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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#221
On November 09 2013 01:33 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:46 Aerisky wrote:
On November 08 2013 16:24 urboss wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101174841

Anand has the bigger serve, and Carlsen is more of the baseline, persistent player. Carlsen in particular just has an indomitable will to win. He aims for quiet positions where nothing seems to be going on and says, 'Well, nothing's going on, but you're going to lose.

I follow tennis (but not chess that closely), but that caricature of both players seems very suspect lol. Wasn't that the quote from some financier who dabbled in chess? The quotation itself seems overtly flashy and rather contrived imo, again I don't follow chess that much and don't have too much knowledge, but it seems sort of off.


I think it's a good analogy for non-chess players.

Anand is a preparation monster, and most people are expecting him to reach midgames in good or at least equal positions to Carlsen, who is regarded as pretty lazy with his openings. Carlsen has a reputation for grinding out games into wins that other grandmasters would agree to a draw in.

I don't think that's quite a fair characterisation - just that it's not his main strength.

Carlsen joked in New in Chess recently that he was happy just to reach an equal position as White when he played against Kramnik :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 08 2013 18:08 GMT
#222
On November 09 2013 01:33 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:46 Aerisky wrote:
On November 08 2013 16:24 urboss wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101174841

Anand has the bigger serve, and Carlsen is more of the baseline, persistent player. Carlsen in particular just has an indomitable will to win. He aims for quiet positions where nothing seems to be going on and says, 'Well, nothing's going on, but you're going to lose.

I follow tennis (but not chess that closely), but that caricature of both players seems very suspect lol. Wasn't that the quote from some financier who dabbled in chess? The quotation itself seems overtly flashy and rather contrived imo, again I don't follow chess that much and don't have too much knowledge, but it seems sort of off.


I think it's a good analogy for non-chess players.

Anand is a preparation monster, and most people are expecting him to reach midgames in good or at least equal positions to Carlsen, who is regarded as pretty lazy with his openings. Carlsen has a reputation for grinding out games into wins that other grandmasters would agree to a draw in.

I suppose so, but as it fits into tennis, the serve is a weapon, not an indication of how well you prepared for the match. But I guess he means that in the sense of "anand opens very well"--->has a good serve. It's just...he's taking preparation in chess, and comparing it to specific strokes in tennis, I dunno. Tennis obviously takes its preparation against the strategy of the opponent too, it's just an imperfect analogy (like almost all analogies) in the first place I suppose. I mean, I guess it makes sense and I get what you mean, but I think it's a rather superficial connection.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 08 2013 18:21 GMT
#223
On November 09 2013 03:08 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 01:33 -Kaiser- wrote:
On November 08 2013 17:46 Aerisky wrote:
On November 08 2013 16:24 urboss wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101174841

Anand has the bigger serve, and Carlsen is more of the baseline, persistent player. Carlsen in particular just has an indomitable will to win. He aims for quiet positions where nothing seems to be going on and says, 'Well, nothing's going on, but you're going to lose.

I follow tennis (but not chess that closely), but that caricature of both players seems very suspect lol. Wasn't that the quote from some financier who dabbled in chess? The quotation itself seems overtly flashy and rather contrived imo, again I don't follow chess that much and don't have too much knowledge, but it seems sort of off.


I think it's a good analogy for non-chess players.

Anand is a preparation monster, and most people are expecting him to reach midgames in good or at least equal positions to Carlsen, who is regarded as pretty lazy with his openings. Carlsen has a reputation for grinding out games into wins that other grandmasters would agree to a draw in.

I suppose so, but as it fits into tennis, the serve is a weapon, not an indication of how well you prepared for the match. But I guess he means that in the sense of "anand opens very well"--->has a good serve. It's just...he's taking preparation in chess, and comparing it to specific strokes in tennis, I dunno. Tennis obviously takes its preparation against the strategy of the opponent too, it's just an imperfect analogy (like almost all analogies) in the first place I suppose. I mean, I guess it makes sense and I get what you mean, but I think it's a rather superficial connection.

