EPTNorth Korea acting a fool(again). - Page 7
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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KwarK
United States44448 Posts
On October 08 2006 21:24 HappyManRun wrote: There are such things as "pride and patrism" I know it's alot of bullshit but it's evident. Imagine the communists(the all so hated commies by you guys) werent' in China, what would it be now? China would still be a weakling in the world, looked down at, militarily weak and has no voice what so ever. Chinese will still be inferior, unable to raise their heads in an international scene, discriminated against... Like mexicans that ppl so fond of poking fun at, say... It is because of the "O so evil" communists could China rose to world power. We now got nukes too, even though we're not aggressive by any means, just because we have nukes makes China a power to reckon with, that confort of knowing China too has the power to blow the fuck out of the earth gives a sense of esteem in many chinese men, because now we are not weaklings anymore, because we can do serious damage. Sounds like crazy logic but that's how it works. It is a pride problem. Now NK is looked down up at, they are weaklings, inferior. Imagine if NK doesn't have nukes, who would listen to them? Nobody. Now, imagine NK with nukes, the NK will have more "voice" in the world, and that's what's the nuke was shooting for - self-esteem. By no means I am suggesting the NK ppl would enjoy this, however, the government will love more esteem in the world. Would ppl dare to seal the boarder between U.S. and Mexico if now suddenly Mexicans have lots of nukes? I think not. Same goes to NK. That kid we used to ignore now has a knife in his hands, we better listen to what he's got to say or he might stab you. Same idea. Sure, the pre Communist Nationalist government was corrupt and self serving. But Mao probably got 70,000,000 people killed through mismanagement. China's booming economy is due to it's recent more liberal economic rules (and it's artificially weak currency). The Nationalist government would have always had a capitalist economy so it is likely the same economic strength would be seen under them, probably greater as China's economic liberalisation is more recent. What any democratic government cannot match is the ability of China to expend it's people for forced industrial projects. There are a lot of news stories about Chinese coal mines collapsing with hundreds dead for example as the state run company does not bother with basic safety precautions. Also, given China's terrible record at staying unified a democratic China would have probably split up. And you can't deny the Commies did well vs Japan. But Chinese economic power happened in spite of Communism, not because of it. And a lot of innocent people starved because of excessive power vested in the hands of Mao who, while a competent guerilla, was not much more. Edit: Just remembered Nationalist China was given a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. You say it would have had no voice, I argue it was already esteemed in 1945 to be amoung the 5 most important countries in the world. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
the corrupt officials needs to be hanged tho, they suck. did you know in China, if you get into any dispute with the government ur case will not enter court at ALL. not even a pretend admission, just like that. pretty fucked up shitz. my cousin's company had a higher bid than some governor's son's company over some development project but they had to chose over him -__- wtf. | ||
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