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On August 02 2013 09:17 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 07:32 Elroi wrote:
It would be funny if the athletes took this in their own hands and started running around the stadium with the LGBT flag after winning a medal... That would make my day. I have a feeling that if nothing is changed by the time the Olympics come around at least a few will attempt to do this. What is Russia gonna do, take away their medal and arrest them in front of millions of people?
Why don't you ask Sergei Magnitsky or Alexander Litvinenko what they do to people they don't like? They murder people and you're wondering if they'd go as far as arresting someone? This is bad news, but it is Russia, I can't say I'm shocked by it.
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Good, i hope this happens. There needs to be a big powerful country that steps up and sets an example for world.
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^ Trolls aren't even creative anymore. 
Just another embarrassment for Putin & Co. The absurdity continues...
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On August 02 2013 09:58 IPA wrote:^ Trolls aren't even creative anymore. Just another embarrassment for Putin & Co. The absurdity continues...
Someone having a different opinion than yours doesn't make them a troll.
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On August 02 2013 10:02 Rhaegal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 09:58 IPA wrote:^ Trolls aren't even creative anymore. Just another embarrassment for Putin & Co. The absurdity continues... Someone having a different opinion than yours doesn't make them a troll.
If someone comes in and declares that the Earth is actually flat, and that scientists are actually occultists trying to convince the world to believe in demonic spheres, we'd call them a troll. Thinking that we need to have laws against homosexuality is on the same plane of stupidity.
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I thought that the thread you mentioned also lead to other threads about more specific examples.
My understanding was that the thread you linked was for a general LGBT Rights and so on, and they had links to specific cases of where those rights were moving forwards or backwards.
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On August 02 2013 10:12 IntoTheheart wrote:I thought that the thread you mentioned also lead to other threads about more specific examples. My understanding was that the thread you linked was for a general LGBT Rights and so on, and they had links to specific cases of where those rights were moving forwards or backwards.
My mistake then.
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There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant
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On August 02 2013 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 10:12 IntoTheheart wrote:I thought that the thread you mentioned also lead to other threads about more specific examples. My understanding was that the thread you linked was for a general LGBT Rights and so on, and they had links to specific cases of where those rights were moving forwards or backwards. My mistake then.
I'm not on that thread much but they had links so I got confused and went with my gut.
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No one is mentioning how dependent Europe is on russian oil and gas, which are cheap and not in the middle of a muslim war-zone. European countries may disagree with Russia's laws, but they won't make a problem of it.
Next to that, we also have the Syria thing... In case you forgot, Russia doesn't give a fuck what other countries think or say about their decisions. So why would they care about other countries' opinion on gays?
It's their country, who cares that they don't have the same cultural standard?
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On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant
Yes because the group complaining isn't on the complete bottom of the world totem pole of shit means their problems aren't real or matter. People can solve more then one problem at a time.
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On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant
The "there are worse things out there to support so stop supporting this!" argument is sickening and boring and stale.
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On August 02 2013 10:18 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant Yes because the group complaining isn't on the complete bottom of the world totem pole of shit means their problems aren't real or matter. People can solve more then one problem at a time.
Yes because that's exactly what I said. I said they don't matter. Because there's no difference at all between saying they matter absolutely nothing, and saying the 24/7 media endless media spam is abhorrent and disregards far more pressing issues.
Do you people even think before you type out your angry responses?
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On August 02 2013 10:17 Callynn wrote:
It's their country, who cares that they don't have the same cultural standard?
Might be in their best interest to give up an irrational fear in order to gain standing in the eyes of the other powerful developed places, which could lead to better deals for Russia down the line when dealing with these other places. But maybe Russia just wants to stick with more of the 'tough guy don't listen' image for now
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That is the way to go about it! No gay propaganda, no rights to those perverts! I'm very satisfied with that, why are you people supporting this whilst only the minority of you is gay?
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On August 02 2013 10:19 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant The "there are worse things out there to support so stop supporting this!" argument is sickening and boring and stale.
That's not the argument he's making. He's commenting on how today's young, liberal crowd are harping on gay rights like it's the most important thing in the world, while billions of people starve and genocides are commited across the globe. Personally, I'm rather annoyed of yuppies. Kids that have never worked a day in their lives, pampered by mommy and daddy, that think they know everything about the world.
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On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant
You're kidding right? I mean, you ARE aware of the civil rights era. Everyone was just spouting self-righteousness then too for the sake of edgy controversial politics. People are discriminated against, abused, and even murdered because of their sexual orientation.
But please, dictate which issues we should be concerned with.
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On August 02 2013 10:22 RandomPlayer wrote:
That is the way to go about it! No gay propaganda, no rights to those perverts! I'm very satisfied with that, why are you people supporting this whilst only the minority of you is gay?
The funny thing is that people who used to call this propaganda were exclusively bigots. Now it is just a factual description of reality.
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On August 02 2013 10:22 Rhaegal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 10:19 Slaughter wrote:On August 02 2013 10:15 Artax wrote:
There are people in the US who finish high school and can't read, practically doomed to a life of poverty. There are people outside the US who are starving, people oppressed, people tortured, and us spoiled westerners can't stop talking about gay "rights" like a paper that says marriage. I'm all for gay rights but this is becoming a fucking obsession that pushes out far more important issues... I'm just sick of hearing about it every single day and constantly harped on by the mainstream media because it gets views and clicks when there are so much more pressing concerns but those don't have an edgy controversial political bent to them which gets shallow people to opportunistically spout some self-righteousness without actually doing or accomplishing anything.... The whole thing is sickening and boring and stale and I can't wait for anything, anything at all to become the new yuppie flavor of the month issue because anything at all is better than this exaggerated victimization. /rant The "there are worse things out there to support so stop supporting this!" argument is sickening and boring and stale. That's not the argument he's making. He's commenting on how today's young, liberal crowd are harping on gay rights like it's the most important thing in the world, while billions of people starve and genocides are commited across the globe. Personally, I'm rather annoyed of yuppies. Kids that have never worked a day in their lives, pampered by mommy and daddy, that think they know everything about the world.
They're completely non-comparable issues.
Starvation is due to an extremely ingrained economic system, genocides are committed across the globe. Both are not ignored by 'yuppies', but people accept there's a limit to what they can fix, especially in the cases where you would have to undermine national sovereignty to fix it.
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