On November 12 2013 22:27 GolemMadness wrote:
What's the alternative to ...Rd8?
What's the alternative to ...Rd8?
Rf8? Bd4? Something like that I guess
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:27 GolemMadness wrote: What's the alternative to ...Rd8? Rf8? Bd4? Something like that I guess | ||
qrs
United States3637 Posts
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hewo
Norway119 Posts
The Norwegian experts say that Magnus will win the match as a whole because Anand will get exhausted by games like these every day.... | ||
Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:27 qrs wrote: Ha, and now Carlsen rejects Anand's draw offer! Not surprised actually! Still, it is a draw ![]() | ||
Malli
Germany138 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The Rd8 was a mistake for sure =[ anand pls You can't even call it a mistake. The position isn't complicated, he knows he's basically offering a draw by playing Rd8. It's just an utterly feeble decision. On November 12 2013 22:27 GolemMadness wrote: What's the alternative to ...Rd8? Bd4 | ||
Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote: Rf8? Bd4? Something like that I guess ...Rf8 allows Rd7+, when black has to play Rf7 and trade rooks anyways. ...Bd4 looks more promising. Maybe something like Bxg6 Rf8 Qe4 | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? Draws were actually highest in the Soviet era, when Soviet GMs would routinely simply play out short draws with each other. Draws these days are usually at least mostly combative, but obviously top players are very good and the margin for a draw in a game is reasonably high. | ||
hewo
Norway119 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? I think the percentage og draws is increasing over time. People are talking about chess as a broken game, becuase soon the computers will be able to calculate a perfect move for every situation, a way to play that ensures you never lose. And the professionals are getting really close to that limit aswell. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? Most recent tournaments have had a good number of decisive results. A high draw percentage is typical for matches given the stakes and the extensive preparation. | ||
rtsAlaran
Germany383 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: The funny thing is that the rise of computers in the last few decades has shown that having mostly draws is NOT simply the inevitable result of players becoming better and better at the game—computers are far better than any people at the game of chess, yet they don't draw nearly as often (even with each other, I believe).Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? edit: On November 12 2013 22:34 hewo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? I think the percentage og draws is increasing over time. People are talking about chess as a broken game, becuase soon the computers will be able to calculate a perfect move for every situation, a way to play that ensures you never lose. And the professionals are getting really close to that limit aswell. Yeah, with all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:34 hewo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? I think the percentage og draws is increasing over time. People are talking about chess as a broken game, becuase soon the computers will be able to calculate a perfect move for every situation, a way to play that ensures you never lose. And the professionals are getting really close to that limit aswell. For the umpteenth time in this thread, no. Computers are nowhere near close being perfect and players are even further from it. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:29 Orome wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2013 22:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The Rd8 was a mistake for sure =[ anand pls You can't even call it a mistake. The position isn't complicated, he knows he's basically offering a draw by playing Rd8. It's just an utterly feeble decision. Bd4 Would you say he consciously chose to draw because he just wasn't feeling like he could convert the advantage to a win? | ||
LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
On November 12 2013 22:32 Andre wrote: Has the number of draws always been so high in professional chess? Or is it a thing of the last few decades? The giant struggle between Karpov and Kasparov for the title in 1984 had 38 draws, including a stretch of 17 in a row. What a match! | ||
hewo
Norway119 Posts
And I probably dont know what I'm talking about in my earlier post. I just wrote down what I've heard people say. I'm uninformed ![]() | ||
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