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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 14 2006 12:29 GMT
#1
I was thinking about chess and I began thinking of creating a starcraft chess set. I was thinking 1 could be created for each of the three races.

Be the logic of starcraft, all would have to be ground units with a non-suicide attack (so they have the ability to capture every other piece and remain alive.)

For zerg I was thinking:

Pawn: Zergling
Queen: not sure
King: Kerrigan(or queen if someone thought of a better king)
Knight: lurker (different way of attacking than the other pieces.)
Bishop: hydralisk
Rook: ultralisk


blahblah anyone care to share ideas and zerg/other races.


this thread is dumb, but should be fun.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
November 14 2006 12:31 GMT
#2
its tough because movement and strength in chess is very linear, as in queen is just better than bishop and rook

while in starcraft units have strengths and weaknesses rather than one being just better than the others
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Cbreaker
Profile Joined March 2006
United States476 Posts
November 14 2006 12:32 GMT
#3
Terran:

Pawn: Marine
Queen: Regular Kerrigan
King: Duke (Battlecruiser)
Knight: Raynor (Vulture)
Bishop: Goliath
Rook: Tank
LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
November 14 2006 12:39 GMT
#4
Proto:

pawn: Zealots
rooks: Reavers
Knights: Goons (or DT's)
Bishops: Temps
Queen: Tassadar
King: Zeratul

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Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
November 14 2006 12:39 GMT
#5
Protoss:
Pawn: Probe
Queen: Carrier
King: Arbiter
Knight: Corsair
Bishop: Shuttle
Rook: Archon
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 14 2006 12:39 GMT
#6
On November 14 2006 21:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
its tough because movement and strength in chess is very linear, as in queen is just better than bishop and rook

while in starcraft units have strengths and weaknesses rather than one being just better than the others


chess' piece are very arbitrary in point value. A bishop isn't exactly a warrior compared the slightly less valuable knight. In making a starcraft set its the same way, although there would be some association between piece type's point value and its power in starcraft, they do not have to be directly proportional.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 14 2006 12:40 GMT
#7
On November 14 2006 21:32 Cbreaker wrote:
Terran:

Pawn: Marine
Queen: Regular Kerrigan
King: Duke (Battlecruiser)
Knight: Raynor (Vulture)
Bishop: Goliath
Rook: Tank


siege tank couldn't capture battlecruiser ;ox
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
November 14 2006 12:40 GMT
#8
You also have to pick pieces that can fit on a chess board, and are mostly vertical. Meaning a units like Tanks and Ultralisks probably would not work.

Pawn: Probe
Knight: Zealot
Bishop: Scout
Rook: Dragoon
Queen: Dark Templar
King: High Templar

Protoss heroes don't really look too unique.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-14 12:45:38
November 14 2006 12:44 GMT
#9
Zerg - just changed queen and king
Pawn: Zergling - expendable light infantry
Queen: Kerrigan - all-powerful and female, although Queen unit may be better for consistency
King: Overlord - slow and fat, not very useful, and commands army; or the obvious Cerebrate ;o
Knight: Lurker - attack mechanism, as stated
Bishop: Hydralisk - ranged fire
Rook: Ultralisk - power ground
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
November 14 2006 12:54 GMT
#10
You cannot have air units as pieces unless every unit can kill air.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 14 2006 12:54 GMT
#11
Protoss

Pawn: Zlot (Pretty self explainitory)
Rook: Archon (Protoss power house)
Knight: Templar(One ht one dt) (They're like knight rank i guess)
Bishop: Corsairs (Moves really fast and scouting w/e)
King: Arbitor (The castle move w/ rook is like recall)
Queen: Carrier (Insta win!)

Zerg:
Pawn: Ling!
Rook: Ultralisk
Knight: Hydras
Bishop: Mutalisk
Queen: Zerg queen
King: Overmind

Terran:
Pawn: SCV (marines are range T_T)
Rook: Tankz0rs! (Needless to say, tanks are linear and powerful)
Knight: Goliath (counters carriers ^^)
Bishop: VUlture, look at the movement...
Queen: BC!
King: Floating CC
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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 14 2006 12:55 GMT
#12
They already have Starcraft Chess UMS, I forget what units they use for the pieces, but it works pretty well and is good just for the creative factor.
too easy
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
November 14 2006 12:57 GMT
#13
Hahaha the floating CC for Terran King is awesome.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 14 2006 13:09 GMT
#14
mmm dont want to ruin your idea but im sure to have seen it...

http://www.sclegacy.com/strategy/analysis/daroth_chess.php
http://www.starcraft.org/maps/scums/Singleplayer/Starcraft Chess- Version II

as for parallel id choose:

pawn->main core could be workers from each or zeal-marine-zerling
rook-> siege unit so river- tank- lurker
bishop-> range and mobility so goon-goli-hidra
knight-> no parallel from all knight is the flanking/most mobility dont know really
king/queen some heroes

it would be fun to see a chess program with them maibe with animated battles like that old chess game battle-chess but then units should be in numbers to equiparate battles
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
November 14 2006 13:11 GMT
#15
Protoss:
Pawn: Zealot
Knight: Dark Templar
Bishop: High Templar
Rook: Dragoon
King: Zeratul
Queen: Raszagal...?
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
November 14 2006 13:11 GMT
#16
anyone care to explain how the pieces are gona fly.
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
November 14 2006 13:39 GMT
#17
On November 14 2006 22:11 gameguard wrote:
anyone care to explain how the pieces are gona fly.


Look at the clear base pieces for flying units in Warhammer.


