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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#961
Komodo still says Re1 draws.
I guess it's not so clear cut.
MC has to find the right moves.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 15 2013 14:22 GMT
#962
On November 15 2013 23:19 urboss wrote:
Komodo still says Re1 draws.
I guess it's not so clear cut.
MC has to find the right moves.


Anand has to find the right moves.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2013 14:22 GMT
#963
On November 15 2013 23:19 urboss wrote:
Komodo still says Re1 draws.
I guess it's not so clear cut.
MC has to find the right moves.

What's the line?

46...Re1 47.Bg8+ Kd4 48.Rxh4+ Kxe5 49.Bxb3 axb3 50.Kxb3?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
November 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#964
I think its still drawn if anand doesn't fuck up more?
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#965
Stockfish says white is really ahead...
48. Rh6+ Kc7 49. Bxb3 axb3 50. Rxh4 Rxg2+ 51. Kxb3 Re2 52. Kc4 Rxe5 53. a4 Kb6 54. Rh6+ Ka5 55. h4 Re1 56. Kxc5 Rc1+ 57. Kd6 Kxa4 58. h5 Rh1 59. Rh8 Kb5 60. h6 Kb6 61. Ke5 Kc6 62. Kf6 Rf1+ 63. Kg7 Rg1+ 64. Kf7 Rf1+ 65. Ke7 Re1+ 66. Kf7 Rf1+
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:27:40
November 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#966
in these kind of endgames, even a +-1 engine score can be misleading... but Anand is just seemingly falling apart... and his positions seems to worsen with each move...
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:28:05
November 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#967
This looks technically winning to me

edit: I don't have an engine though, but the ending looks won for white
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#968
I think carlsen's going to win this
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 15 2013 14:29 GMT
#969
History's being made
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 15 2013 14:30 GMT
#970
well, so much for draw, seems like huge unforced error
TranslatorBaa!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 15 2013 14:30 GMT
#971
I wonder why Anand keeps giving up pawns in the endgame just to get activity. The computer seems to like his moves often enough, but it seems that if you're only interested in a draw you might as well defend passively and not get into sharp variations.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 15 2013 14:30 GMT
#972
Why does the commentators not consider Rh6?
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 15 2013 14:30 GMT
#973
On November 15 2013 23:27 mihajovics wrote:
in these kind of endgames, even a +-1 engine score can be misleading... but Anand is just seemingly falling apart... and his positions seems to worsen with each move...

Stockfish is actually +2.04 right now and Houdini is +1.54
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:36:14
November 15 2013 14:34 GMT
#974
On November 15 2013 23:30 Aelfric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:27 mihajovics wrote:
in these kind of endgames, even a +-1 engine score can be misleading... but Anand is just seemingly falling apart... and his positions seems to worsen with each move...

Stockfish is actually +2.04 right now and Houdini is +1.54


yeah...
this is over...

poor Anand, it seems like nerves got to him in time trouble, or fatigue...

EDIT: I mean, as Carlsen being younger and fitter, one would assume that dragging on the game would benefit him on the long run
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 14:38:27
November 15 2013 14:37 GMT
#975
They should really have an image of the current chessboard at all time on the youtube stream, as someone that is not too familiar with chess it's really confusing to see the commentators tryings things out on the board, in the end i'm not even sure what move Anad and Carlsen are actually doing.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#976
This is just gonna end up a trivial rook endgame. Yay Carlsen!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
November 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#977
On November 15 2013 23:37 Jetaap wrote:
They should really have an image of the current chessboard at all time on the youtube stream, as someone that is not too familiar with chess it's really confusing to see them try out things on the board, in the end i'm not even sure what move Anad and Carlsen are actually doing.

The best thing imo is to keep another tab open where they show the current board.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 15 2013 14:40 GMT
#978
It's still a rook endgame though, this kind of stuff is hard to win.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2013 14:41 GMT
#979
no, this stuff is easy to win.

If I can see it, Carlsen can see it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
November 15 2013 14:41 GMT
#980
Commentators giving opposite advice to the engines.
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