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I don't personally agree, that bestiality = animal abuse. Quite likely, there are plenty of ways to have sex without causing the animal any major discomfort - perhaps some might even like it. As far as sexual fetishes go, this doesn't really seem like something particularly unreasonable to me. Sounds like a issue blown up by moralists / animal rights activists.
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On June 14 2013 22:22 Meow-Meow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote: A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate. But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then. This is some of these absurd urban myths that are older than the sun and always happen to "a friend of mine". If I had a € for every time I heard the "sex has first anal sex with bf, her anus rips, she shits the bed, they blame the dog, father shoots the dog"-story from completely independent people all over Germany, I could buy a family-sized pizza and a coke. There have actually been people who have been caught red-handed fucking animals.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:19 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote: A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate. But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then. Just out of curiosity, did you ask him whether he asked his friends how it was like? Coz I can see some people genuinely wanting to fuck animals instead of humans, hey if some people want to fuck cars, anything can happen. But using an animal as a substitute for a girl... I dunno how that would even work. Relevant: www.vice.com/en_us/the-vice-guide-to-sex/asses-of-the-caribbean
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United States42186 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:26 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:22 Meow-Meow wrote:On June 14 2013 22:16 UglyBastard wrote: A swedish exchange student actually told me that some swedish adolescents go to a farmer and pay him for having sex with one of his animals if they can't find a horny girl in town. He said it was a general habit where he came from, but he didn't participate. But this was like 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed since then. This is some of these absurd urban myths that are older than the sun and always happen to "a friend of mine". If I had a € for every time I heard the "sex has first anal sex with bf, her anus rips, she shits the bed, they blame the dog, father shoots the dog"-story from completely independent people all over Germany, I could buy a family-sized pizza and a coke. There have actually been people who have been caught red-handed fucking animals. There's also the example that you can go to rural societies abroad and just talk to them about it.There was a documentary about donkey fucking in South America I recall being linked on tl years ago. It's a relatively recent taboo now we don't actually spend any time with animals but when your great grandparents were answering Kinsey's questions in the 40s they admitted they did it too.
Edit: Plexa linked it above
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On June 14 2013 16:01 Orangered wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 16:00 TOCHMY wrote: I've not much experience with beastiality... But I don't see why it should not be illegal The issue is why need to legislate at all? Is it that mainstream in your country? not at all which is probably why it hasnt been made illegal until now.
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On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote: more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole. I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people. According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it.
Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely.
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United States42186 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:31 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote: more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole. I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people. According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it. Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely. Well we have the farmer and the pig. The farmer seems up for it because he's doing it and the pig isn't a person. How is my concept of harming other people flawed in this case because I honestly don't see any other people in a coupling between a farmer and a pig?
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On June 14 2013 22:31 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:16 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2013 22:04 Mauldo wrote: more important than the pig's inherent and natural right not to have a farmer's dick shoved into its asshole. I simply don't recognise that as being a thing, I disagree with it and choose not to do it but I disagree with a great many things. I just don't want to use the law as a weapon to force those I disagree with not to do things that don't harm other people. According to your personal concept of "harm to other people". Other people have different concept of "harm to other people" and theirs can easily support this ban while using the same logic that you use to oppose it. Harm to other people is for example vague in terms how far do you go in the causal link of action and consequence. You seem to consider only very immediate harm, others might consider consequences further down the line, purely statistical consequences or consider consequences that are less likely. It's not his personal concept.
You really think any legal system could function without established conceptions of harm and tests of causation?
There's a reason only immediate harm is considered, because we need to justify sanctioning a human by depriving him of his liberty. Taking into account things like statistical harm is the kind of reasoning that leads to horribly disproportionate laws like the UK's imprisonment for public protection in 03.
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Don't really see bestiality as animal abuse per se depending on the situation. Fucking animals can definitely be argued as a form of cruelty, but getting fucked by an animal is a different, so long as the animal itself doesn't get hurt in the process. And even if it does, you can always point out the fact that we kill thousands upon thousands of animals for no real reason other than to overconsume, so there's a bit of a double standard going on here.
Still doesn't make it any less of a fucking weird fetish though.
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I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.
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On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote: I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about.
I'm gonna show the news post to all my friends who what Sweden is about.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote: I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about. And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner....
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On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote: I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about. And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner.... OMG the new TL race based horses.....
I GET IT NOW !!!!
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On June 14 2013 22:44 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote: I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about. And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner.... OMG the new TL race based horses..... I GET IT NOW !!!!
Horses and elephants..I think TL wants the D -joke is waiting to be made here?
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They lost their right to get fucked in the ass by a horse. But they never had the right to fuck a pig in the ass. Thats just mean.
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On June 14 2013 22:46 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 22:44 S_SienZ wrote:On June 14 2013 22:42 Plexa wrote:On June 14 2013 22:39 Integra wrote: I'm gonna show this thread to all my friends who wonders what TL.Net is about. And the next time someone asks why there are horses in the banner.... OMG the new TL race based horses..... I GET IT NOW !!!! Horses and elephants..I think TL wants the D -joke is waiting to be made here? Which is why EG bought the D to force TL to partner up for proleague.
Dum dum dummmmmmmmm
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Whether it's legal or not doesn't matter to me. Though I think it would be dangerous to go around arresting people who are involved sexually with an animal and not physically harming it, no matter how disgusting it might be to the majority of people. To me that sounds similar to banning gay sex. There are differences of course, but still..
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On June 14 2013 22:48 Thor.Rush wrote: Whether it's legal or not doesn't matter to me. Though I think it would be dangerous to go around arresting people who are involved sexually with an animal and not physically harming it, no matter how disgusting it might be to the majority of people. To me that sounds similar to banning gay sex. There are differences of course, but still.. I think one big difference is consent. And its really offensive to draw the comparison you just did :/
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e: Eh not very funny need to sleep
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I was going to put the horse action on our women because I thought that there was no way that a man would risk placing his junk behind a horse. In fact you should not be behind a horse at all. Those motherfuckers can kick, I tell you. But then I saw that there are brave men in the world that does donkeys.
Just keep away from the rear of the hoof walkers, m'kay?
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