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mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 15 2013 13:47 GMT
#941
On November 15 2013 22:39 urboss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 22:36 mihajovics wrote:
On November 15 2013 22:36 urboss wrote:
Houdini is showing some crazy line where black can win the pawn back


PLZ show the line for those without an engine!!!

You can see the line here
http://tcec.chessdom.com/anand-carlsen-2013-live.php


thx!
what an interesting game!
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 13:49:44
November 15 2013 13:48 GMT
#942
On November 15 2013 22:45 TAMinator wrote:
wow I look away for 20 minutes and 80% of the pieces are gone. DANGIT
EDIT: nvm just the commentators playing with board


I laughed.

So, just had some time to look at the game, really interesting position.

Endgame in chess is bloody hardcore
Nocci
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany108 Posts
November 15 2013 13:52 GMT
#943
Can someone tell me a little about ratings?

What would be the difference in points where one would say "player A stands no chance vs player B"?
Or in other words: how significant is the 95 points between Carlsen and Anand?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
November 15 2013 13:53 GMT
#944
On November 15 2013 22:45 TAMinator wrote:
wow I look away for 20 minutes and 80% of the pieces are gone. DANGIT
EDIT: nvm just the commentators playing with board

Its something i dislike about the that commentator. He tends to go off on long extrapolations of moves even while the players are making moves in the mean time. Would much rather see shorter extrapolations that keep truer to the current board.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 15 2013 13:54 GMT
#945
On November 15 2013 22:52 Nocci wrote:
Can someone tell me a little about ratings?

What would be the difference in points where one would say "player A stands no chance vs player B"?
Or in other words: how significant is the 95 points between Carlsen and Anand?


"The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. If two players with equal ratings play against each other, they are expected to score an equal number of wins (50% each). A player whose rating is 100 points greater than his or her opponent's is expected to score 64%, if the difference is 200 points the expected score for the stronger player is 76%."

Elo rating system

shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:01:49
November 15 2013 14:00 GMT
#946
just an update, anand (black) is 1 pawn down, but carlsen's king is exposed and 2 of his pawns are not advanced. play proceeds unusually quick. unlikely that carlsen cannot defend properly.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 15 2013 14:01 GMT
#947
This is a guaranteed draw now. If anyone is wondering to keep watching... All action has ended now.
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Nocci
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany108 Posts
November 15 2013 14:05 GMT
#948
On November 15 2013 22:54 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 22:52 Nocci wrote:
Can someone tell me a little about ratings?

What would be the difference in points where one would say "player A stands no chance vs player B"?
Or in other words: how significant is the 95 points between Carlsen and Anand?


"The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. If two players with equal ratings play against each other, they are expected to score an equal number of wins (50% each). A player whose rating is 100 points greater than his or her opponent's is expected to score 64%, if the difference is 200 points the expected score for the stronger player is 76%."

Elo rating system



Thanks.

So with what I read about this championship setting and preparation, this 95 point rating difference don't seem to be that big of a deal.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
November 15 2013 14:06 GMT
#949
On November 15 2013 23:05 Nocci wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 22:54 Arevall wrote:
On November 15 2013 22:52 Nocci wrote:
Can someone tell me a little about ratings?

What would be the difference in points where one would say "player A stands no chance vs player B"?
Or in other words: how significant is the 95 points between Carlsen and Anand?


"The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. If two players with equal ratings play against each other, they are expected to score an equal number of wins (50% each). A player whose rating is 100 points greater than his or her opponent's is expected to score 64%, if the difference is 200 points the expected score for the stronger player is 76%."

Elo rating system



Thanks.

So with what I read about this championship setting and preparation, this 95 point rating difference don't seem to be that big of a deal.


64% win odds in a 12 match game are pretty significant.

All the computers have this game at a dead end draw right now, 5 in a row quite unfortunate.
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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 15 2013 14:07 GMT
#950
On November 15 2013 23:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a guaranteed draw now. If anyone is wondering to keep watching... All action has ended now.

If it's a guaranteed draw, try playing it against an engine!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 15 2013 14:10 GMT
#951
just got here, missed most of the game :/
Can anyone give a quick update on how this game's progressed? Were there any turnarounds and such?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 15 2013 14:11 GMT
#952
this game was crazy for a bit, was hoping we'd see something other than a draw but i guess it's not meant to be
TranslatorBaa!
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
November 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#953
On November 15 2013 23:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
this game was crazy for a bit, was hoping we'd see something other than a draw but i guess it's not meant to be


Oh god Anand didn't see RA1 looks like he is going to lose after all?
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Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
November 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#954
Blunder.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 15 2013 14:16 GMT
#955
Anand just blundered if carlsen can see it it's a win.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 15 2013 14:17 GMT
#956
oh nooo, Anand blundered again...
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
November 15 2013 14:17 GMT
#957
On November 15 2013 23:15 Crushinator wrote:
Blunder.


Massive blunder. RA1 was a very simple forced draw for black after now he is going to get crushed if Magnus carries it properly.
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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#958
thanks^

As a side note, this shows how little I know of endgames,
I have no idea why anands move was a blunder, even looking at the engine lines
Guess I'll find out in 12 moves or something
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#959
Anand what are you dooing ): Wow. That was huge.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:19:32
November 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#960
This actually looks like a genuine blunder, White seems to have a forced, won rook ending at his disposal now.

And ...Ra1 seemed so natural as well.
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