Also: why don't people read the thread before they post something illogical? Vultures can't kill BCs, probes can't kill carriers, etc.
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
November 14 2006 13:46 GMT
#18
their already is a starcraft chess set ><
I'm like, the coolest
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-14 13:48:27
November 14 2006 13:46 GMT
#19
I actually designed a chess set for a friend's software program...

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ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
November 14 2006 13:51 GMT
#20
Pawn: Zergling / Zealot / Marine
Knight: Fenix / Jim Raynor / Hunter Killer
Rook: Dark Templar / Siege tank / Lurker -- Ultralisk
Bishop: High Templar / Goliath / Lurker -- Ultralisk
Queen: Kerrigan
King: The Overmind: // Tassadar or Zeratul.. But Zeratul is faster than Tassadar. So, Tassadar.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-14 14:00:11
November 14 2006 13:58 GMT
#21
Just group by some random categories

P = basic = rine/ling/lot
N = ranged = goliath/hydra/goon
B = flying = wraith/muta/scout
R = big = tank/ultra/archon
Q = flying caster = vessel/queen/arb
K = ground caster = ghost/filer/ht
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
November 14 2006 16:00 GMT
#22
On November 14 2006 22:58 azndsh wrote:
Just group by some random categories

P = basic = rine/ling/lot
N = ranged = goliath/hydra/goon
B = flying = wraith/muta/scout
R = big = tank/ultra/archon
Q = flying caster = vessel/queen/arb
K = ground caster = ghost/filer/ht


How does a tank/ultra/ling/lot kill a vessel/queen/arb/muta/wraith/scout?

...'cause last time I played chess pawns and rooks could kill bishops and queens. Did they change the rules since then?
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
November 14 2006 16:07 GMT
#23
King: Boxer
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-14 16:16:22
November 14 2006 16:12 GMT
#24
On November 15 2006 01:00 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2006 22:58 azndsh wrote:
Just group by some random categories

P = basic = rine/ling/lot
N = ranged = goliath/hydra/goon
B = flying = wraith/muta/scout
R = big = tank/ultra/archon
Q = flying caster = vessel/queen/arb
K = ground caster = ghost/filer/ht


How does a tank/ultra/ling/lot kill a vessel/queen/arb/muta/wraith/scout?

...'cause last time I played chess pawns and rooks could kill bishops and queens. Did they change the rules since then?


yea, they changed it recently

http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101

Article 1: The nature and objectives of the game of chess

1.1 The game of chess is played between two opponents who move their pieces alternately on a square board called a `chessboard`. The player with the white pieces commences the game. A player is said to `have the move`, when his opponent`s move has been made.

1.2 The objective of each player is to place the opponent`s king `under attack` in such a way that the opponent has no legal move. The player who achieves this goal is said to have `checkmated` the opponent`s king and to have won the game. Leaving one`s own king under attack, exposing one`s own king to attack and also `capturing` the opponent`s king are not allowed. The opponent whose king has been checkmated has lost the game.

1.3 It is not allowed to capture the King

1.4 When starcraft units are used in place of chess pieces, the specific atributes of the units are lost.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
November 14 2006 16:19 GMT
#25
On November 15 2006 01:00 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2006 22:58 azndsh wrote:
Just group by some random categories

P = basic = rine/ling/lot
N = ranged = goliath/hydra/goon
B = flying = wraith/muta/scout
R = big = tank/ultra/archon
Q = flying caster = vessel/queen/arb
K = ground caster = ghost/filer/ht


How does a tank/ultra/ling/lot kill a vessel/queen/arb/muta/wraith/scout?

...'cause last time I played chess pawns and rooks could kill bishops and queens. Did they change the rules since then?

LOL!! What the fuck?

Gameguard is right on the nail. Who cares what can capture what?! Jesus.... What a tight-ass...
coolio
Profile Joined February 2006
Finland196 Posts
November 14 2006 20:44 GMT
#26
pawn : zergling
knight : hydra
bishop: lurker
rook: sunken colony
queen : queen?
king : defiler
player : me

BM_Wakka
Profile Joined August 2005
United States71 Posts
November 14 2006 20:58 GMT
#27
The pawns should be drones/probes/scvs because of their weak attacking nature, short range, importance w/ respect to structure, promotional ability, underestimated value, etc.
Tm-Serendipity-
Profile Joined November 2006
Italy2 Posts
November 14 2006 21:25 GMT
#28
man... do it ... and i will buy your chess ! garanteed !
I LOVE OOV :P
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
November 15 2006 03:20 GMT
#29
On November 15 2006 01:19 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2006 01:00 pr0n wrote:
On November 14 2006 22:58 azndsh wrote:
Just group by some random categories

P = basic = rine/ling/lot
N = ranged = goliath/hydra/goon
B = flying = wraith/muta/scout
R = big = tank/ultra/archon
Q = flying caster = vessel/queen/arb
K = ground caster = ghost/filer/ht


How does a tank/ultra/ling/lot kill a vessel/queen/arb/muta/wraith/scout?

...'cause last time I played chess pawns and rooks could kill bishops and queens. Did they change the rules since then?

LOL!! What the fuck?

Gameguard is right on the nail. Who cares what can capture what?! Jesus.... What a
tight-ass...


Just the people who posted in this thread before you. I see since you've been beaten on intelligence, you have to resort to name-calling. How pathetic.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 15 2006 03:45 GMT
#30
Samir Duran should be king of zerg probably, or the overmind eyeball.
Kerrigan, or queen for queen.

Protoss rashzagal for queen and tassadar or zeratul for king.

Raynor is the only true hero among the terran groups, so he would be king.

Queen would have to be uninfested kerrigan.

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 16 2006 01:53 GMT
#31
pawn = pwn = mass carriers?
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