You are just taking a simple analogy way too far. No analogy is perfect, you are talking about diferent things after all, there are bound to be diferences, you may as well disregard any of them. It's just a quick way for someone to grasp the concept that a player will get an advantage from the opening.
Mathematics
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium35 Posts
November 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#224
Looking forward to this!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 08 2013 19:14 GMT
#225
Get to know your world champion:



Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 08 2013 20:15 GMT
#226
On November 09 2013 03:21 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 03:08 Aerisky wrote:
On November 09 2013 01:33 -Kaiser- wrote:
On November 08 2013 17:46 Aerisky wrote:
On November 08 2013 16:24 urboss wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101174841

Anand has the bigger serve, and Carlsen is more of the baseline, persistent player. Carlsen in particular just has an indomitable will to win. He aims for quiet positions where nothing seems to be going on and says, 'Well, nothing's going on, but you're going to lose.

I follow tennis (but not chess that closely), but that caricature of both players seems very suspect lol. Wasn't that the quote from some financier who dabbled in chess? The quotation itself seems overtly flashy and rather contrived imo, again I don't follow chess that much and don't have too much knowledge, but it seems sort of off.


I think it's a good analogy for non-chess players.

Anand is a preparation monster, and most people are expecting him to reach midgames in good or at least equal positions to Carlsen, who is regarded as pretty lazy with his openings. Carlsen has a reputation for grinding out games into wins that other grandmasters would agree to a draw in.

I suppose so, but as it fits into tennis, the serve is a weapon, not an indication of how well you prepared for the match. But I guess he means that in the sense of "anand opens very well"--->has a good serve. It's just...he's taking preparation in chess, and comparing it to specific strokes in tennis, I dunno. Tennis obviously takes its preparation against the strategy of the opponent too, it's just an imperfect analogy (like almost all analogies) in the first place I suppose. I mean, I guess it makes sense and I get what you mean, but I think it's a rather superficial connection.

You are just taking a simple analogy way too far. No analogy is perfect, you are talking about diferent things after all, there are bound to be diferences, you may as well disregard any of them. It's just a quick way for someone to grasp the concept that a player will get an advantage from the opening.

No that's exactly what I'm saying. I still don't like it though w/e lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
November 09 2013 02:32 GMT
#227
what a downer, nothing happens.
only the clock is moving
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 09 2013 07:25 GMT
#228
Carlsen thinking about 1. a4...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 09 2013 08:21 GMT
#229
On November 09 2013 16:25 urboss wrote:
Carlsen thinking about 1. a4...

Doesn't the game start at 10:30 CET? (in 1h&10m)
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 09 2013 08:36 GMT
#230
On November 09 2013 17:21 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 16:25 urboss wrote:
Carlsen thinking about 1. a4...

Doesn't the game start at 10:30 CET? (in 1h&10m)

yes it does, they are just showing an empty board right now in the streams
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 09 2013 08:39 GMT
#231
LOL I so forgot about time difference. At least for today, this makes it even better to watch for me.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 09 2013 09:11 GMT
#232
The official stream is starting 10 minutes before for introductions.
9 more minutes...
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#233
So, which stream is best to follow?
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#234
I'm a bit worried for Carlsen already, he looks so pressured.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 09 2013 09:29 GMT
#235
Oh my god with 10 seconds to spare!!! Anand enters
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 09 2013 09:31 GMT
#236
Nf3 it is on
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 09 2013 09:32 GMT
#237
No eye contact at all, lol
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5585 Posts
November 09 2013 09:32 GMT
#238
Looks cramped for a WCC match.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
November 09 2013 09:35 GMT
#239
Who are the commentators?
3 Hatch Before Cool
nFo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada56 Posts
November 09 2013 09:36 GMT
#240
Man the photographers are kind of distracting, it looks so uncomfortable for them.
“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
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