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On June 25 2013 00:39 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:29 FetTerBender wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Big-t wrote:On June 25 2013 00:24 FetTerBender wrote:On June 25 2013 00:21 Big-t wrote:On June 25 2013 00:19 Ventris wrote:On June 25 2013 00:17 Big-t wrote:On June 25 2013 00:16 Ventris wrote:On June 25 2013 00:15 Big-t wrote:On June 25 2013 00:15 Julmust wrote:
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I asked before, but you mustve missed the post. Care to explain WHY you dont accept gays? (and that youre not suppose to have anal sex cant be the only reason)
Why can´t it be only reason??? Because its ridiculously moronic? Ah.... no? It´s disgusting (but that´s subjective) Why do you even care how other people live there sexlife. It's absolutely none of your bussiness. I sure hope you are some kind of troll honestly. Thank you bringing this up, I simply don´t want walking for instant along the street and suddenly some gays are kissing next to me. WTF! So? I dont want to see idiots holding signs with "god hates fags", still i have to endure such stupidity. No you don´t have to, go to them and talk to them... It becomes problematic when TV shows such things... So if you see a gay couple kissing you would really go to them and ask them to stop it? (Assuming you would do that in a ... positive and ... friendly? manner) If I see a couple(gay or not) kissing I find it to be annoying, depending on the level of the kiss. A little smoochie? no problem. Trying to eat each other out? That's a problem. Regardless of who it is.
I agree with you, couples who try to eat each other in public are annoying in my opinion aswell. Still, why would i care enough to even attempt to stop them? As long as there is no law against it, it is allowed and they can show as much decency about the topic as they personally want.
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On June 25 2013 00:25 Guilty wrote:Good move by TL, I approve 
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Keep it going!
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On June 25 2013 00:38 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:34 Arghmyliver wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? It's not a political agenda. It's solidarity. And it's necessary because of people like you. You said that you think gays are disgusting and you wonder why people are standing up for them. Were you ever bullied in school? More likely the other way around I guess. So where is the solidarity with all the other minorities who have far less rights than gays? And what is the problem with me finding gays disgusting? Do i think they should have the right to marriage and all other rights? Yes, as long as they don't adopt children. But I still think it's extremely disgusting what they are doing, but this is my right and no one needs to stand up for them about this. And what has this to do with me being bullied in school?
I... ಠ_ಠ wut
And as far as I know, in the eyes of the government (I'm talking American government), all races have the same legal rights. My solidarity is with my homosexual bros and bro-ettes...my bromosexuals (and all LGBT, obvs, but that just doesn't have the same ring to it).
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On June 25 2013 00:36 FetTerBender wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:33 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:31 Klondikebar wrote:On June 25 2013 00:28 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 25 2013 00:12 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:07 Iyerbeth wrote:On June 25 2013 00:05 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:01 FetTerBender wrote:On June 24 2013 23:58 shadymmj wrote:
But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know. No community would ever do something a little bit away from their core meaning. Like football / soccer / sports against racism. Never. when balotelli gets abused on the pitch for being black and it starts to affect him negatively, then it IS an issue. when gay sc2 players get abused for being gay, come back to me. Yup, I've never heard homophobic coments from SC2 community. LGB T members especially never get abuse in every single thread. Can't imagine why there aren't more, especially from the Korean side of things. technically, that's not being homophobic. you're citing one person's conundrum and extrapolating it to cover the entire sc2 community, as though it concerned everyone. the fact is that it is not. racism is very evident in sport. i doubt racism, homophobia etc. can be said to be a problem in sc2. Maybe the same thing is true for homosexual sc2 players? Perhaps we actually do have a gay progamer or two, they just don't want to openly identify as gay, because then they'd get hundreds of funny people responding with "ha ha well that certainly explains why he plays like one!!" or whatever. How about because sexual orientation has got nothing to do with Starcraft? What makes a progamer think that Starcraft fans are interested in whether he is gay or not? If I suffer from a prolapsed rectum (not saying being gay is a disease btw), is there a need to announce it in a proleague interview? But we talk about the players' girlfriends all the time. When iNcontroL got married it was HUGE news. We talk about sexual orientation all the time. Check yo privilege please. the topics of discussion in those cases would be girlfriends and marriage respectively, not sexual orientation. yes when incontrol gets married to a woman we kind of also know that he's straight, but that's not the point. And if i post some pics of a gay wedding and talk about the great sunny day, the delicious cake, the great wardrobe, you would never ever jump onto that in a negative way, because this thread would be about a marriage and not about the sexual orientation of the gay couple. Right?
cool, you find a gay progamer who got married, write something about that event here, and i won't say a thing. we got a deal?
in other news, people prefer to read normative stories...
