EPTI'm confused
are you suggesting fascists are not treated well enough in justice courts?
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VHbb
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I'm confused are you suggesting fascists are not treated well enough in justice courts? | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On February 07 2018 01:02 VHbb wrote: I'm confused are you suggesting fascists are not treated well enough in justice courts? No, I was recalling Mussolini's last moments. He was killed in the streets without any process, like many fascists. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21793 Posts
On February 07 2018 02:55 SoSexy wrote: No, I was recalling Mussolini's last moments. He was killed in the streets without any process, like many fascists. Or because he was a Dicator, who are much more likely to meet violent ends outside of court then 'just' fascists. Also he was supposed to have his day in court like everyone else 2 years before his death when he was arrested after being removed from office. He was freed by the Germans, and was caught by the Italian resistance 2 years later when he tried to flee to Switzerland. Who indeed, executed him. Reads a bit different then 'killed in the streets without any process, like many fascists'. | ||
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farvacola
United States18832 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:09 Gorsameth wrote: Or because he was a Dicator, who are much more likely to meet violent ends outside of court then 'just' fascists. Also he was supposed to have his day in court like everyone else 2 years before his death when he was arrested after being removed from office. He was freed by the Germans, and was caught by the Italian resistance 2 years later when he tried to flee to Switzerland. Who indeed, executed him. Reads a bit different then 'killed in the streets without any process, like many fascists'. He was killed in the streets without process. Don't make a fool of yourself. Why do you feel the need to contrast objective truths just to look edgy? On 25 April he fled Milan, where he had been based, and tried to escape to the Swiss border. He and his mistress, Claretta Petacci, were captured on 27 April by local partisans near the village of Dongo on Lake Como. Mussolini and Petacci were shot the following afternoon, two days before Adolf Hitler's suicide. The bodies of Mussolini and Petacci were taken to Milan and left in a suburban square, the Piazzale Loreto, for a large angry crowd to insult and physically abuse. They were then hung upside down from a metal girder above a service station on the square. Which means that he was shot in the streets without any process. 'or because he was a dictator who are much more likely to meet violent ends' this is just your opinion. Why do you make it sound like it's true? It's not. It's quite the contrary to be honest. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
![[image loading]](https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/graphique/3319895/fig1.png) Life expectancy based on monthly revenue (taken from a demographic study from our national institute of statistics). Up to 13 years of difference between the poorest and the wealthiest men. (Poverty threshold is around 1000 euros. Median income is ~1700 euros. Past ~3000 euros you belong to the 10% richest.) | ||
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Sent.
Poland9214 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10764 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:27 SoSexy wrote: He was killed in the streets without process. Don't make a fool of yourself. Why do you feel the need to contrast objective truths just to look edgy? On 25 April he fled Milan, where he had been based, and tried to escape to the Swiss border. He and his mistress, Claretta Petacci, were captured on 27 April by local partisans near the village of Dongo on Lake Como. Mussolini and Petacci were shot the following afternoon, two days before Adolf Hitler's suicide. The bodies of Mussolini and Petacci were taken to Milan and left in a suburban square, the Piazzale Loreto, for a large angry crowd to insult and physically abuse. They were then hung upside down from a metal girder above a service station on the square. And what is your point? No one denies what happened or said it was good it happened that way (so far). People just don't have big issues with mussolini being treated like he was because he was a real monster. +These were also diffrent times and the worst war in human history just ended (or second worst... Ww1 with the gas takes the cake when it comes to actual battles). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21793 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:32 Sent. wrote: That red line makes your point easy to ignore What do you think the red line disproves? | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Trying to equate devastated, war torn societies taking revenge on their supreme leader who was culprit in countless crooners crimes to a state that hasn't seen war on its land in decades is not far fetched at all. Nope, it's actually rather godawful. Also. Different countries entirely. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:38 Artisreal wrote: Just ignore sosexy? Trying to equate devastated, war torn societies taking revenge on their supreme leader who was culprit in countless crooners crimes to a state that hasn't seen war on its land in decades is not far fetched at all. Nope, it's actually rather godawful. Nah, you need people like me on this forum. Otherwise your collective circlejerking will just make your politically-correct orgasm come way too early User was warned for this post | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21793 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:27 SoSexy wrote: He was killed in the streets without process. Don't make a fool of yourself. Why do you feel the need to contrast objective truths just to look edgy? On 25 April he fled Milan, where he had been based, and tried to escape to the Swiss border. He and his mistress, Claretta Petacci, were captured on 27 April by local partisans near the village of Dongo on Lake Como. Mussolini and Petacci were shot the following afternoon, two days before Adolf Hitler's suicide. The bodies of Mussolini and Petacci were taken to Milan and left in a suburban square, the Piazzale Loreto, for a large angry crowd to insult and physically abuse. They were then hung upside down from a metal girder above a service station on the square. Which means that he was shot in the streets without any process. 'or because he was a dictator who are much more likely to meet violent ends' this is just your opinion. Why do you make it sound like it's true? It's not. It's quite the contrary to be honest. Wow, that is some strawman your pulling there. Try reading my post again, No where did I imply he was not killed without due process, I even concluded it with 'Who indeed executed him' What objective truths did I contrast? I question your statement that he was executed without process because he was a fascist. Which, considering the conversation it was made in implies that if he was a Nazi he would have been taken to court. No, I say he was executed because he was a Dictator. Dictators often find themselves killed without due process. And yes that is my own opinion. Just as much as it is your own opinion that it was because he was a fascist. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:32 Sent. wrote: That red line makes your point easy to ignore Because? It's the same phenomenon with a lower intensity... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:42 SoSexy wrote: Nah, you need people like me on this forum. Otherwise your collective circlejerking will just make your politically-correct orgasm come way too early You bring nothing to the table apart from faux outrage. What is anyone missing if that is left out? | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:46 Artisreal wrote: You bring nothing to the table apart from faux outrage. What is anyone missing if that is left out? Judging by the pools in various european countries, I'd say a 20/30% of the electorate. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:45 Plansix wrote: We do need the insight from someone who misunderstands the French legal system and then complains that the terrorist wasn’t dealt with through mob justice. That is the voice we are missing in these discussions. (It's in Belgium actually.) | ||
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Sent.
Poland9214 Posts
On February 07 2018 03:36 Gorsameth wrote: What do you think the red line disproves? It doesn't disprove anything. I just think most would ignore TheDwf's point and focus on ordinary men living much shorter than the rest of the population. | ||
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