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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote: heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" heh so i guess i should pick one random guy off the internet to believe while deriding the other without any particular reason to trust either of them. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On August 17 2013 02:02 Sn0_Man wrote: heh so i guess i should pick one random guy off the internet to believe while deriding the other without any particular reason to trust either of them. Iuno i have pretty good reason to believe the the Chinese government is not murdering babies. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:49 ComaDose wrote: heh so i guess that guy was way off when he said "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1336466/Chinese-region-must-conduct-20000-abortions.html Depends on your definition, but forced abortions would probably count as infanticide. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On August 17 2013 03:39 sushiman wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1336466/Chinese-region-must-conduct-20000-abortions.html Depends on your definition, but forced abortions would probably count as infanticide. Holy fuck those poor women! is that real!? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
"the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right? but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse! what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists? or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression? | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
While activists and organizations supportive of gay rights have called for a ban on Russian-made products like Stolichnaya vodka in bars across North America Is that not a bit racist for a response? | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
I'm not sure if you know what racist means but i think you are saying that's xenophobic or nationalist or something. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On August 17 2013 04:14 ComaDose wrote: heh what do you mean? "the government will literally kill your children if you have more than one" is bullshit right? but forced abortions holy shit that's a crazy level of abuse! what was the original point again? gay activists are more active than women's rights activists? or was it since people didn't complain about that oppression people shouldn't complain about any oppression? Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On August 17 2013 04:42 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on. Forced abortion was never government policy, or done by the government and was always illegal. (as with all things, you might find a few exceptions of course) It's true that the heavy fine and burden of raising more than one child during the times when it was heavily restricted CAUSED some people to have forced abortions, but saying that's the equivalent of government killing your children is intelluctually dishonest. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On August 17 2013 04:42 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Forced abortion is pretty much equal to killing your baby. Assuming a halfway decent amount of time has passed between the fertilization of the egg and the forced abortion, the odds of the baby surviving pregnancy really aren't that bad. Most natural abortions happen really early on. I see what you are saying. I'm aware of the different views, medical practices, and laws surrounding abortion. There is no doubt china has committed horrible human rights tragedies and that is the reference of the original comment. But there is no way to use that as evidence that if you have more than one child the government will literally kill your children. forced abortion isnt even standard policy its usually just monetary. and the only reason i may have been snarky about it was cause when someone said you need a source for that obviously wrong blanket statement he came back with a "*sigh*" like he was spelling out the obvious before linking to a bunch of stuff that didn't support his statement. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On August 17 2013 04:54 Feartheguru wrote: Forced abortion was never government policy, or done by the government and was always illegal. (as with all things, you might find a few exceptions of course) It's true that the heavy fine and burden of raising more than one child during the times when it was heavily restricted CAUSED some people to have forced abortions, but saying that's the equivalent of government killing your children is intelluctually dishonest. I wasn't saying it was government policy. I was under the impression that ComaDose's post heavily implied forced abortions were a significantly lighter offense than killing an infant, and that was the only part I was addressing. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On August 19 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote: After winning relay in the world championships, Russian sprinters kiss on podium to protest anti-gay law + Show Spoiler + Is that actually why they're kissing? And what is that actually from? | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On August 19 2013 12:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Is that actually why they're kissing? And what is that actually from? yes | ||
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insectoidform
Bulgaria6 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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Renent
Canada302 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:34 insectoidform wrote: I'm glad they're enforcing these laws. Are you guys not scared of what will happen if gays run rampant? Sooner or later the earth will go extinct because lack of population. Russia has their head screwed on straight, why can't you airheads be the same? What if I want to have sex or marry my dog, will that be something people fight for next? you start with gays, then move on to animals, then people have sex with walls. The puck has to stop somewhere. To paraphrase Louis C.K. "Good, I hope you blow your dog. The fuck does it matter?" | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
On August 20 2013 09:47 ComaDose wrote: more good news in the news. hockey players speaking out It sucks these dudes are put in a tough spot. Henrik Lundqvist has been pretty outspoken on gay rights, but has been mum on this. You train all your life for two things: to win a Cup, and to win an olympic gold (well not, really since the NHL just started doing that in the 90s but shhh). He's biting his tongue so he doesn't get shut out, arrested, blah blah blah. I understand why he'd wanna do that, but at the same time, he would probably have sway to make an impact by saying it is bullshit. Meh. Def big time kudos to those who have said fuck it and spoke out anyway though. If anything is gonna get them to cave, it's gonna be hockey players speaking out. | ||
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SonZHi
Hong Kong30 Posts
No Kseniya Ryzhova, one of the 4 x 400-meter relay winners, said: "The storm of emotions going through us was incredible. And if we, accidentally, while congratulating each other, touched lips, excuse me. We think the whole fuss is more of a sick fantasy not grounded in anything." Russian women often kiss one another on the cheek when celebrating a happy occasion or even just in greeting. | ||
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