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On June 25 2013 00:42 shadymmj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:36 FetTerBender wrote:On June 25 2013 00:33 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:31 Klondikebar wrote:On June 25 2013 00:28 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 25 2013 00:12 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:07 Iyerbeth wrote:On June 25 2013 00:05 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:01 FetTerBender wrote:
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No community would ever do something a little bit away from their core meaning.
Like football / soccer / sports against racism.
Never. when balotelli gets abused on the pitch for being black and it starts to affect him negatively, then it IS an issue. when gay sc2 players get abused for being gay, come back to me. Yup, I've never heard homophobic coments from SC2 community. LGB T members especially never get abuse in every single thread. Can't imagine why there aren't more, especially from the Korean side of things. technically, that's not being homophobic. you're citing one person's conundrum and extrapolating it to cover the entire sc2 community, as though it concerned everyone. the fact is that it is not. racism is very evident in sport. i doubt racism, homophobia etc. can be said to be a problem in sc2. Maybe the same thing is true for homosexual sc2 players? Perhaps we actually do have a gay progamer or two, they just don't want to openly identify as gay, because then they'd get hundreds of funny people responding with "ha ha well that certainly explains why he plays like one!!" or whatever. How about because sexual orientation has got nothing to do with Starcraft? What makes a progamer think that Starcraft fans are interested in whether he is gay or not? If I suffer from a prolapsed rectum (not saying being gay is a disease btw), is there a need to announce it in a proleague interview? But we talk about the players' girlfriends all the time. When iNcontroL got married it was HUGE news. We talk about sexual orientation all the time. Check yo privilege please. the topics of discussion in those cases would be girlfriends and marriage respectively, not sexual orientation. yes when incontrol gets married to a woman we kind of also know that he's straight, but that's not the point. And if i post some pics of a gay wedding and talk about the great sunny day, the delicious cake, the great wardrobe, you would never ever jump onto that in a negative way, because this thread would be about a marriage and not about the sexual orientation of the gay couple. Right? cool, you find a gay progamer who got married, write something about that event here, and i won't say a thing. we got a deal? in other news, people prefer to read normative stories...
And the LGBT community would prefer to have equal rights...
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On June 25 2013 00:38 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:34 Arghmyliver wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? It's not a political agenda. It's solidarity. And it's necessary because of people like you. You said that you think gays are disgusting and you wonder why people are standing up for them. Were you ever bullied in school? More likely the other way around I guess. So where is the solidarity with all the other minorities who have far less rights than gays? And what is the problem with me finding gays disgusting? Do i think they should have the right to marriage and all other rights? Yes, as long as they don't adopt children. But I still think it's extremely disgusting what they are doing, but this is my right and no one needs to stand up for them about this. And what has this to do with me being bullied in school?
Just so you know, recent studies show that kids that are adopted by homosexual are at no disadvantage. There is nothing wrong or different with having 2 parents of the same gender.
This is not just an opinion, this is based on studies and science.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/children-in-gay-adoptions-at-no-disadvantage-8518004.html (Could find better source, but this is with a quick google search)
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This thread is a great example of exactly why we need a rainbow horse.
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On June 25 2013 00:38 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:34 Arghmyliver wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? It's not a political agenda. It's solidarity. And it's necessary because of people like you. You said that you think gays are disgusting and you wonder why people are standing up for them. Were you ever bullied in school? More likely the other way around I guess. So where is the solidarity with all the other minorities who have far less rights than gays? And what is the problem with me finding gays disgusting? Do i think they should have the right to marriage and all other rights? Yes, as long as they don't adopt children. But I still think it's extremely disgusting what they are doing, but this is my right and no one needs to stand up for them about this. And what has this to do with me being bullied in school?
Well, gays are bullied at school and that should likely stop because its bad.
As for you finding gays disgusting, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to disagree with you and call say your opinion is ignorant and wrong. That is how opinions work. You can have them, but say them out loud and people can challenge them. A lot of the community does not agree with you as well, so you can expect that people will also voice their opposition.
