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JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
October 07 2006 05:40 GMT
#1
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/07/nkorea.shotsfired.ap/index.html

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- Gunfire rang out Saturday along the heavily armed no man's land separating the divided Koreas, as regional tensions mounted in anticipation of communist North Korea's plan to test its first atomic bomb.

South Korean soldiers fired 60 shots as a warning after five North Korean soldiers crossed a boundary in the Demilitarized Zone separating the two country's forces, South Korean military officials said.

It was unclear whether the North Korean advance was intended as a provocation, or was rather an attempt to go fishing at a nearby stream, an official at South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said on condition of anonymity, citing official policy.

Four of the North Koreans were unarmed and the fifth carried a rifle, the official said. No one was hurt, and the North Koreans retreated.

While such border skirmishes are not unheard of, they are relatively rare. Saturday's incursion was only the second this year, the official said. The North sometimes orchestrates border skirmishes to jack up tensions at sensitive moments in international standoffs.

Earlier in the day, North Korea's neighbors applauded a U.N. Security Council statement warning the country not to follow through on its threats to test its first nuclear weapon, perhaps as early as Sunday. Japan said it will push for punitive measures if Pyongyang doesn't heed international opinion.

The statement adopted by the council on Friday also called on North Korea to return immediately to talks on scrapping its nuclear weapons program or face unspecified consequences.

South Korea's Foreign Ministry issued a statement Saturday saying it supported the appeal and also urging its isolated, communist neighbor to resume the long-stalled six-nation talks.

"North Korea must clearly recognize that a nuclear test would not help the North itself in any way," South Korea said. "North Korea should be held responsible for any consequences that could be caused by a test."

Stepping up shuttle diplomacy, South Korea's nuclear envoy said he will visit Beijing on Monday for two days of talks with Chinese officials about the nuclear test.

Separately, Japan's Foreign Ministry said it sees a nuclear test by North Korea as "a grave threat to the peace and security of northeast Asia and the world" and welcomed the Security Council statement.

"If North Korea conducts a nuclear weapons test despite the concerns expressed by international society, the Security Council must adopt a resolution outlining severely punitive measures," the ministry said in a statement.

The statement adopted unanimously on Friday expresses "deep concern" over North Korea's announcement Tuesday that it planned a test, a move that would confirm strong suspicions it is a nuclear power.

The warning was read at a formal meeting by the council president, Ambassador Kenzo Oshima of Japan, who indicated that the North could face sanctions or possible military action if it detonates a nuclear device.

The council acted amid speculation that a nuclear test could come on Sunday, the anniversary of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's appointment as head of the Korean Workers' Party in 1997. Japanese Vice Foreign Minister Shotaro Yachi, currently in Washington, told Japan's TV Asahi, "Based on the development so far, it would be best to view that a test is possible this weekend."

With tensions rising, Kim met hundreds of top North Korean top military commanders and urged them to bolster the nation's defenses, as officers cheered, "Fight at the cost of our lives!" the North's official Korean Central News Agency reported Friday.

A North Korea expert in China, the North's closest ally, said only the removal of American economic sanctions against Pyongyang could dissuade the country from carrying out a nuclear test.

"North Korea has already made a decision to carry out a test," said Li Dunqiu, of China's State Council Development Research Center, a Cabinet-level think tank. But "if the U.S. removes sanctions ... then tensions can be eased. Otherwise launching a nuclear test is unavoidable for North Korea."

The United States imposed economic restrictions on North Korea last year to punish it for alleged counterfeiting and money laundering. Since late last year, North Korea has boycotted six-nation talks aimed at dismantling its nuclear ambitions.

North Korea said Tuesday it decided to act in the face of what it claimed was "the U.S. extreme threat of a nuclear war," but gave no date for the test. Washington has repeatedly said it has no intention of invading North Korea.

Both China and Russia have urged the United States and North Korea to hold talks.

But Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton told the council that there would be no North Korean-U.S. talks except in the margins of resumed six-party talks.

Bolton said the Security Council needs to adopt a long-term strategy to deal with North Korea but the top U.S. priority now is to stop a nuclear test.

Oshima, the Japanese U.N. ambassador, had pressed to have the statement adopted before Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe travels to China on Sunday and South Korea on Monday with a message that the North should stop testing.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
October 07 2006 05:45 GMT
#2
Nuclear bombs will result in the destruction of earth. Why on fucking earth do they keep testing and, what would they need it for? USA would just bomb the shit out of anything that would try to launch a nuclear missile anywhere.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
October 07 2006 05:48 GMT
#3
Cus N Korea wants to fire shit at people.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 07 2006 06:00 GMT
#4
China wont save their ass this time.
Rillanon.au
PluS
Profile Joined January 2005
United States80 Posts
October 07 2006 06:01 GMT
#5
usa wont do anything unless they shoot nukes at us ..
and its Called M . A . D
Go Fuck Yourself
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
October 07 2006 06:03 GMT
#6
Fuck

They need to send Boxer in NOW




But yeah, what it NK thinking... I don't see it ending well for the North Korean population, regardless of what path it takes.
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GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
October 07 2006 06:05 GMT
#7
we're all going to die becuase of radical political leaders and fucking nukes.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
October 07 2006 06:09 GMT
#8
On October 07 2006 15:00 haduken wrote:
China wont save their ass this time.

