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Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
June 14 2013 13:25 GMT
#381
I don't personally agree, that bestiality = animal abuse.
Quite likely, there are plenty of ways to have sex without causing the animal any major discomfort - perhaps some might even like it. As far as sexual fetishes go, this doesn't really seem like something particularly unreasonable to me.
Sounds like a issue blown up by moralists / animal rights activists.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 14 2013 13:26 GMT
#382
On June 14 2013 22:22 Meow-Meow wrote:
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On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote:
A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate.
But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then.



This is some of these absurd urban myths that are older than the sun and always happen to "a friend of mine".

If I had a € for every time I heard the "sex has first anal sex with bf, her anus rips, she shits the bed, they blame the dog, father shoots the dog"-story from completely independent people all over Germany, I could buy a family-sized pizza and a coke.

There have actually been people who have been caught red-handed fucking animals.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 14 2013 13:28 GMT
#383
On June 14 2013 22:19 S_SienZ wrote:
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On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote:
A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate.
But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then.

Just out of curiosity, did you ask him whether he asked his friends how it was like?

Coz I can see some people genuinely wanting to fuck animals instead of humans, hey if some people want to fuck cars, anything can happen. But using an animal as a substitute for a girl... I dunno how that would even work.

Relevant: www.vice.com/en_us/the-vice-guide-to-sex/asses-of-the-caribbean
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 13:29:49
June 14 2013 13:29 GMT
#384
On June 14 2013 22:26 S_SienZ wrote:
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On June 14 2013 22:22 Meow-Meow wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote:
A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate.
But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then.



This is some of these absurd urban myths that are older than the sun and always happen to "a friend of mine".

If I had a € for every time I heard the "sex has first anal sex with bf, her anus rips, she shits the bed, they blame the dog, father shoots the dog"-story from completely independent people all over Germany, I could buy a family-sized pizza and a coke.

There have actually been people who have been caught red-handed fucking animals.

There's also the example that you can go to rural societies abroad and just talk to them about it.There was a documentary about donkey fucking in South America I recall being linked on tl years ago. It's a relatively recent taboo now we don't actually spend any time with animals but when your great grandparents were answering Kinsey's questions in the 40s they admitted they did it too.

Edit: Plexa linked it above
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
June 14 2013 13:30 GMT
#385
On June 14 2013 16:01 Orangered wrote:
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On June 14 2013 16:00 TOCHMY wrote:
I've not much experience with beastiality... But I don't see why it should not be illegal

The issue is why need to legislate at all? Is it that mainstream in your country?

not at all which is probably why it hasnt been made illegal until now.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
June 14 2013 13:31 GMT
#386
On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:
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On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote:
more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole.

I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people.

According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it.

Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
June 14 2013 13:33 GMT
#387
On June 14 2013 22:31 mcc wrote:
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On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote:
more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole.

I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people.

According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it.

Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely.

Well we have the farmer and the pig. The farmer seems up for it because he's doing it and the pig isn't a person. How is my concept of harming other people flawed in this case because I honestly don't see any other people in a coupling between a farmer and a pig?
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 13:35:50
June 14 2013 13:33 GMT
#388
On June 14 2013 22:31 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote:
more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole.

I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people.

According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it.

Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely.

It's not his personal concept.

You really think any legal system could function without established conceptions of harm and tests of causation?

There's a reason only immediate harm is considered, because we need to justify sanctioning a human by depriving him of his liberty. Taking into account things like statistical harm is the kind of reasoning that leads to horribly disproportionate laws like the UK's imprisonment for public protection in 03.
epicanthic
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong295 Posts
June 14 2013 13:33 GMT
#389
Don't really see bestiality as animal abuse per se depending on the situation. Fucking animals can definitely be argued as a form of cruelty, but getting fucked by an animal is a different, so long as the animal itself doesn't get hurt in the process. And even if it does, you can always point out the fact that we kill thousands upon thousands of animals for no real reason other than to overconsume, so there's a bit of a double standard going on here.

Still doesn't make it any less of a fucking weird fetish though.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 14 2013 13:39 GMT
#390
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.
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Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
June 14 2013 13:41 GMT
#391
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote:
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.


I'm gonna show the news post to all my friends who what Sweden is about.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 14 2013 13:42 GMT
#392
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote:
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.

And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner....
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 14 2013 13:44 GMT
#393
On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote:
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.

And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner....

OMG the new TL race based horses.....

I GET IT NOW !!!!
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
June 14 2013 13:46 GMT
#394
On June 14 2013 22:44 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote:
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.

And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner....

OMG the new TL race based horses.....

I GET IT NOW !!!!


Horses and elephants..I think TL wants the D -joke is waiting to be made here?
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 14 2013 13:46 GMT
#395
They lost their right to get fucked in the ass by a horse.
But they never had the right to fuck a pig in the ass. Thats just mean.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 14 2013 13:48 GMT
#396
On June 14 2013 22:46 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:44 S_SienZ wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote:
I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.

And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner....

OMG the new TL race based horses.....

I GET IT NOW !!!!


Horses and elephants..I think TL wants the D -joke is waiting to be made here?

Which is why EG bought the D to force TL to partner up for proleague.

Dum dum dummmmmmmmm
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
June 14 2013 13:48 GMT
#397
Whether it's legal or not doesn't matter to me. Though I think it would be dangerous to go around arresting people who are involved sexually with an animal and not physically harming it, no matter how disgusting it might be to the majority of people. To me that sounds similar to banning gay sex. There are differences of course, but still..
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 13:57:16
June 14 2013 13:51 GMT
#398
On June 14 2013 22:48 Thor.Rush wrote:
Whether it's legal or not doesn't matter to me. Though I think it would be dangerous to go around arresting people who are involved sexually with an animal and not physically harming it, no matter how disgusting it might be to the majority of people. To me that sounds similar to banning gay sex. There are differences of course, but still..

I think one big difference is consent. And its really offensive to draw the comparison you just did :/
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 14:06:21
June 14 2013 13:57 GMT
#399
e: Eh not very funny need to sleep
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 14 2013 13:57 GMT
#400
I was going to put the horse action on our women because I thought that there was no way that a man would risk placing his junk behind a horse. In fact you should not be behind a horse at all. Those motherfuckers can kick, I tell you. But then I saw that there are brave men in the world that does donkeys.

Just keep away from the rear of the hoof walkers, m'kay?
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