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This is a repeat post from page 322 of the Gay Starcraft Players thread but it definitely needs to be shown here because the reason it was posted there is coming up here as well.
If you are a heterosexual please repeat after me out loud (I suggest perhaps in an area that wont disturb many people).
On a daily basis as a straight person...
-I can be pretty sure that my roommate, hallmates and classmates will be comfortable with my sexual orientation.
-If I pick up a magazine, watch TV, or play music, I can be certain my sexual orientation will be represented.
-When I talk about my heterosexuality (such as in a joke or talking about my relationships), I will not be accused of pushing my sexual orientation onto others.
-I do not have to fear that if my family or friends find out about my sexual orientation there will be economic, emotional, physical or psychological consequences.
-I did not grow up with games that attack my sexual orientation.
-I am not accused of being abused, warped or psychologically confused because of my sexual orientation.
-I can go home from most meetings, classes, and conversations without feeling excluded, fearful, attacked, isolated, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance, stereotyped, or feared because of my sexual orientation.
-I am never asked to speak for everyone who is heterosexual.
-I can be sure that my classes will require curricular materials that testify to the existence of people with my sexual orientation.
-People don't ask why I made my choice of sexual orientation.
-People don't ask why I made my choice to be public about my sexual orientation.
-I do not have to fear revealing my sexual orientation to friends or family. It's assumed.
-My sexual orientation was never associated with a closet.
-People of my gender do not try to convince me to change my sexual orientation.
-I don't have to defend my heterosexuality.
-I can easily find a religious community that will not exclude me for being heterosexual.
-I can count on finding a therapist or doctor willing and able to talk about my sexuality.
-I am gauranteed to find sex education literature for couples of my sexual orientation.
-Because of my sexual orientation, I do not need to worry that people will harass me.
-I have no need to qualify my straight identity.
-My masculinity/femininity is not challenged because of my sexual orientation.
-I am not identified by my sexual orientation.
-I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help my sexual orientation will not work against me.
-If my day, week, or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it has sexual orientation overtones.
-Whether I rent or I go to a theatre, Blockbuster, an EFS or TOFS movie, I can be sure I will not have trouble finding my sexual orientation represented.
-I can walk in public with my significant other and not have people double-take or stare.
-I can choose to not think politically about my sexual orientation.
-I do not have to worry about telling my roommate about my sexuality. It is assumed I am a heterosexual.
-I can remain oblivious of the language and culture of LGBTQ folk without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
-I can go for months without being called straight.
-I'm not grouped because of my sexual orientation.
-My individual behaviour does not reflect on people who identify as heterosexual.
-In everyday conversation, the language my friends and I use generally assumes my sexual orientation. For example, sex inappropriately referring to only heterosexual sex or family meaning heterosexual relationships with children.
-People do not assume I am experienced in sex (or that I even have it!) merely because of my sexual orientation.
-I can kiss a person of the opposite gender without being watched and stared at or made to feel unsafe.
-Nobody calls me straight with maliciousness.
-People can use terms that describe my sexual orientation and mean positive things (IE "straight as an arrow", "standing up straight" or "straightened out") instead of demeaning terms (IE "eww, that's gay" or being "queer")
-I am not asked to think about why I am straight.
-I can be open about my sexual orientation without worrying about my job.
-I have the innate ability to speak about disease without being stigmatized because of my sexual orientation.
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On June 25 2013 00:42 shadymmj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:36 FetTerBender wrote:On June 25 2013 00:33 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:31 Klondikebar wrote:On June 25 2013 00:28 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 25 2013 00:12 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:07 Iyerbeth wrote:On June 25 2013 00:05 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:01 FetTerBender wrote:
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No community would ever do something a little bit away from their core meaning.
Like football / soccer / sports against racism.
