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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:15 CecilSunkure wrote: Sorry if it came off that way, I have a habit of doing that. It wasn't my intention to imply nobody cares. I used "Eh who cares" as an expression to try to contrast the reaction I see in other people in order to set up an alternative opinion. But yeah it didn't come off that way. Edit: And no it isn't about what's mainstream or not. I just thought it was an interesting way to think about it. Sort of like pointing out a deeper issue or hidden meaning behind current events. Just reflecting on why things have happened. The idea that gay rights are coming about only because there is nothing better to do is pretty offensive. You're only digging yourself deeper in here. | ||
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GattAttack
Canada202 Posts
On June 27 2013 00:18 theking1 wrote: That was not what black lawmakers took away from the decision. “I foresee some great and terrible changes in the voting rights arena,” said longtime Democratic state Sen. Hank Sanders of Selma, the site of 1965’s “Bloody Sunday,” which proved a catalyst for the Voting Rights Act. Sanders, who represents all or part of several predominantly black counties, said he feared Republican lawmakers would find ways to limit voting. “It will not be long in my opinion before the right to vote will be snatched with a thousand little cuts and some big cuts,” he said. “This is the most destructive decision of my lifetime.” Senate Minority Leader Vivian Davis Figures, D-Mobile, said in a statement that the decision was a “huge setback” to voters. “This is a total injustice and another tactic to suppress the minority vote,” she said in the statement. Rep. Darrio Melton, D-Selma, said in a statement that “the people of Alabama, and of Selma” knew the costs of defending the law. “The decision by the Supreme Court is a slap in the face to all those who marched and bled to ensure our fundamental right to vote.” Uhhh isn't this a reaction to another issue? I'm pretty sure this is about the decision where the supreme court claimed that section 4 of the Voting Rights act was unconstitutional. This has nothing to do with the DOMA stuff. (A quick googling got me to this article: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20130626/NEWS02/306250025/Alabamians-reaction-Supreme-Court-ruling-splits-racial-party-lines if anyone is interested) This really confused me lol | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:15 CecilSunkure wrote: Sorry if it came off that way, I have a habit of doing that. It wasn't my intention to imply nobody cares. I used "Eh who cares" as an expression to try to contrast the reaction I see in other people in order to set up an alternative opinion. But yeah it didn't come off that way. Edit: And no it isn't about what's mainstream or not. I just thought it was an interesting way to think about it. Sort of like pointing out a deeper issue or hidden meaning behind current events. Just reflecting on why things have happened. You are grossly overestimating your contribution to the thread. Please stop. No one cares about how you think your apathy is interesting. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:15 CecilSunkure wrote: Sorry if it came off that way, I have a habit of doing that. It wasn't my intention to imply nobody cares. I used "Eh who cares" as an expression to try to contrast the reaction I see in other people in order to set up an alternative opinion. But yeah it didn't come off that way. Edit: And no it isn't about what's mainstream or not. I just thought it was an interesting way to think about it. Sort of like pointing out a deeper issue or hidden meaning behind current events. Just reflecting on why things have happened. I continue my assertion that you are going full hipster on us. We aren't talking about film or poetry here. There isn't a recipe for clam chowder in the ruling, so there isn't much of a deeper meaning. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:11 CecilSunkure wrote: I just don't feel like this whole thing is much of a victory. It's not surprising that it happened. Prohibition happened at a time of wealth and peace for the US. Well, similar is happening now. There is no World War and no great cause to fight for. Things that feel more petty like legalizing marijuana and marriage rights are what the focus is on. It's just a healthy reflection on the overall outlook of the events. Not everyone needs to be excited about this event to have a valid or thought provoking opinion. I think that you are vastly underestimating the ways in which the decisions made by the supreme court in the last few days are going to affect American society for the next few decades. I think your perspective is weird, its true that when the apocalypse is happening or a war is going on that things can seem smaller in perspective, but whats your point? Should we not celebrate the victories during peacetime? If your point is only that there could be bigger things happening then I guess you have made it but I don't see how it's really that thought provoking :p This is a huge deal to the hundreds of thousands of people who want to have their marriages legitimate in the eyes of the state. Just join in the celebration you big party pooper  | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:17 packrat386 wrote: The idea that gay rights are coming about only because there is nothing better to do is pretty offensive. You're only digging yourself deeper in here. Offensive or not, people wouldn't be focusing on this issue if we were in a world war -this is a big deal to me. Just like the actual topic of the thread is a big deal to you. If you're all so much against unfair treatment try to not all jump at me because I wanted to take the discussion in a slightly different direction. So you think my opinion is weird, that's fine. I might think gay marriage is weird, but you don't see me attacking your posts. