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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 16 2013 17:02 GMT
#961
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 01:47 29 fps wrote:
In the past, if you wanted to have a second child in China, you had to pay a hefty fine. Exceptions: minority groups (not Han Chinese) can have two children. Also, if both husband and wife are only-children, they may have two kids (even if they are Han Chinese).

Now, the law isn't as strictly enforced, but people are still only having one child because it costs so much to raise kids these days.


heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one"

heh so i guess i should pick one random guy off the internet to believe while deriding the other without any particular reason to trust either of them.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#962
On August 17 2013 02:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On August 17 2013 01:47 29 fps wrote:
In the past, if you wanted to have a second child in China, you had to pay a hefty fine. Exceptions: minority groups (not Han Chinese) can have two children. Also, if both husband and wife are only-children, they may have two kids (even if they are Han Chinese).

Now, the law isn't as strictly enforced, but people are still only having one child because it costs so much to raise kids these days.


heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one"

heh so i guess i should pick one random guy off the internet to believe while deriding the other without any particular reason to trust either of them.

Iuno i have pretty good reason to believe the the Chinese government is not murdering babies.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
August 16 2013 18:39 GMT
#963
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 01:47 29 fps wrote:
In the past, if you wanted to have a second child in China, you had to pay a hefty fine. Exceptions: minority groups (not Han Chinese) can have two children. Also, if both husband and wife are only-children, they may have two kids (even if they are Han Chinese).

Now, the law isn't as strictly enforced, but people are still only having one child because it costs so much to raise kids these days.


heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1336466/Chinese-region-must-conduct-20000-abortions.html

Depends on your definition, but forced abortions would probably count as infanticide.
1000 at least.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 16 2013 18:51 GMT
#964
On August 17 2013 03:39 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On August 17 2013 01:47 29 fps wrote:
In the past, if you wanted to have a second child in China, you had to pay a hefty fine. Exceptions: minority groups (not Han Chinese) can have two children. Also, if both husband and wife are only-children, they may have two kids (even if they are Han Chinese).

Now, the law isn't as strictly enforced, but people are still only having one child because it costs so much to raise kids these days.


heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1336466/Chinese-region-must-conduct-20000-abortions.html

Depends on your definition, but forced abortions would probably count as infanticide.

Holy fuck those poor women! is that real!?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 16 2013 19:05 GMT
#965
You are kinda funny ComaDose.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 16 2013 19:14 GMT
#966
heh what do you mean?
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right?

but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse!
what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists?
or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
August 16 2013 19:22 GMT
#967


While activists and organizations supportive of gay rights have called for a ban on Russian-made products like Stolichnaya vodka in bars across North America



Is that not a bit racist for a response?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 16 2013 19:28 GMT
#968
On August 17 2013 04:22 paddyz wrote:
Show nested quote +


While activists and organizations supportive of gay rights have called for a ban on Russian-made products like Stolichnaya vodka in bars across North America



Is that not a bit racist for a response?

I'm not sure if you know what racist means but i think you are saying that's xenophobic or nationalist or something.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 16 2013 19:42 GMT
#969
On August 17 2013 04:14 ComaDose wrote:
heh what do you mean?
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right?

but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse!
what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists?
or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression?


Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:58:17
August 16 2013 19:54 GMT
#970
On August 17 2013 04:42 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 04:14 ComaDose wrote:
heh what do you mean?
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right?

but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse!
what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists?
or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression?


Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on.


Forced abortion was never government policy, or done by the government and was always illegal. (as with all things, you might find a few exceptions of course) It's true that the heavy fine and burden of raising more than one child during the times when it was heavily restricted CAUSED some people to have forced abortions, but saying that's the equivalent of government killing your children is intelluctually dishonest.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:55:54
August 16 2013 19:54 GMT
#971
On August 17 2013 04:42 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 04:14 ComaDose wrote:
heh what do you mean?
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right?

but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse!
what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists?
or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression?


Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on.