Good. They are the only thing we have to worry about =)
lol j/k
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11603 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-07 06:10:28
October 07 2006 06:10 GMT
#9
I read this, weren't they just going fishing at the local lake or something? If so, whats the big deal?

EDIT: Typo
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
October 07 2006 06:16 GMT
#10
well i don't like the idea of any country having military nukes, it's kind of understandable why a nation like N Korea is doing this. do you think the US of A, or any nation for that matter, would of touched Iraq if it had nukes?

women get raped because they can't defend themselves, but if women carried bazookas around they wouldn't get raped.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
October 07 2006 06:21 GMT
#11
The big deal is that they were going where no one is allowed to go. Also, carrying a weapon. Not allowed, NOPE NOPE NOPE.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44446 Posts
October 07 2006 06:28 GMT
#12
North Korea is a threat to regional stability. And a nuke wouldn't help them. They could probably get no more than 10, their missile system is unreliable and short ranged with ineffective counter measures to avoid being shot down. Worst case scenario is they nuke South Korea (and thus themselves too) or a load of nukes get shot down over the Pacific.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-07 06:34:23
October 07 2006 06:32 GMT
#13
On October 07 2006 15:01 PluS wrote:
usa wont do anything unless they shoot nukes at us ..
and its Called M . A . D


No, it's called Self Assured Destruction. North Korea doesn't have the capacity to reach the US while the US could make the northerrn half of the penninsula into a gigantic crater. China, on the other hand, can retaliate for its ally, so that's a possible argument for MAD. But... despite all the armagedon talk like that, I have a feeling China would really reconsider countering a US strike because Chinese survival > NK survival, even if it does end up compromising its honor and responsibility to its allies. That is my uneducated opinion... if anyone is willing to comment on that, go ahead.

But although the US has no real threat (besides a huge increase in terrorist activity against the US after that show of power in all parts of the world), South Korea would definitely get shafted as 11,000 thousand artillary shells are aimed straight into Seoul...

North Korean leaders are so pissing me off lately. I don't know... they have to come to realize they are being a leech not only for the Korean people, but also on the world. They are holding onto nothing - an inevitable decline from power... and because of this are pulling stunts like this instead of looking toward paths for internal improvement for their people. : /
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
October 07 2006 06:53 GMT
#14
How disgusting
Fucking commies
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-07 07:01:46
October 07 2006 06:59 GMT
#15
[image loading]


the darker orange circle is the range that N korea could fire nukes at. suffice to say, they could fuck up japan (who they have no love for, and who hosts american bases). their probably working on increasing their range (IE the lighter orange circle is a missile they are working on) but for now anyways the main factor nukes play is a deterrence. if iraq had them then the us of A would of never invaded them because saddam could just suicide and take down the entire american invading army with him.

anyways no need to be cocky and say stuff like a nuclear N korea doesnt scurr you
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 07 2006 07:00 GMT
#16
Dude, I'm pretty sure North Korea's beyond communism, its 100% authoritarianism and very few countries are that, with even fewer countries mildly successful (Cuba).

The truth is, China and US aren't exactly best of buddies, and while China is supplying the Dear Leader with all of his fuel sources, China probably won't pull the plug because of the whole "enemy of my enemy is not my enemy" thing, at least in terms of world economic competition.

If NK fucks it self in the ass China probably won't do anything about it either, except if either party tries to reach for the big red button.
Logic is Overrated
teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
October 07 2006 07:13 GMT
#17
Haha soldiers pwnd while going fishing.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 07 2006 07:17 GMT
#18
so far, north korea hasn't being very political smart have they? but then again, as a state, they really have nothing to bargain with other than force.

If NK ends up too crazy then china will have to cut its losses. no need to jump to a war while we still got the taiwan and the whole money problem -____-
Rillanon.au
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
October 07 2006 07:19 GMT
#19
cut the crap.. only political games
no one will start a nuclear war (at least not in the next decades)

They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
rhcp12312
Profile Joined August 2006
United States127 Posts
October 07 2006 07:24 GMT
#20
I see why they would want nukes. Its pretty obvious. The reason they shouldn't is because the entire world is telling them not to. And ignoring the rest of the world is a very arrogant thing to do. That's why NK is going to stay a little bitch country, their leaders are dedicated toward superficial ideas instead of bettering their country.
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