EPTSettle this Fight Debate - Page 16
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lololol
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
Also, with the "jabbing" potential of the Bat, you greatly reduce your range, plus he can block it with the palm of his other hand as well (and if you jab using two hands, he's practically in knife range) | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
...but now that I think about it, in a fight against someone of my own size I'd rather hold the knife. To hit with a bat powerful enough you need a wide swing, sure, if that hits it's target it's pretty much over, but you'd have to be down or just standing there to get hit like that. And I'd rather take a medium-powerful bat hit in the hand than a knife in my torso. I don't mind a broken arm, but I would totally mind being stabbed. Powerful blows are not as easy as they look. It would be nice to see, but in real life I'd rather take the chance of being hit with a bat rather than being stabbed. I can still run with a broken arm, and I can stab with both hands, but I can't run with my guts on the outside, or swing a bat powerful enough with one hand (unless I'd hit his head or something, but that's rather unlikely). | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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lykk
China38 Posts
there's no need to imagine what happens in this mu, it has happend countless number of times throughout history. in the STONEAGE ppl used wooden clubs (sometimes with a stone head attached making it a mace) as the main weapon, but when the art of bronze making was discovered, ppl were able to make short bronze swords of approx 1 feet long. all over the world, new armies equipped with the swords dominated armies with the old weapons, and won battle after battle. soon enough every army used swords, and human kind entered the BRONZEAGE. (note: although called swords, these early bronze weapons were really just long knives, also bronze is quite soft and bends easily, it's far inferior than morden iron/steel/alloy knives.) so there... no more arguing pls, bat is a much less effective weapon. hitting an moving opponent critically is similar to hitting a sweet shot, imagine your first time playing baseball, was it easy even to hit the ball? and you only get one chance, if you miss it's gg. too many ppl here are influenced by american culture, iconizing the bat as a badass weapon, no one i know in china would choose the bat | ||
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1sd2sd3sd
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BrokenSTi
Canada11 Posts
I've found that it was really difficult to get a clean hit in and if you miss hit its really hard to recover. That was an even fight, now imagine the bat user misses, due to the fact that its harder to hit a guy with a bat either at close range or just offensively, a stab or just starts you to bleeding. The knife is all about the close range, so there is little chance of missing and then in a prolonged fight bleeding drains your energy like fuck. So bat user needs to keep knife user at range and not over commit to a haymaker blow. Constant lighter bludgeoning will win the fight, unless you were to chance the SMash bros super swing and knock his stock right the fuck out. Also note: I'd rather be shot than cut to fuck. That Tommy LEe jones movie hunted i think showed me i dont like getting cut. | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
unless you were to chance the SMash bros super swing and knock his stock right the fuck out. hahaha, PING!!! | ||
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Dexxus
United States329 Posts
On November 29 2006 07:33 pyrogenetix wrote: how does a knife work? a knife is used to cut and slice stuff up. No. If you actually want to kill you will stab with a knife. Personally I would choose a knife, but there are advantages the bat has, and if the user is smart they would use them: First of course is range. If you knife people think is going to be easy to close on a bat-man your wrong. The bat-man (provided they know what they are doing) will be punching and kicking as well. If you close on a bat-man they will punch you once you are inside the range of the bat, or kick you to create distance so you can be batted at again. Also, you can use a bat interchangebly between one and two hands to either stop knife attacks after you close, or add more power with two hands. The problem with blocking is especially elevated if you slash like pyrogenetix suggested. Yet another comes from the fact that it's going to be a lot easier for the bat-man to one hit KO you or break a bone severely than it is for knife guy to close and hit a vital area in the initial phases of the fight. The key to this (and why I would choose knife) is that if you succeed in closing, a stab would permanentally incapacitate an opponent instantly, not to mention the bat becomes near useless once your in close (hence punching and kicking from the bat-man, which in the end isn't effective vs. a knife armed fighter.You'd be better off to drop the bat and fight to disarm the knife guy. | ||
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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statix
United States1760 Posts
On December 06 2006 08:40 AmirOssanloo wrote: Why do you think you all have to use a bat like how they use it in the sport? First of all you dont SWING with a bat in a fight, what are you stupid?!? You use it like a spear...Fast hits like a snake attack. You go for the throath, the nose, the knees. If you now decide to do something else then going for snake attacks. As far as thoes bats I held in my hands, you have a very good grip on the top of the bat, as well as the bottom of it. Just turn it around! Light side towards enemy = a fast weapon. 1, 2, 3 medium light hits, turn it around, and swing it...Geez, Now I practise and compete in martial arts, bat is the choise... The End~~ i can kick your ass like a snake and if you use a bat like a spear its going to get taken away from you...idiot | ||
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Sun
United States551 Posts
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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statix
United States1760 Posts
Statix....Plz tell me how you are going to take my bat from me, WITH ONE HAND? Would you throw away your knife to grab my bat, so I then with the already force I have towards you punch you? Sorry  --- if you cant take a bat when its being used in a stabbing motion you must be a shitty ass martial artist... even a fucking street bum can perry a bat and stab you instantly | ||
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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ToT)Testie(
Canada723 Posts
The knife would win. You would simply have to temper how you move and not be a dumbass while you fight. If he makes a strike the odds of you being able to dodge are much higher than if you make a strike. You could throw your whole body into a quick lunge if one of his strikes miss, and bounce back rather easily. He cannot do the same unless he is using it to jab. Because he's weilding a cumbersome weapon. A man cannot charge you after a mistake in a fight with a bat. Go to your garage, pick up your bat and think of how you would fight with it. With a bat you're much slower unless you're a major leaguer. Which we aren't. I'd choose the knife. The bat could be used well, but the knife can go for the kill within 1 good shot, or 2-3 good ones. Despite the distance advantage, when you rush someone with a knife you can get in there within the bats range if he ever goes for a power swing, taking the brunt of it on your back while you are already in short range and can inflict multiple stab wounds, fast. You could either keep the close range distance, or retreat and wait until he bleeds to death. If someone wacks you hard with a bat, unless it is in the temple, you're probably not going down. | ||
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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venusian.kohai
Canada741 Posts
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