I see what you are saying. I'm aware of the different views, medical practices, and laws surrounding abortion. There is no doubt china has committed horrible human rights tragedies and that is the reference of the original comment.
But there is no way to use that as evidence that if you have more than one child the government will literally kill your children. forced abortion isnt even standard policy its usually just monetary.
and the only reason i may have been snarky about it was cause when someone said you need a source for that obviously wrong blanket statement he came back with a "*sigh*" like he was spelling out the obvious before linking to a bunch of stuff that didn't support his statement.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 16 2013 20:46 GMT
#972
On August 17 2013 04:54 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 04:42 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On August 17 2013 04:14 ComaDose wrote:
heh what do you mean?
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right?

but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse!
what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists?
or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression?


Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on.


Forced abortion was never government policy, or done by the government and was always illegal. (as with all things, you might find a few exceptions of course) It's true that the heavy fine and burden of raising more than one child during the times when it was heavily restricted CAUSED some people to have forced abortions, but saying that's the equivalent of government killing your children is intelluctually dishonest.


I wasn't saying it was government policy. I was under the impression that ComaDose's post heavily implied forced abortions were a significantly lighter offense than killing an infant, and that was the only part I was addressing.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 01:02:00
August 19 2013 01:01 GMT
#973
After winning relay in the world championships, Russian sprinters kiss on podium to protest anti-gay law

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
byah!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 03:52:07
August 19 2013 03:50 GMT
#974
On August 19 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote:
After winning relay in the world championships, Russian sprinters kiss on podium to protest anti-gay law

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Is that actually why they're kissing?

And what is that actually from?
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 19 2013 03:52 GMT
#975
On August 19 2013 12:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote:
After winning relay in the world championships, Russian sprinters kiss on podium to protest anti-gay law

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Is that actually why they're kissing?

And what is that actually from?

yes
dreaming of a sunny day
insectoidform
Profile Joined August 2013
Bulgaria6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 04:37:21
August 19 2013 04:34 GMT
#976
I'm glad they're enforcing these laws. Are you guys not scared of what will happen if gays run rampant? Sooner or later the earth will go extinct because lack of population. Russia has their head screwed on straight, why can't you airheads be the same? What if I want to have sex or marry my dog, will that be something people fight for next? you start with gays, then move on to animals, then people have sex with walls. The puck has to stop somewhere.

User was banned for this post.
Take pride in your countrymen and credit for their work
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
August 19 2013 04:41 GMT
#977
On August 19 2013 13:34 insectoidform wrote:
I'm glad they're enforcing these laws. Are you guys not scared of what will happen if gays run rampant? Sooner or later the earth will go extinct because lack of population. Russia has their head screwed on straight, why can't you airheads be the same? What if I want to have sex or marry my dog, will that be something people fight for next? you start with gays, then move on to animals, then people have sex with walls. The puck has to stop somewhere.


To paraphrase Louis C.K. "Good, I hope you blow your dog. The fuck does it matter?"
Woof
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 20 2013 00:47 GMT
#978
more good news in the news. hockey players speaking out
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 01:44:14
August 20 2013 01:43 GMT
#979
On August 20 2013 09:47 ComaDose wrote:
more good news in the news. hockey players speaking out

It sucks these dudes are put in a tough spot. Henrik Lundqvist has been pretty outspoken on gay rights, but has been mum on this. You train all your life for two things: to win a Cup, and to win an olympic gold (well not, really since the NHL just started doing that in the 90s but shhh). He's biting his tongue so he doesn't get shut out, arrested, blah blah blah. I understand why he'd wanna do that, but at the same time, he would probably have sway to make an impact by saying it is bullshit. Meh.

Def big time kudos to those who have said fuck it and spoke out anyway though. If anything is gonna get them to cave, it's gonna be hockey players speaking out.
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SonZHi
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong30 Posts
August 20 2013 17:07 GMT
#980
On August 19 2013 12:52 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 12:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 19 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote:
After winning relay in the world championships, Russian sprinters kiss on podium to protest anti-gay law

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Is that actually why they're kissing?

And what is that actually from?

yes

No
Kseniya Ryzhova, one of the 4 x 400-meter relay winners, said: "The storm of emotions going through us was incredible. And if we, accidentally, while congratulating each other, touched lips, excuse me. We think the whole fuss is more of a sick fantasy not grounded in anything."

Russian women often kiss one another on the cheek when celebrating a happy occasion or even just in greeting.
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