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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 16:08:25
November 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#961
I actually think he came out of the opening quite fine in game 1. In the second game he didn't really have anything throughout the whole game , though. I think if he wants to win he needs to play a little more off-beat. Magnus is just unbeatable in these standard Spanish games.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 16:23:29
November 09 2014 16:20 GMT
#962
On November 10 2014 01:07 Nyxisto wrote:
I actually think he came out of the opening quite fine in game 1. In the second game he didn't really have anything throughout the whole game , though. I think if he wants to win he needs to play a little more off-beat. Magnus is just unbeatable in these standard Spanish games.
I think it was off-beat - game 2 they were out of theory by move 6. If Anand invested a lot of time into the mainline Berlin planning to be able to hold then he might be in trouble. Does he continue to play it or does this shake his confidence? I think Carlsen declining the drawish endgame 4. 0-0 Nxe4 5. d4 is a good choice for the match.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 09 2014 16:30 GMT
#963
What I meant was that Anand should probably avoid getting into these "typical Magnus" positions. Very standard openings with some kind of mixed up move orders or little changes. If I remember correctly last year Anand did really well in a Caro Kann game and nearly won if he wouldn't have let it slip.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 09 2014 17:09 GMT
#964
On November 10 2014 01:30 Nyxisto wrote:
What I meant was that Anand should probably avoid getting into these "typical Magnus" positions. Very standard openings with some kind of mixed up move orders or little changes. If I remember correctly last year Anand did really well in a Caro Kann game and nearly won if he wouldn't have let it slip.
What is a typical Magnus position? He can play anything well which is part of why he is dominant. I don't think Anand should be afraid of main lines - you can't win a world championship that way. If he wants to win he can't realistically avoid mainline theory.

Anand has to try to draw all his black games with something and the Berlin seems like a great choice. Losing his first black game doesn't bode well for that strategy. Carlsen has indicated he isn't planning to go into the Berlin endgame and that worked well game 2. In the end, if Anand is fighting for a draw every game then it's going to be very one-sided.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 09 2014 18:20 GMT
#965
Today, Anand blundered with 1...e5?? and the rest was history.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 09 2014 18:22 GMT
#966
On November 10 2014 02:09 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 01:30 Nyxisto wrote:
What I meant was that Anand should probably avoid getting into these "typical Magnus" positions. Very standard openings with some kind of mixed up move orders or little changes. If I remember correctly last year Anand did really well in a Caro Kann game and nearly won if he wouldn't have let it slip.
What is a typical Magnus position? He can play anything well which is part of why he is dominant. I don't think Anand should be afraid of main lines - you can't win a world championship that way. If he wants to win he can't realistically avoid mainline theory.

Anand has to try to draw all his black games with something and the Berlin seems like a great choice. Losing his first black game doesn't bode well for that strategy. Carlsen has indicated he isn't planning to go into the Berlin endgame and that worked well game 2. In the end, if Anand is fighting for a draw every game then it's going to be very one-sided.

Typical Magnus position would seem to be a slow, maybe dry-ish, manoeuvring type position. Although as you say you don't get to where he is by not being able to play everything. Still, you'd think Anand should aim for more dynamic positions where possible.
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 09 2014 18:25 GMT
#967
Especially because Anand has so many amazing Sicilian wins in his career. I actually don't really understand the shift in recent years towards e5. It always seems that on the super-gm level it's really hard for black to get some dynamic counterplay. It's usually really solid and drawish, especially the Berlin lines, but I'd really like to see Anand play the Najdorf.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-10 07:04:51
November 10 2014 05:03 GMT
#968
Tactics really are great. Just reached 1620.5 on chesstempo.com. I really like the way they give you a positive score for solving no matter how long you take (standard puzzle set). Lately, been taking my time to calculate various lines, searching through more possible moves, and trying to visualize future positions to predict and assess follow-up play.

I can say this really seems to be strengthening my play as today I went 3-0 against my friend in OTB rapid with relative ease. Game 1 was a positional breakdown and in game 2 and 3 I found quick tactics in the opening to win decisive material.

In my online 30 minute per side games I have been finding myself wishing I had more time to dig deeper into the middlegame positions (3 minutes per move drains your clock pretty fast). I am thinking of trying 45|45.

I will continue on with the advice given by marvellosity in this thread: tactics are the fastest way to improve until 1800 on chesstempo.com standard tactics problems. I have also been reading a few pages of Pandolfini's Endgame Course here and there but am only about 1/4 of the way through.

