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Please attempt to distinguish between extremists and non extremists to avoid starting the inevitable waste of time that is "can Islam be judged by its believers?" - KwarK
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2638 Posts
May 22 2013 18:30 GMT
#21
An act of terror is a crime motivated by a desire to instill fear into people.

Which would clearly be the motive here. So it's the correct designation.
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czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
May 22 2013 18:31 GMT
#22
On May 23 2013 03:28 Asshat wrote:
Seems like every criminal act performed by a muslim is called an act of terror these days. From massive attacks with explosives, killing sprees, to isolated assaults/murders performed by random lunatics such as this case. No holds barred.


well when you're screaming Allah Ahkbar(god is great) w/ every terror act, it's not exactly helping the image of the religion. Granted if you're muslim, you'd know that it's a common saying, but it IS kind of sticking it to the people that are killed.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 22 2013 18:32 GMT
#23
They should be executed in the most painful manner possible.
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
May 22 2013 18:33 GMT
#24
Not sure I would have hung around to get a video interview with the attacker!
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32078 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:36:36
May 22 2013 18:34 GMT
#25
On May 23 2013 03:28 Asshat wrote:
Seems like every criminal act performed by a muslim is called an act of terror these days. From massive attacks with explosives, killing sprees, to isolated assaults/murders performed by random lunatics such as this case. No holds barred.

this gets tossed about a bit but i cant ever seem to think of instances where this happened. can you?

i agree this might stretch the definition of terror a bit, since i think you really need to be a part of an organization to be a terrorist, or at least have to done (or planned to do) several types of attacks with the intended goal of terrorizing a population to achieve a poltical agenda. otherwise youre a crazy dude who tried to kill people

On May 23 2013 03:30 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
An act of terror is a crime motivated by a desire to instill fear into people.

Which would clearly be the motive here. So it's the correct designation.

i get what he is getting at to a degree

it's pretty vague on those terms. a wise guy pressuing dudes into giving him money isnt a terrorist in my mind, but he would be by that defintion.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:36:33
May 22 2013 18:35 GMT
#26
I think terror attack is a little loose in this title. The title made me very nervous that something awful has happened on the magnitude of bombings/mass shootings/etc. I was expecting more than 1 man being a victim of a brutal stabbing by the title. Unfortunate event to happen to this poor man, totally savage.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 22 2013 18:35 GMT
#27
I'd guess they were on PCP, but then they wouldn't have gone down as quickly as they did.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 22 2013 18:36 GMT
#28
So he kills one guy and stays round talking to people? That's what the video seemed like anyway. Also, where's the machete? The narrator in the video said he had a knife and machete, I see just two knives.

I'm not sure what defines a terrorist attack anymore. If I brutally stab a single person and shout Jesus is great - that would not be called a terror attack, I'd rather be labeled a crazy extremist most likely targeting one individual for personal reasons.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 22 2013 18:37 GMT
#29
On May 23 2013 03:20 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Really shitty thing to happen to anyone.

But isn't "terror attack" a bit strong.....?


Yeah i pm'd a mod to change it, i did realize that too >.<
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
May 22 2013 18:37 GMT
#30
For better or for worse, you can bet the public response would have been different here in the US. Not that I am by any means suggesting that our public view of justice is in any way superior, but I could easily see these men being taken down by random passerby almost immediately.
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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
May 22 2013 18:38 GMT
#31
Sad but I do not see how this is a "terror attack".
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 22 2013 18:39 GMT
#32
On May 23 2013 03:26 HaRuHi wrote:
So random guy kills guy that is paid to kill. What an outrage...


Some people say stupid shit. You're one of them, how the hell can you be that disrespectful to a military soldier? Wow ..


Anyway that's a pretty disgusting attack, some people are really just .. eh I can't believe some people, really. thoughts go towards the soldier and his family
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
May 22 2013 18:39 GMT
#33
This doesnt seem like a terrorist attack at all.. Just a random isolated or rather not so much incident of 2 guys killing a man and just because they shouted words of their religion doesn't mean they are terrorists or it was a terror attack.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:40:10
May 22 2013 18:39 GMT
#34
On May 23 2013 03:37 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 03:20 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Really shitty thing to happen to anyone.

But isn't "terror attack" a bit strong.....?


Yeah i pm'd a mod to change it, i did realize that too >.<

unfortunately I feel like the terminology is kind of grey. "terror attack" is a really broad stroke, although this attack seems designed to "instill fear" which meets that requirement. I think the connotation is just miscronstrued because the assumed imagery of a terror attack is something large scale? just an interesting unfolding of the term.

edit for spelling
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
May 22 2013 18:40 GMT
#35
Crazy people and crazy religions.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:43:14
May 22 2013 18:41 GMT
#36
On May 23 2013 03:32 AnomalySC2 wrote:
They should be executed in the most painful manner possible.


I'm gonna disagree on that point. The Brits won't lower their entire society just to grasp at some notion of justice.

On May 23 2013 03:37 farvacola wrote:
For better or for worse, you can bet the public response would have been different here in the US. Not that I am by any means suggesting that our public view of justice is in any way superior, but I could easily see these men being taken down by random passerby almost immediately.


From what I understand random passerby in England aren't as well armed as the random passerby in the States.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 22 2013 18:41 GMT
#37
wtf?!

horrible thing to happen, but certainly no terrorist attack in my eyes.... just some deranged, psychopathic fucker that freaked out.
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Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
May 22 2013 18:41 GMT
#38
On May 23 2013 03:32 AnomalySC2 wrote:
They should be executed in the most painful manner possible.


Does nothing but show your own degree of inhumanity.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 22 2013 18:42 GMT
#39
Random act of ultra violence.
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
May 22 2013 18:43 GMT
#40
I would think this constitutes terrorism, since it was an act of violence with political motives. But I guess there's a distinction between terrorism and terror these days, right? The whole "War on Terror" thing has made this stuff really confusing.
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