EPTThis was an act of terror by two disillusioned religious followers. The next few days will be interesting to see some reactions, none more so than the almost certain marches of the English defense league who shall be making a lot of noise.
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TriZen
England219 Posts
This was an act of terror by two disillusioned religious followers. The next few days will be interesting to see some reactions, none more so than the almost certain marches of the English defense league who shall be making a lot of noise. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:43 Warlock40 wrote: I would think this constitutes terrorism, since it was an act of violence with political motives. But I guess there's a distinction between terrorism and terror these days, right? The whole "War on Terror" thing has made this stuff really confusing. Establishing motive at this juncture is practically impossible, as we simply do not know enough about the perpetrators. Given that this looks to be isolated, uncoordinated, and nominally ineffective, the potential for political motivation seems rather less than the alternative, that being the simple desire to commit violent and heinous acts in the public space. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:46 farvacola wrote: Establishing motive at this juncture is practically impossible, as we simply do not know enough about the perpetrators. Given that this looks to be isolated, uncoordinated, and nominally ineffective, the potential for political motivation seems rather less than the alternative, that being the simple desire to commit violent and heinous acts in the public space. Thats the sort of incident that AQ has been encouraging people to do rather than organised terror attacks as it is much easier to succeed. | ||
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Magic_Mike
United States542 Posts
Giving them all this face time and discussing their motives is doing what they want and is only going to motivate more extremists (regardless of what they are actually extreme for). People will see that these people killed someone and as a result got to have their say. Got to put the message that they wanted to hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
The spine-breaking bends some people will undertake to not look at what's right in front of their eyes. Geez. Get back in your scoliosis brace farv, you're hurting yourself. User was warned for this post | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:48 Zaros wrote: Thats the sort of incident that AQ has been encouraging people to do rather than organised terror attacks as it is much easier to succeed. That may be, and yet we still need to know more about the perpetrators before we can truly label this an act of terrorism. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
People die all the time, what do you want him to say? It's a glib comment, but the implication is a valid critique on media coverage and personal perspective. | ||
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
Gruesome as this is, at least these people didn't target civilians in the area. | ||
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Obstikal
616 Posts
edit: this shit happens every day every where I don't understand why this is receiving so much coverage. People are killed everyday. Yeah it sucks and it sucks even more that it was a soldier but why the publicity? | ||
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:49 DeepElemBlues wrote: They shouted Allahu Ackbar because that's what Muslim jihadis yell when they're doing jihad. The spine-breaking bends some people will undertake to not look at what's right in front of their eyes. Geez. Get back in your scoliosis brace farv, you're hurting yourself. Because it is impossible for crazies to yell whatever the fuck they want after they've spilt blood? Get back to your Anti-Islamic neckbrace Deb, you're craning a bit too much. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:50 K_Dilkington wrote: I'm extremely tired of Islamic fundamentalists, if they don't like it here in the west, why don't they move to a Islamic country? I believe that sir, is the $1million question. Why complain about a countries laws and beliefs whilst living there? Makes no sense >.< | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:49 EatThePath wrote: People die all the time, what do you want him to say? It's a glib comment, but the implication is a valid critique on media coverage and personal perspective. People don't usually die from getting dismembered in the middle of London by someone who is also shouting a phrase often used by Islamic extremists. It's not a national state of emergency, but neither is it trivial. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:51 Pandemona wrote: I believe that sir, is the $1million question. Why complain about countries laws and beliefs whilst living there? Makes no sense >.< Because they aren't right upstairs. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
Is GWBush now in charge of UK? | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:45 TriZen wrote: I don't think its too strong to label this an act of terror, that is what it is. Even the Prime Minister called it this. Too hard to fix a problem like this one though, the two men clearly have strong accents showing that they are not from elsewhere even though they refer to the countries leaders as "yours" and not ours. This was an act of terror by two disillusioned religious followers. The next few days will be interesting to see some reactions, none more so than the almost certain marches of the English defense league who shall be making a lot of noise. And I cant blame them. Funny how all of them are misunderstanders of islam. You would think that sooner or later people gonna wake up and think how can it be that there are so many misunderstanders within that specific relgion. | ||
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soon.Cloak
United States983 Posts
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soon.Cloak
United States983 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:49 EatThePath wrote: People die all the time, what do you want him to say? It's a glib comment, but the implication is a valid critique on media coverage and personal perspective. "People die all the time". So now murder should be treated like a regular death? The implication is that soldiers are equal to murderers. That's valid to you? And aside from all of that, being right doesn't make you any less insensitive. If your parents got killed, it would be insensitive to tell you that they deserved it, even if they did. So "What we want him ti say" is that it's sad, and if he feels anything else, he can keep that to himself. Seriously... | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32164 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:49 DeepElemBlues wrote: They shouted Allahu Ackbar because that's what Muslim jihadis yell when they're doing jihad. The spine-breaking bends some people will undertake to not look at what's right in front of their eyes. Geez. Get back in your scoliosis brace farv, you're hurting yourself. assume two independent muslim arab dudes in idaho, with absolutely no connections to any groups but believing in the ideology behind alquida or whatever, do this same attack and yell out allahu ackbar terrorists or not and why same situation, but the two christian dudes, doing it as a stand against abortion. terrorists or not? im just trying to understand what is the line here. Having a political motive? Being of a certain race/religion? Is general frustration and wanting to go out with your finger up to the world the same as doing it with the intention of scaring everyone into your way of thinking? | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:51 Pandemona wrote: I believe that sir, is the $1million question. Why complain about countries laws and beliefs whilst living there? Makes no sense >.< Better economy, and welfare. | ||
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