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Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
February 17 2012 18:38 GMT
#921
Kills Jon Snow then counts his money all the way to the grave... that really would be the ultimate troll.

I think he'll finish though, he's just put too much painstaking time in himself to quit.

Hopefully he gets them done before he drops dead though, thats my big worry.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
February 17 2012 18:42 GMT
#922
Jon getting "killed" would actually make for a nice loophole to get him out of the nights watch ("Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death."). I could see her reviving him and they run off together on some holy mission. Jon would likely go after Ramsay or look for Arya. Melisandre would follow him around since Stannis is "dead" she would decide Jon is Azor Ahai.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
February 17 2012 18:48 GMT
#923
On February 18 2012 03:38 Flik wrote:
Kills Jon Snow then counts his money all the way to the grave... that really would be the ultimate troll.

I think he'll finish though, he's just put too much painstaking time in himself to quit.

Hopefully he gets them done before he drops dead though, thats my big worry.


I don't know why everyones saying he's gunna take the money and run. People don't become writers as a get rich quick scheme. They do it because they have a passion for it. Also I'm sure there's a lot of pressure from HBO to finish the series.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 01:41:45
March 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#924
A brilliant theory from my mate while we were really high:

Jon is Lyanna's son. Neddy only ever says "you share my blood" and stuff like that. I don't think he's called him a son before. Also, that means he's a targareon which is why Ned never told anybody cause Robert's all like "I'm going to kill all targareons doesn't matter if they're babies"

Also, yes, Jon is Azor Ahai.

Also, anything big happen in book 2? I forgot and now season 2's almost out.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Linkark07
Profile Joined August 2010
37 Posts
March 01 2012 01:55 GMT
#925
A lot of things happen in book 2. My favorite PoV in the second book is Tyrion because he took the role of the King's Hand.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
March 01 2012 03:04 GMT
#926
On March 01 2012 10:55 Linkark07 wrote:
A lot of things happen in book 2. My favorite PoV in the second book is Tyrion because he took the role of the King's Hand.

Holy shit, that's in this book? All of King's landing and Robb declares war? This season is going to be epic.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Asol
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden109 Posts
March 01 2012 03:24 GMT
#927
Tyrion is by far my favourite character throughout the series. Quick wit combined with his sharp senses make for great reading He's rather rough on the edges, and it's so impressive to create a character like him.
Quote what?
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
March 01 2012 09:03 GMT
#928
On March 01 2012 10:40 Lorken wrote:
A brilliant theory from my mate while we were really high:

Jon is Lyanna's son. Neddy only ever says "you share my blood" and stuff like that. I don't think he's called him a son before. Also, that means he's a targareon which is why Ned never told anybody cause Robert's all like "I'm going to kill all targareons doesn't matter if they're babies"

Also, yes, Jon is Azor Ahai.

Also, anything big happen in book 2? I forgot and now season 2's almost out.


Grats, awesome theory. Only thing is you are about 10 years late.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 01 2012 09:06 GMT
#929
Jon had better stay fucking dead.

Raising people from the dead? No. I hope that GRRM won't do something so cheap.


I like Jon, but for the good of the story, he should stay dead.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
March 01 2012 09:10 GMT
#930
On March 01 2012 18:06 zalz wrote:
Jon had better stay fucking dead.

Raising people from the dead? No. I hope that GRRM won't do something so cheap.


I like Jon, but for the good of the story, he should stay dead.


You mean like Catelyn, and Beric Dondarrion????
I am Godzilla You are Japan
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 09:33:53
March 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#931
^ and Brianne and Tyrion and Bran and Rickon. They all had chapters that ended like they might have died.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 10:23:34
March 01 2012 10:23 GMT
#932
There is a difference between 'maybe' dying like Tyrion did, reviving secondary characters and reviving big major main characters.

Catelyn isn't even really revived. Lady Stoneheart doesn't exactly have much in common with Catelyn.

Beric was just a secondary character, almost a parody of the revival of the dead considering how often he did it.


But reviving major characters? This isn't DBZ. They aren't supposed to set out in search of the dragon balls so they can revive everyone at a whim.

Death should have gravitas. We wanted Rob to live, we wanted Eddard to live, tough break, they died. But Jon is the exception? He gets to be revived at the drop of a hat?

It would be pathetic writing. Just writing in a cliff hanger for the sake of writing a cliff hanger.


Look, I wouldn't mind if he warged into Snow at the last moment, go through some gruelling experience to fight his way back to life, and even then at best he ends up in a different body, at the cost of mind-murdering the original occupant of the body. But just getting flat out rezzed by Melisandre? Screw that.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 01 2012 12:28 GMT
#933
Jon is not dead. End of his chapter is not 100% death. He lost conciousness. Brianne lost conciousness at end of her last chapter and then we see she is alive in Book 5. Tyrion lost conciousness and was drowning and going deeper underwater and then he survived in next chapter. Davos was ordered to be killed immediatelly and wasn't.

Jon is only dead once we see the body or it is confirmed by characters we can trust (unlike death of Hound which was never confirmed)
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
March 01 2012 12:34 GMT
#934
Hey guys, I'm little bit confused about this new book release thats been announced (got an email from amazon) it appears to be book 2 of Dance with dragons... but my version of Dance with Dragons isn't a "book 1" as far as I can tell. Did they split the volume up or something? Just wanna know whether I should be buying this new novel or not.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 01 2012 12:55 GMT
#935
There are single volume versions and two part versions of Book 5. You should not buy it if you got a single volume version (it ends with Lannister chapter).
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 01 2012 13:52 GMT
#936
On March 01 2012 21:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Jon is not dead. End of his chapter is not 100% death. He lost conciousness. Brianne lost conciousness at end of her last chapter and then we see she is alive in Book 5. Tyrion lost conciousness and was drowning and going deeper underwater and then he survived in next chapter. Davos was ordered to be killed immediatelly and wasn't.

Jon is only dead once we see the body or it is confirmed by characters we can trust (unlike death of Hound which was never confirmed)


Kind of like the character in Prison Break.

Her head was shipped to the main character in a box.


Later it turned out she was still alive because the main character had been too scared to get a 'good' look at the head, so he didn't notice it wasn't the head of his lover.

Just because you can make it up, doesn't mean its good. I never said I was going to call the FBI and have him arrested for terrible writing. I just said that it would be terrible writing.


Jon surviving all the stabbings would be even more silly than him being revived from the dead.
ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
March 01 2012 17:47 GMT
#937
People survive stabbings all the time.Its plausible and it's what I'm hoping for.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 01 2012 18:05 GMT
#938
On March 01 2012 18:33 -Archangel- wrote:
^ and Brianne and Tyrion and Bran and Rickon. They all had chapters that ended like they might have died.


I thought Brianne was very clear that she didn't die, she cried out that she would do what they wanted of her to save Podrick being hanged next to her
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 19:38:23
March 01 2012 19:38 GMT
#939
He was talking about the chapter where Biter was smashing her head against a rock repeatedly and she got knocked out. I think GRRM made it a little clearer though with Jon, he was stabbed repeatedly and theres no way the Night's Watch would let him get out alive.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 21:05:11
March 01 2012 21:05 GMT
#940
On March 02 2012 04:38 Flik wrote:
He was talking about the chapter where Biter was smashing her head against a rock repeatedly and she got knocked out. I think GRRM made it a little clearer though with Jon, he was stabbed repeatedly and theres no way the Night's Watch would let him get out alive.


Well, you gotta remember that although he was in a pack of Nights Watch brothers, there was a Giant and a bunch of wildings right there too.

And that giant like Jon.

And giants wreck face.
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
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