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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 30 2010 19:27 GMT
#121
j4s you are an IDIOT

All the books are fucking amazing.

GET THAT FUCKING DANCE WITH DRAGONS OUT NOW MARTIN
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 30 2010 19:30 GMT
#122
Hot Bid should ban j4s for insulting awesome literature!

jk But GRRM really needs to get the 4th book out. I cannot explain the pain I am going through right now!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
April 30 2010 19:38 GMT
#123
On May 01 2010 04:30 Shiragaku wrote:
Hot Bid should ban j4s for insulting awesome literature!

jk But GRRM really needs to get the 4th book out. I cannot explain the pain I am going through right now!

5th book. 4th is feast for crows

I've only read the books in the last few months (1/2 a year ago?) and I can't wait for ADWD. I can't imagine the people who've been with the series since AGOT came out in 1996.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 30 2010 19:40 GMT
#124
On May 01 2010 04:38 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 04:30 Shiragaku wrote:
Hot Bid should ban j4s for insulting awesome literature!

jk But GRRM really needs to get the 4th book out. I cannot explain the pain I am going through right now!

5th book. 4th is feast for crows

I've only read the books in the last few months (1/2 a year ago?) and I can't wait for ADWD. I can't imagine the people who've been with the series since AGOT came out in 1996.


It fucking BURNS dude.. so bad.

I however was lucky enough to read the dark tower series when they were all out.. I guess there was a like 10 year gap.

that'd suck.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
April 30 2010 19:41 GMT
#125
ham sandwiches, people don't all like the same thing?! what on earth

it's not like i said it was bad, they're just so drawn out apart from the first one
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 30 2010 19:45 GMT
#126
On May 01 2010 04:41 j4s wrote:
ham sandwiches, people don't all like the same thing?! what on earth

it's not like i said it was bad, they're just so drawn out apart from the first one

Well I am most likely going to represent myself with this statement but what I liked about A Song of Ice and Fire was that the characters were so interesting. There was so much depth to them and many of my friends who read the series (most of them thought it was boring) often got the wrong idea about each character. The biggest one was that Cersei is really smart. If he meant that she knew how to talk, he was right on.

But what I really thought was neat was how the series takes place on several parts of the world and how each POV seems completely irrelevant to the other but they slowly come together. That is what was pretty neat.

And my favorite part was the politics. They were so complex compared to other books. You could point out characters that would be doves or hawks in our society and make analogies with the American conservatives or liberals.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:46:32
April 30 2010 19:46 GMT
#127
i'm concerned about book 5. it's taking him so long and giving him so much difficulty that the quality may suffer as a result. It may not be as inspired the other books (btw I consider book 4 inferior to 1-3), and the plot may feel forced/contrived at times.
With lower expectations, that can only help my reading experience. But hopefully i am wrong.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 30 2010 19:46 GMT
#128
Everytime this thread is bumped without either the show or book being released my hopes are crushed.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 30 2010 19:47 GMT
#129
On May 01 2010 04:46 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Everytime this thread is bumped without either the show or book being released my hopes are crushed.

Hey, they said the series would be arriving in 2011.
LightSong
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden7 Posts
April 30 2010 19:48 GMT
#130
A Song of Ice and Fire is not the traditional fantasyepic that I guess alot of us grew up with. If your looking for an overwhelming level of magic and wonderous creatures. Read Harry Potter.
GRRM gives you a great story. As I see it, the three greatest fantasy authors is Tolkien, Jordan and GRRM. These three giants realized that a great story is all about character and most importantly, character growth.

I've read alot of interviews with fantasy/sci fi authors who mention GRRM as a prime example of inspiration. I dont know how to do that quote thingie yet, since I'm a new poster (long time lurker though) but someone said that he kills off characters. A common thread in alot of writers inspired by Eddings for example always lack a certain level of exitement just due to the fact that the main characters always pull through, no matter what.

I think it was Brandon Sanderson who said that GRRM thought him that if you kill of a beloved character. The reader is going to seriously worry the next time a character is in danger.

I can really recommend Brandon Sanderson work for those who havent found it yet.
Elantris, The Mistborn Trilogy and Warbreaker is a fantastic read. Not to mention the fact that Robert Jordans widow chose him to finish the WoT as a relatively new author to the fantasy scene.
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how. - Friedrich Nietzsche
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
April 30 2010 19:54 GMT
#131
On May 01 2010 04:45 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 04:41 j4s wrote:
ham sandwiches, people don't all like the same thing?! what on earth

it's not like i said it was bad, they're just so drawn out apart from the first one

Well I am most likely going to represent myself with this statement but what I liked about A Song of Ice and Fire was that the characters were so interesting. There was so much depth to them and many of my friends who read the series (most of them thought it was boring) often got the wrong idea about each character. The biggest one was that Cersei is really smart. If he meant that she knew how to talk, he was right on.

But what I really thought was neat was how the series takes place on several parts of the world and how each POV seems completely irrelevant to the other but they slowly come together. That is what was pretty neat.