Never. when balotelli gets abused on the pitch for being black and it starts to affect him negatively, then it IS an issue. when gay sc2 players get abused for being gay, come back to me. Yup, I've never heard homophobic coments from SC2 community. LGB T members especially never get abuse in every single thread. Can't imagine why there aren't more, especially from the Korean side of things. technically, that's not being homophobic. you're citing one person's conundrum and extrapolating it to cover the entire sc2 community, as though it concerned everyone. the fact is that it is not. racism is very evident in sport. i doubt racism, homophobia etc. can be said to be a problem in sc2. Maybe the same thing is true for homosexual sc2 players? Perhaps we actually do have a gay progamer or two, they just don't want to openly identify as gay, because then they'd get hundreds of funny people responding with "ha ha well that certainly explains why he plays like one!!" or whatever. How about because sexual orientation has got nothing to do with Starcraft? What makes a progamer think that Starcraft fans are interested in whether he is gay or not? If I suffer from a prolapsed rectum (not saying being gay is a disease btw), is there a need to announce it in a proleague interview? But we talk about the players' girlfriends all the time. When iNcontroL got married it was HUGE news. We talk about sexual orientation all the time. Check yo privilege please. the topics of discussion in those cases would be girlfriends and marriage respectively, not sexual orientation. yes when incontrol gets married to a woman we kind of also know that he's straight, but that's not the point. And if i post some pics of a gay wedding and talk about the great sunny day, the delicious cake, the great wardrobe, you would never ever jump onto that in a negative way, because this thread would be about a marriage and not about the sexual orientation of the gay couple. Right? cool, you find a gay progamer who got married, write something about that event here, and i won't say a thing. we got a deal? in other news, people prefer to read normative stories...
And now we're back to LiquidDrone's post. Go reread it. You've talked yourself in a circle. Oh, and I reiterate your point earlier that straight couple stuff has nothing to do with starcraft, which is why you said gay progamers shouldn't talk about their personal lives. Why the hell did i have to hear about iNcontroL's engagement?
P.S. I was actually really happy for Geoff and Anna, just makin a point.
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On June 25 2013 00:36 Yorke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:35 Plansix wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? But its not politics. Its just declaring that TL supports those people and they will find a safe place in this community. There is nothing political about saying everyone will be treated equally with in the community. Love how showing compassion to other people is somehow a political issue.
These changes come through government laws and acts and that makes this a political issue same with civil rights and women's rights. They were also about human decency but were certainly considered political issues. Tax breaks could be considered showing compassion to the people getting the lowered taxes. Though just because it's a political issue doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed in the General forum here.
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So TL is like Google now.
First TL+ and now the themed logo.
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Norway28665 Posts
On June 25 2013 00:46 Talin wrote:
So TL is like Google now.
First TL+ and now the themed logo.
google+ is actually free.
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On June 25 2013 00:46 Talin wrote:
So TL is like Google now.
First TL+ and now the themed logo.
When I can play breakout/arcanoid with the forum search my life will be complete.
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On June 24 2013 23:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:09 namste wrote:
Has there been some discrimination against LBGT folks in Esports lately then? there kind of is every time a strategy deemed as cowardly or "bad" is described as "gay".
I heard my neighbours kids playing in the garden with some friends the other day and they kept using gay in a negative way, much like I did when I was 11 or 12, and it made me disappointed that times haven't really changed.
But then I realised that even though I don't use gay as a negative word anymore I do use the word phaggot with certain friends some that are gay, which isn't any better than what those kids were doing and what I did when I was their age.
I'm not homophobic and the friends I would say phaggot to aren't homophobic and know that I'm not homophobic so it's not like there's any confusion there. It's not something I've really thought about before, I was comfortable saying it as long as I was sure the people I was with knew that I had no problem with gay people but now I think about it some of my use of the word phaggot isn't much different to those little kids who use the word interchangably with bad.
I do like the new logo, I wish it could stay for longer.
+ Show Spoiler [a little bit relevant] +
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On June 25 2013 00:44 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:42 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:36 FetTerBender wrote:On June 25 2013 00:33 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:31 Klondikebar wrote:On June 25 2013 00:28 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 25 2013 00:12 shadymmj wrote:On June 25 2013 00:07 Iyerbeth wrote:On June 25 2013 00:05 shadymmj wrote:
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when balotelli gets abused on the pitch for being black and it starts to affect him negatively, then it IS an issue.
