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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
November 30 2016 21:23 GMT
#1701
Carlsen missed forced mate 3 times that game, if he loses the match this game will sting.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 21:26 GMT
#1702
Ah okay, that's fair.

The checkmate threat was a double pawn sacrifice. That's okay to miss, Carlsen you're forgiven.
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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
November 30 2016 21:27 GMT
#1703
Yeah, mates in 20+. Not particularly feasible with so little time.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 21:30:22
November 30 2016 21:29 GMT
#1704
On December 01 2016 06:27 bardtown wrote:
Yeah, mates in 20+. Not particularly feasible with so little time.


I'm not sure about that. Once you get the idea it isn't that hard to execute for players of this caliber. I think if Magnus found the first two or three moves he would have won easily. But finding the first move ofc is hard under this time control.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 21:30 GMT
#1705
On December 01 2016 06:27 bardtown wrote:
Yeah, mates in 20+. Not particularly feasible with so little time.


Depends on the situation, sometimes it's a very clear process, just your opponent can delay a lot, and you need like 5 moves just to advance one square... Say 2 bishop vs king or bishop + knight endgame. But yeah, this one wasn't one of those.
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 30 2016 21:30 GMT
#1706
There was a more obvious mate than the double pawn sacrifice. Carlsen is going to be furious for sure when he is shown it.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 21:32 GMT
#1707
On December 01 2016 06:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:27 bardtown wrote:
Yeah, mates in 20+. Not particularly feasible with so little time.


I'm not sure about that. Once you get the idea it isn't that hard to execute for players of this caliber. I think if Magnus found the first two or three moves he would have won easily. But finding the first move ofc is hard under this time control.


Eh, I dunno.

From the looks of what Jerry said, his bishop needed to be on a particular square like 10-15 moves ahead of time, and if he was a different one on the same diagonal, it wouldn't have worked. Making those sacrifices and missing something means you instant lose, so I guess he didn't want to take that risk analyzing that with one minute on the clock.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 21:35 GMT
#1708
On December 01 2016 06:30 Lachrymose wrote:
There was a more obvious mate than the double pawn sacrifice. Carlsen is going to be furious for sure when he is shown it.


What did you see after 74 ... g8 that doesn't involve the double pawn sacrifice?
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 21:43:53
November 30 2016 21:35 GMT
#1709
The mate Jerry pointed out was not the only one, there was one easier to see.

To put it in perspective, I didn't see it live (of course) but with the engine saying something was there I was able to find it no problems without needing the engine to tell me what it was.

*I'm talking about the 'obvious' mate after 72. ... Rb7.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 21:45:27
November 30 2016 21:44 GMT
#1710
I'd love to see a breakdown of Karjakin's opening preparation for this match. What percentage of time he spent delving deep into variation of the spanish opening.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 21:52 GMT
#1711
Really fun response by Carlsen. Not a boring static position, that's for sure.
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
November 30 2016 22:18 GMT
#1712
Come on Carlsen, win this one.
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 30 2016 22:29 GMT
#1713
He sees it!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 30 2016 22:30 GMT
#1714
Karjakin finally cracked
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2016 22:30 GMT
#1715
GG
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
November 30 2016 22:30 GMT
#1716
Very nice
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2016 22:31 GMT
#1717
well that's game over, don't think Karjakin will win with Black.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 22:32 GMT
#1718
Rxc7...

Oh geez man, I would've found that Rb1 with 3 second time controls. Pressure was too much.
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 30 2016 22:32 GMT
#1719
Well, at least now we'll get to see Karjakin play for a win. Karjakin's defense has been impressive but his openings lackluster.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 30 2016 22:32 GMT
#1720
Falling asleep here and 11 point blunder wow
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