcut to weedkilling. However while the technology is allowed by GMO, the danger is not in the GM process itself, but in the Roundup use.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10932 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 17:11:13
October 23 2017 17:10 GMT
#19506
Its mainly green/leftists showing that conversatism isn't a sign of being right wing.
Afaik allmost all of it is banned due to reasons no one can exactly explain other than saying its somehow unnatural and that gets loads of support.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
October 23 2017 17:23 GMT
#19507
On October 24 2017 02:10 Velr wrote:
Its mainly green/leftists showing that conversatism isn't a sign of being right wing.
Afaik allmost all of it is banned due to reasons no one can exactly explain other than saying its somehow unnatural and that gets loads of support.


Please can you provide a citation for something that is specifically banned so we can discuss it.

Otherwise we're dealing with generalities/vagaries.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 23 2017 17:27 GMT
#19508
Most of the discussion I hear(in the US) is people who just want more information on GMOs, like ingredients and nutritional information. And the push back to that labeling has sort of created a distrust to GMOs because people don’t like being told “its fine, trust us.” But US food regulations are pretty trash in general, so the distrust is compounded here.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 18:20:28
October 23 2017 17:41 GMT
#19509
There are many smaller and bigger enviromental and economic concerns. Few of the top of my head:
They are hard to control, spread and interbreed and thereby cause trouble to all the farmers that don't want to use them as well as to natural enviroments. An insect-resistant plant is nice to have if you want to use it for food production, it's a problem for those parts of your eco-system that rely on plants not being resistant.
Most of the patents for the plants and the poisons they are resistant against are in the hands of a few big monopolies. If all of your farmers are dependent on Monsanto that is not only a market problem, it's also a political problem because the company is not under local political control.
The useage of GMOs encourages the use of certain enviromental poisons, which in itself is not a clever goal. If you forbid those posions the GMOs are often not useful to begin with.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 18:27:52
October 23 2017 18:27 GMT
#19510
On October 24 2017 02:02 Deleuze wrote:
Please can you cite this supposed ban on GMO foods?

I eat GMO all the time.



Bulgaria
In October 2015, Bulgaria announced it has opted out of growing genetically modified crops, effectively banning the cultivation of different types of GMO corn and soybeans.[57]



France
On September 17, 2015 the French government announced it would effectively continue to ban GMO crops by enacting an "opt-out" provision, previously agreed to for the 28 EU member states in March 2015, by asking the European Commission for France to extend the GMO ban on nine additional strains of maize. The policy announcement was made simultaneously by the French farm and environment ministries. [65]



Germany
In August 2015 Germany announced to ban genetically modified crops.[69]



Northern Ireland
In September 2015, Northern Ireland announced a ban on genetically modified crops.[70]


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering_in_Europe#Import_rules

I'm sure better sources could be found. I just can't be bothered.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 23 2017 18:37 GMT
#19511
On October 24 2017 02:27 Plansix wrote:
Most of the discussion I hear(in the US) is people who just want more information on GMOs, like ingredients and nutritional information. And the push back to that labeling has sort of created a distrust to GMOs because people don’t like being told “its fine, trust us.” But US food regulations are pretty trash in general, so the distrust is compounded here.


No, a big push here is to simply label foods as "GMO", not just "adding labeling info".

The concern is that this would create a false red flag to consumers since A "GMO" label means almost nothing.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
October 23 2017 18:38 GMT
#19512
I suppose it will be like 90%+ of wheat crops in US? :D
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 23 2017 18:48 GMT
#19513
It depends on how someone defines GMO, as stated above. The push for the label in the US reflective to a general distrust of the US food industry and lackluster oversight of the same.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
October 23 2017 19:28 GMT
#19514
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?


No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist.
It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:39:50
October 23 2017 19:39 GMT
#19515
On October 24 2017 04:28 MyTHicaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?


No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist.
It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here.


It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 23 2017 19:47 GMT
#19516
On October 24 2017 04:39 sc-darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 04:28 MyTHicaL wrote:
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?


No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist.
It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here.


It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home.


Learn to respect democracy. Cites the USA and Europe. Hilarious.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:48:58
October 23 2017 19:48 GMT
#19517
On October 24 2017 04:47 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 04:39 sc-darkness wrote:
On October 24 2017 04:28 MyTHicaL wrote:
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?


No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist.
It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here.


It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home.


Learn to respect democracy. Cites the USA and Europe. Hilarious.


Europe - little support for GMO
USA - Much more support for GMO

There you have your comparison.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:49:35
October 23 2017 19:48 GMT
#19518
Why the hostility? What has democracy got to do with it? Are you suggesting Europe doesn't respect democracy? Why are you so interested in his domicile?
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:51:27
October 23 2017 19:50 GMT
#19519
On October 24 2017 04:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Why the hostility? What has democracy got to do with it? Are you suggesting Europe doesn't respect democracy? Why are you so interested in his domicile?


Because his opinion is pretty anti-democratic. It implies I shouldn't mention the GMO word because it's forbidden in his world. In my opinion, it's a perfectly fine question to ask. E.g. why does this country does it but not that one? Except it's about continents here.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 23 2017 19:51 GMT
#19520
On October 24 2017 04:48 sc-darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 04:47 Big J wrote:
On October 24 2017 04:39 sc-darkness wrote:
On October 24 2017 04:28 MyTHicaL wrote:
On October 24 2017 01:50 sc-darkness wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does the EU still ban GMO when some scientists say it's safe? Is it just a political decision?


No offence but I persistantly see you launching these types of topics. Some American scientists state that global warming doesn't exist.
It's banned for a large number of reasons, but from a consumer standpoint- GMO is potentially dangerous in the long term and honestly tastes horrible. I remember it from my days in Canada... I do not want it to come here.


It's a perfectly good question to ask when you have Europe and US as a comparison. Learn to respect democracy or go home.


Learn to respect democracy. Cites the USA and Europe. Hilarious.


Europe - little support for GMO
USA - Much more support for GMO

There you have your comparison.


Neither is a democracy. Though Europe at least consists of democratic states but Europe/the EU has no democratic order. The USA is an oligarchy with some democratic processes in its one-party, two-wings system, but hardly any correlation between what the people what and what they get.
Prev 1 974 975 976 977 978 1426 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#60
RotterdaM734
TaKeTV 351
TKL 289
IndyStarCraft 240
SteadfastSC142
BRAT_OK 95
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 734
ByuN 391
TKL 289
IndyStarCraft 240
SteadfastSC 142
BRAT_OK 95
ProTech74
RushiSC 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 8203
Calm 5097
Mini 399
ggaemo 178
EffOrt 147
Free 61
Hyun 34
Shine 15
Hm[arnc] 15
yabsab 13
[ Show more ]
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5277
qojqva2991
monkeys_forever27
Counter-Strike
x6flipin744
edward46
kRYSTAL_29
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0164
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK4
Other Games
Beastyqt584
ceh9525
uThermal417
elazer170
Hui .146
UpATreeSC110
XaKoH 99
Mew2King62
Trikslyr58
QueenE45
Livibee32
JuggernautJason30
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV44
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 1
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2172
• WagamamaTV431
League of Legends
• Nemesis2597
• TFBlade919
Other Games
• imaqtpie562
• Shiphtur476
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
16h 20m
INu's Battles
17h 20m
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 16h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
Patches Events
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.