Heh, can anyone please explain this one to me? The answer is a one-move Nxd5 but it seems equal after Rxd5. Hmm maybe because black's king safety might be worse?

http://i.imgur.com/Lg4Jd6P.png

Heh, found another problem where I thought black was missing the key defensive move and white's "tactic" was working. Figured black should have played f5 after Qh6 to prevent the knight from checking on f6. Hmm, I guess after exf5 it doesn't look too good for black?

http://i.imgur.com/yd7IInX.png
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-10 06:55:44
November 10 2014 06:54 GMT
#969
In that first example, Rxd5 then Nxf6 seems good (with thread of the discovered check, if black goes Qxf6 then of course Re7 since the Queen is pinned). You have a lot of threats and I think you win at least the rook. At least all the lines I checked you did.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
November 10 2014 07:04 GMT
#970
Ah nice! Thx.
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Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-10 10:22:59
November 10 2014 09:57 GMT
#971
On November 10 2014 14:03 mishimaBeef wrote:
Heh, can anyone please explain this one to me? The answer is a one-move Nxd5 but it seems equal after Rxd5. Hmm maybe because black's king safety might be worse?

http://i.imgur.com/Lg4Jd6P.png


1. Nxd5 Rxd5
2. Nxf6
For example 2. ... Rdd8 loses to
3. Nd5+ Kg8 (Kh7 loses to 4. Re7)
4. Re7 and white gets a Queen for a rook, else checkmate

As has been pointed out, 2. ... Qxf6 loses Queen for free after 3. Re7
2. ... Rc8 loses a rook for free after 3. Ne8+
Anything else loses the rook on d5 for free.


On November 10 2014 14:03 mishimaBeef wrote:
Heh, found another problem where I thought black was missing the key defensive move and white's "tactic" was working. Figured black should have played f5 after Qh6 to prevent the knight from checking on f6. Hmm, I guess after exf5 it doesn't look too good for black?

http://i.imgur.com/yd7IInX.png

1. Qh6 f5
2. Ng5 Qe7
3. Qxg6+ will lose you either the Queen for a Knight or everything else

2. ... Qe8 will force a bunch of checks into most likely losing material (it's a long line though)
2. ... Qd7 3. Qxg6+ Kf8 4. Rxf5+ loses at least the Queen again

hope I was able to help
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 10 2014 10:34 GMT
#972
On November 10 2014 18:57 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 14:03 mishimaBeef wrote:
Heh, can anyone please explain this one to me? The answer is a one-move Nxd5 but it seems equal after Rxd5. Hmm maybe because black's king safety might be worse?

http://i.imgur.com/Lg4Jd6P.png


1. Nxd5 Rxd5
2. Nxf6
For example 2. ... Rdd8 loses to
3. Nd5+ Kg8 (Kh7 loses to 4. Re7)
4. Re7 and white gets a Queen for a rook, else checkmate

As has been pointed out, 2. ... Qxf6 loses Queen for free after 3. Re7
2. ... Rc8 loses a rook for free after 3. Ne8+
Anything else loses the rook on d5 for free.


Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 14:03 mishimaBeef wrote:
Heh, found another problem where I thought black was missing the key defensive move and white's "tactic" was working. Figured black should have played f5 after Qh6 to prevent the knight from checking on f6. Hmm, I guess after exf5 it doesn't look too good for black?

http://i.imgur.com/yd7IInX.png

1. Qh6 f5
2. Ng5 Qe7
3. Qxg6+ will lose you either the Queen for a Knight or everything else

2. ... Qe8 will force a bunch of checks into most likely losing material (it's a long line though)
2. ... Qd7 3. Qxg6+ Kf8 4. Rxf5+ loses at least the Queen again

hope I was able to help


Black has 2...Qf6. White's still better, but 2.Rxf5 is much easier.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5852 Posts
November 10 2014 12:24 GMT
#973
Were there any press conferences? h5 is a legendary blunder I wonder how they reacted
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 10 2014 17:20 GMT
#974
You can find the press conference of game 2 at the end of the Vod, starts at hour four.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/7928738/events/3553668/videos/67549131
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
November 10 2014 17:41 GMT
#975
Wow pretty cool to see them chatting about the game right after it was over.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 11 2014 10:45 GMT
#976
I wonder how Anand will react today. It would be nice to see him turn the tides and actually win a game.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5298 Posts
November 11 2014 11:45 GMT
#977
he looked rather impotent so far
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 11 2014 11:48 GMT
#978
yeah, a different Anand is going to have to show up. As of right now it's looking even worse than last year. At least he kinda went toe to toe with Carlsen for a while at the start there...
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 12:14:45
November 11 2014 12:13 GMT
#979
Love Svidler's commentary.

I agree Anand has looked somewhat impotent so far, let's see what he can dish out today and tomorrow. He did win the candidates after all.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 11 2014 12:18 GMT
#980
Very interesting start!
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