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:18 GattAttack wrote: Uhhh isn't this a reaction to another issue? I'm pretty sure this is about the decision where the supreme court claimed that section 4 of the Voting Rights act was unconstitutional. This has nothing to do with the DOMA stuff. (A quick googling got me to this article: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20130626/NEWS02/306250025/Alabamians-reaction-Supreme-Court-ruling-splits-racial-party-lines if anyone is interested) This really confused me lol solved.sorry my bad. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:20 CecilSunkure wrote: Offensive or not, people wouldn't be focusing on this issue if we were in a world war. How on earth is this hypothetical in any way meaningful? And you don't get to decide the direction of the thread. If you want a different discussion make your own thread. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:20 CecilSunkure wrote: Offensive or not, people wouldn't be focusing on this issue if we were in a world war. Well no shit. I also wouldn't be very interested in the issue if I was on fire, or having sex(but not on fire, that would be weird). Your point being? | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:20 CecilSunkure wrote: Offensive or not, people wouldn't be focusing on this issue if we were in a world war -this is a big deal to me. Just like the actual topic of the thread is a big deal to you. If you're all so much against unfair treatment try to not all jump at me because I wanted to take the discussion in a slightly different direction. I hope you grace every significant general thread with a friendly reminder that we are still not in a world war. It is oh so helpful to be reminded of this. | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:22 Plansix wrote: Well no shit. I also wouldn't be very interested in the issue if I was on fire, or having sex(but not on fire, that would be weird). Your point being? Point being that I think it's interesting such an event like this warrants the attitude I've received in this thread and shuns the one I assumed. But if it's too off-topic, like someone else pointed out then I'm sorry for bringing it up at all. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Point being that I think it's interesting such an event like this warrants the attitude I've received in this thread and shuns the one I assumed. But if it's too off-topic, like someone else pointed out then I'm sorry for bringing it up at all. You keep using that word...It does not mean what you think it means. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Point being that I think it's interesting such an event like this warrants the attitude I've received in this thread and shuns the one I assumed. But if it's too off-topic, like someone else pointed out then I'm sorry for bringing it up at all. You find it interesting that others prioritize civic events differently than you and are unwilling to entertain your non-sequitor "big picture" consideration? | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:35 farvacola wrote: You find it interesting that others prioritize civic events differently than you and are unwilling to entertain your non-sequitor "big picture" consideration? No, my actual opinion is different than the one I assumed here. I was surprised at how negative the responses were. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Point being that I think it's interesting such an event like this warrants the attitude I've received in this thread and shuns the one I assumed. But if it's too off-topic, like someone else pointed out then I'm sorry for bringing it up at all. Walking into a thread and saying that an entire group of people don't matter is often a good way to attract vehement criticism. For instance, if you walked into a holocaust memorial thread and said you didn't really see a point in it, you'd get an almost universal backlash. The only reason that it isn't as universal about LGBT issues is because religious and political organizations have decided to make it a publicity issue. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Point being that I think it's interesting such an event like this warrants the attitude I've received in this thread and shuns the one I assumed. But if it's too off-topic, like someone else pointed out then I'm sorry for bringing it up at all. Well I am glad you felt the need to tell us all that you think its interesting that we would likely care less about this issue if we were at war and being bombed. We need big picture thinkers like yourself to keep us narrow minded people aware of what we are really looking at. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2013 02:38 CecilSunkure wrote: No, my actual opinion is different than the one I assumed here. I was surprised at how negative the responses were. Its because you passive aggressively insulted the people in the thread by saying "Meh, its not really a big deal, other larger things are more important." That's like if your grandmother just recovered from cancer and I went "Meh, shes going to die of something else" | ||
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