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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18634 Posts
November 21 2013 12:20 GMT
#1501
On November 21 2013 21:04 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 20:57 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:52 Plexa wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:51 Hryul wrote:
Carlsen got balls of steel to play the pawn b3 on the queen's side. Seems like he is confident in his position despite his inactive knight.

I think he likes the idea of getting his white bishop to f5 which controls the queening square if anand plays f6 met with g6 ... Bf5


I hope that's why he went into the tank to check that fully. He's in time trouble and can't afford another 20m think.


He can think in Anand's time anyway also. That's always something that is a bit disregarded imho


This. I always think if you think too long yourself when playing very risky and aggressive you lose a lot of monumentum since the opponent can use your time to think too.

Anand is losing more and more of his advantage by thinking too long
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 21 2013 12:25 GMT
#1502
On November 21 2013 21:13 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 21:01 Hryul wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:52 Plexa wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:51 Hryul wrote:
Carlsen got balls of steel to play the pawn b3 on the queen's side. Seems like he is confident in his position despite his inactive knight.

I think he likes the idea of getting his white bishop to f5 which controls the queening square if anand plays f6 met with g6 ... Bf5

I like the idea but I can't see it happening in the near future. Two pieces control f5 atm and g6xf5 would open the g line for white.
Edit: assuming a knight/bishop trade beforehand.

Further edit: I don't think white f6 is that good of an idea. the answer g6 limits both the white bishop and knight. I don't see any obvious good fields after f6g6. but maybe Anand shows something smart with it.

Yeah I agree. f6 seems like a scary idea, but it seems to throw any attacking ideas white has away after being met with g6. Nh5 seems like a better idea.

oh boy. just as i say this my liveticker posts an idea after f6g6 with the queen to enter the attack through the h-line. This also brings the left out knight back into the game to e8.

I'm still skeptical about it though. And just now dinner is ready. gtg
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 21 2013 12:25 GMT
#1503
On November 21 2013 21:20 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 21:04 Ketch wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:57 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:52 Plexa wrote:
On November 21 2013 20:51 Hryul wrote:
Carlsen got balls of steel to play the pawn b3 on the queen's side. Seems like he is confident in his position despite his inactive knight.

I think he likes the idea of getting his white bishop to f5 which controls the queening square if anand plays f6 met with g6 ... Bf5


I hope that's why he went into the tank to check that fully. He's in time trouble and can't afford another 20m think.


He can think in Anand's time anyway also. That's always something that is a bit disregarded imho


This. I always think if you think too long yourself when playing very risky and aggressive you lose a lot of monumentum since the opponent can use your time to think too.

Anand is losing more and more of his advantage by thinking too long

Sure he's losing a time advantage here, but the position is so delicate that his attacks could collapse very easily if he pursues the wrong lines (at which point black has some scary looking lines).
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 21 2013 12:30 GMT
#1504
Lol this commentary saw like 3-6 moves and they almost have to change again
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
November 21 2013 12:31 GMT
#1505
Anand has spent almost 45m on this move?
日本語が分かりますか
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 12:32:04
November 21 2013 12:31 GMT
#1506
On November 21 2013 21:31 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Anand has spent almost 45m on this move?


On November 21 2013 21:30 Ketch wrote:
Lol this commentary saw like 3-6 moves and they almost have to change again


Maybe only 2 moves btw, lol, I did not keep track exactly
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 21 2013 12:32 GMT
#1507
This is great! Yeah, it's a really complex situation. Anand seems to have good chances, but he has to get it right here.

I feel this is the first game I really see Anand digging deep to find the absolutely best move and push himself as far as he can. He is not happy with a draw here.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
November 21 2013 12:32 GMT
#1508
oh shittttttt
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 21 2013 12:36 GMT
#1509
here we go
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 21 2013 12:36 GMT
#1510
So about a move a minute now. The action has just started.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 12:39:16
November 21 2013 12:37 GMT
#1511
This incoming attack looks scary to defend with 16 moves to be played with 30minutes on the clock. Very interesting.

EDIT: oh man I missed Ne8 as a response to Qh4 :O
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 12:42:08
November 21 2013 12:41 GMT
#1512
after Qh6, Rh4 black seems to be able to defend just barely

that means, queening and immediately giving up the queen afterwards
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 21 2013 12:41 GMT
#1513
I love how the engine suggested gxf6, the computer just doesn't give a shit
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 21 2013 12:43 GMT
#1514
This position is great.

yeah gxf6 I saw too.. but a human would never play that in such a position :D
gg no re
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 21 2013 12:44 GMT
#1515
Hmmm conputers are suggesting Ne2, not really following the line of the commentators, also a different follow up if QH6 is played
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
November 21 2013 12:46 GMT
#1516
holy shit magnus can defend ahahahah
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#1517
Rf4 oh shit!!!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#1518
12 minutes left.. oh damn..
gg no re
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 12:48:53
November 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#1519
I think Carlsen is now completely lost. How on Earth he will stop Qh6, Rf4, Rh4, Qxh7#?

Haha, just as I predicted! ...b2, and White checkmates with 2 Black Queens on the board... or... not?

NVM, Anand is losing... Yuck...
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#1520
Carlsen will be a pawn down after queening
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