when gay sc2 players get abused for being gay, come back to me. Yup, I've never heard homophobic coments from SC2 community. LGB T members especially never get abuse in every single thread. Can't imagine why there aren't more, especially from the Korean side of things. technically, that's not being homophobic. you're citing one person's conundrum and extrapolating it to cover the entire sc2 community, as though it concerned everyone. the fact is that it is not. racism is very evident in sport. i doubt racism, homophobia etc. can be said to be a problem in sc2. Maybe the same thing is true for homosexual sc2 players? Perhaps we actually do have a gay progamer or two, they just don't want to openly identify as gay, because then they'd get hundreds of funny people responding with "ha ha well that certainly explains why he plays like one!!" or whatever. How about because sexual orientation has got nothing to do with Starcraft? What makes a progamer think that Starcraft fans are interested in whether he is gay or not? If I suffer from a prolapsed rectum (not saying being gay is a disease btw), is there a need to announce it in a proleague interview? But we talk about the players' girlfriends all the time. When iNcontroL got married it was HUGE news. We talk about sexual orientation all the time. Check yo privilege please. the topics of discussion in those cases would be girlfriends and marriage respectively, not sexual orientation. yes when incontrol gets married to a woman we kind of also know that he's straight, but that's not the point. And if i post some pics of a gay wedding and talk about the great sunny day, the delicious cake, the great wardrobe, you would never ever jump onto that in a negative way, because this thread would be about a marriage and not about the sexual orientation of the gay couple. Right? cool, you find a gay progamer who got married, write something about that event here, and i won't say a thing. we got a deal? in other news, people prefer to read normative stories... And now we're back to LiquidDrone's post. Go reread it. You've talked yourself in a circle. Oh, and I reiterate your point earlier that straight couple stuff has nothing to do with starcraft, which is why you said gay progamers shouldn't talk about their personal lives. Why the hell did i have to hear about iNcontroL's engagement? P.S. I was actually really happy for Geoff and Anna, just makin a point.
look, i would PREFER not to hear about what incontrol gets up to in his spare time, whether they are stereotypically "good" or "bad" activities.
if someone writes about it and I happen to read it then I shrug and say, well whatever, good for him (even if incontrol was being married to another man, hypothetically of course). what on earth do you want me to do about it? erase that article from my memory?
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I don't think people should diminish this to a political issue. The notion of equality is not just political - and while it's true that in practice, it's the political class who make the changes, I think it's perfectly possible to support equality just for the principle of it.
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On June 25 2013 00:44 dcsoda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:36 Yorke wrote:On June 25 2013 00:35 Plansix wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? But its not politics. Its just declaring that TL supports those people and they will find a safe place in this community. There is nothing political about saying everyone will be treated equally with in the community. Love how showing compassion to other people is somehow a political issue. These changes come through government laws and acts and that makes this a political issue same with civil rights and women's rights. They were also about human decency but were certainly considered political issues. Tax breaks could be considered showing compassion to the people getting the lowered taxes. Though just because it's a political issue doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed in the General forum here.
I disagree. Civil and Women's Rights were not political issues - and the fact that they had to be brought about by a change in politics is frankly an embarrassment in the history of human society.
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On June 25 2013 00:51 Arghmyliver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:44 dcsoda wrote:On June 25 2013 00:36 Yorke wrote:On June 25 2013 00:35 Plansix wrote:On June 25 2013 00:30 theodorus12 wrote:On June 25 2013 00:25 Meatloaf wrote:
Lots of trolls in these posts.
hope the gay rights go forward in the US , I had the opportunity of sharing the joy of two friends (one of them a coworker) when gay marriage was approved in spain and can say one thing:
you must treat people as people , they are not asking for more than any other heterosexual person theyre asking to be the same in front of the law , to get married and to get his rights as a couple as any other couple out there.
its not a butts and penises argument... its about people and their right to live and be who they are as is... without hiding nothing as it was some kind of criminal behavior.
I just love how everyone who doesn't agree with your views is a troll haha. And like I already said, it's not that the people disagreeing with this hate gays, they might think that gays are disgusting, like I do. But it has noting to do with not wanting gays to have the same right etc. It's just that this is the wrong place for it, why should a site that was built by its community, be abused by some admin only to push his political agenda? But its not politics. Its just declaring that TL supports those people and they will find a safe place in this community. There is nothing political about saying everyone will be treated equally with in the community. Love how showing compassion to other people is somehow a political issue. These changes come through government laws and acts and that makes this a political issue same with civil rights and women's rights. They were also about human decency but were certainly considered political issues. Tax breaks could be considered showing compassion to the people getting the lowered taxes. Though just because it's a political issue doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed in the General forum here. I disagree. Civil and Women's Rights were not political issues - and the fact that they had to be brought about by a change in politics is frankly an embarrassment in the history of human society.
hear hear!
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On June 25 2013 00:46 Talin wrote:
So TL is like Google now.
First TL+ and now the themed logo.
But when I type "zerg rush" into TL.net's search bar, nothing funny happens. 
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