And my favorite part was the politics. They were so complex compared to other books. You could point out characters that would be doves or hawks in our society and make analogies with the American conservatives or liberals.


i agree that the world it is set it is really well constructed. the interwoven plots and politics are pretty expertly constructed. as well as that the parallels to the real world history in the horse people of the free cities being like mongolians, the people of westeros being similar to old age europe.

the main reason i didn't think they were 'amazing' is because of some of the characters (pretty much all the starks for me) were just annoying and their chapter's so boring. snow being such a legolas/drizzt copy paste really annoyed me too, not because of it being a copy paste, just because it felt so generic and 'trying to be cool'.

at the same time, i really loved the parts where arya was traveling around. her character didn't interest me too much, but the exploration she was doing and revealing the world in which the main storyline was happening was pretty cool.
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
July 24 2010 08:53 GMT
#132
As of today we are not only awaiting the 5th book, A Dance with Dragon (who the hell knows when it's coming) and the Television series (coming in Spring 2011) but also (insert dramatic drum solo):

A Game of Thrones: Genesis. An RTS game that is coming in 2011 and that's being developed by Cyanide.

FOCUS HOME INTERACTIVE AND CYANIDE ANNOUNCE "A GAME OF THRONES: GENESIS"

We are very pleased to announce that Focus Home Interactive will publish "A Game of Thrones: Genesis", Cyanide’s new strategy game on PC, adapted from George R.R. Martin's famous series of best-sellers novels "A Song of Ice and Fire".
Today, we reveal the first 2 artworks from this game in which you will have to match your political prowess with your strategic and military skills!

"A Game of Thrones: Genesis" plunges you into the heart of the battles and intrigues between the Families that shaped the Kingdom of Westeros.
However, victory does not necessarily result from brute force. The innovative game mechanics provide players with numerous paths to success: will you opt for a military, economic or diplomatic approach? Trickery, treachery and deceit are widespread and you will constantly have to watch your back if you want to avoid a bitter defeat!

Peacefully or forcefully annex surrounding territories, besiege enemy castles, send spies to infiltrate behind enemy lines, assassinate trouble-making officers or capture them to ask for a ransom... When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground!


For the official announcement and the first art work go click the link:
http://www.focus-home.com/index.php?rub=news&id=100

BTW you all probably already know this but for updates on all projects of George RR Martin visit http://grrm.livejournal.com/ regularly.
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
July 24 2010 09:04 GMT
#133
+ Show Spoiler +
I hope i can make a long ass chain and rip boats to pieces when they come within range.


Sounds great, hope that it actually is great though.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
July 24 2010 09:06 GMT
#134
Blah, it's an RTS. I cannot really appreciate any RTS that's not Blizzard made... I've just grown ignorant like that over the years.

I would have preferred something more with more immersion like an RPG, but I'm still getting pumped for the artwork nonetheless.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
July 24 2010 09:26 GMT
#135
Martin be slacking.... I know he's a genius and all but c'mon. The last book wasn't even complete. People seem to forget that he just left out a bunch of plot and said roll with it b/c he couldn't find a way to finish the book on time. I really missed some of my fav characters in feast.

Hope this book is actually decent and I hope we can go back to a regular format where all the characters appear in every book after this one.(which will prob come out in late 2011)

Waiting 4-5 years to hear what happened to the characters you care about the most is brutal... Hope the RTS is decent but I sincerely doubt it as most RTS games to come out recently have been lame for multi-player. (single-player is fine I guess)
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
July 24 2010 09:32 GMT
#136
On July 24 2010 18:06 minus_human wrote:
Blah, it's an RTS. I cannot really appreciate any RTS that's not Blizzard made... I've just grown ignorant like that over the years.

I would have preferred something more with more immersion like an RPG, but I'm still getting pumped for the artwork nonetheless.


if you read his journal you will note that there is a game of thrones RPG and an RTS in the works
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 24 2010 09:32 GMT
#137
The dwarf is definitely one of the more interesting characters, although I haven't read these since like two years ago. Got really annoying when you liked a character and he killed him off the next chapter, but some of the more boring characters never tend to die..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
July 24 2010 09:34 GMT
#138
God, this topic again. Whenever this gets bumped, I get excited for Dance. Damnit George, I WANT MY 5TH BOOK!
I know where my towel is.
Eiserne
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States340 Posts
July 24 2010 09:38 GMT
#139
Fuck this series. Storm of Swords was awful. Such a sadistic writer. Up until the Red Wedding, the series was fantastic.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 24 2010 09:49 GMT
#140
Every week, I check GRRM's blog to see if there's any updates on Dance of Dragons.

Oh well, at least the TV series is coming along nicely.

I'm glad they made a RTS for this. I'll definitely buy it just to support "A Song of Ice and Fire" and its affiliations. I hope they make an RPG/RTS like Mount&Blade or Morrowind/Oblivion for it - that would be my perfect game
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