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1. You are paying for 95% of all expenses! - In the modern world today, woman are fighting for equal rights and quality of treatment but this is one thing they are very fine with being not equal. You pay, and they crave. If your outings together consists of you spending most of everything and she hardly volunteers on paying anything, pull out of it early unless you happen to be closely related to Mr. Gates. A good male to female paying ratio is anywhere between 60:40 as a minimum to serve your lady to a maximum healthy limit of 80:20. If it exceeds this she's not serious about this relationship. She can spend on many things but not even 20% split on your outings - TIME TO BOOT HER.
2. She hesitates to buy something she obviously wanted when she realizes you are not able to pay for it there and then! - Talk about being ridiculous, this is one of those that tops the list. She wanted to buy something she likes. You saw how much she liked it and as a loving guy, you said, "Honey just go buy it I'll pay for it!" She leaps with joy and treasures you that split second for doing that. Then you realized you haven't the cold, hard cash with you there and then OR you haven't the cards with you. You tell her, "Hey I'll pay you back later when we past that ATM after this." All of a sudden, she lost her interest in buying. She says "It's ok, I don't really want to buy it." You start to ask what happen? She continues in that lame excuse that she really isn't interested to buy that anymore. The cold truth is, she's needs you to pay up first to spare her the worry that you forgot to "pay" her back seeing that it isn't nice to ask about it even if you forget. Make a guess her worth of your time?
3. Often hesitating to buy anything until you volunteer to pay for it. - As bad as the last case, she will shop around and walk around and looking carefully at a few pieces of apparels and goods she likes and she seems to be taking a very long time to choose but in essence, she's merely waiting for you to realize the need to volunteer to pay for it upon catching a glimpse of her hesitation. There isn't much to say about this as it pretty much speaks for itself. Certainly, once or twice a blue moon is surely fine. But if many of these signs are happening way too frequently, I hope you won't be an idiot and stubbornly believe she don't mean it.
4. Her number 1 priority = Shopping, all the time. - Shopping is not really an evil activity until it starts to affect your relationship in a significant way. You both are busy and working. You meet up once or twice a week and everytime you meet. Shopping seems to be the primary modus operandi. Whether there was a quarrel before that or there are things to be talked about, she seems to slip into the shopping mode once she sees you. Oblivious of any other weighty issues at hand. Because buying and purchasing is her number 1 priority. You can't really change her because she probably build this value since young and it'll be hard to change. Your choice is to live with it or get a life of your own!
5. Usually an idiot in the financial sense - As a general observation, a material girl usually has lesse concept of money than one that is not so material. There can be many reasons to this but primarily, it can be attributed to the fact that material possessions are so important to them, they are willing to forego that high additional cost for that low marginal benefit, thus making them totally unable to think strongly in the economic sense of situations. You can also expect these girls to have little or almost no savings, and even if they do, they are constantly using it up once every few months. They will only taper down that kind of behaviour when they are absolutely broke. And when they have a little savings, there they go again. Live with that? No way guys.
6. Look out for starting symptoms - During the first few dates, one should imagine these signs should not be conspicuous but look carefully and you will still find there are manifestations of that behaviour. Could it be a slight quietness over the date once she had to pay for one particular dinner? Or accusing you of not being a gentlemen when she had to pay for a thing or 2 once every 3 or 4 dates? Or maybe when she had to go to the counter and pay for a pair of shoes she really wanted but you did not volunteer your wallet she becomes extremely quiet for the remaining of the outing? These are all suttle signs although they can be non-conclusive but you will start looking out for that facet soon.
7. "Oh please help me take this one." - After a while, she uses this method to get you to pay, non-voluntarily! How does it work? Simple, she has chosen her apparel and ask you to help her hold that... Slowly and but surely, you realize there will be some reason why you are holding it and queuing up on the cashier line while she is still looking around at the store. Again, once or twice a blue moon it's fine. Don't stay an idiot and buy this excuse again and again.
8. The NON-Scientific comparison - Very often, when you talk to her about her spending habits and materialism, she will compare you with her friend's boyfriends or even a passerby who seemed sweet to her girl. You think to yourself, oh man, am I really such a cheapskate and make life difficult for my beloved girl seeing that now she's out-comparing you to other guys. Oh but wait, you have been paying for that weekly movies amounting to US$20/- and that transport US$50/- everywhere you go. Above and beyond that, Almost monthly, you spend an extra US100/- odd on her apparels, shoes and you aren't even able to save much yourself. During anniversaries and important days, you never fail to get her desired gifts that costs a few hundred bucks. Perhaps she even know your financial difficulties but she continues to take this matter in an almost comical pace (since she herself has no concept of money). You get upset because all she's comparing is a load of rubbish and the moral of the story is simply she isn't contented with you. With your level of financial committment to her! There is only one way this girl can survive on earth - Get a rich husband. She can never behave like a human being or make sane comparisons in a life without a certain level of material.
9. She accepts expensive gifts from other guys - Need any explanation on this? Yes, we all know there isn't a need to explain this. But you will be amazed sometimes she will act like she didn't think there is anything wrong at all about this. Another guy at her workplace buys her a diamond ring worth US$2000/- and says it's just a token of "friendship" and "appreciation" for her birthday. She forces herself to believe it's nothing special and it's purely plutonic and accepts the gift and keeps it, maybe sometimes even from your knowledge. Why? Because this is what she is, a M-A-T-E-R-I-A-L G-I-R-L.
10. When she isn't with you - This is the best time to tell more about her. At least when she's with you, she had not much of a choice but to exercise some control over spending but once you aren't with her. Well, it's all back to square one. All the things you don't wish to see her do or spend, it's all done. She will still give excuses she needs this, she needs that. But basically, this is what she has always wanted to have and do. Need? What is a need in the human world. For me it's just 3 things - Food, shelter, and relationships. For a Material girl, her needs transcends traditional definitions by 10 octaves to an extend many of us will only call their needs a luxury. But still, days and months of arguing or debating will not change her mind on what is a luxury and what is a need.
These are the 10 signs that points us to a material girl. Yes one or two manifestations of these symptoms don't necessary mean she's materialistic but when you see more and more of these signs appearing and you refuse to believe it for what it is - We can only hope your relationship will still be blessed. It's a sad thing in life when rotteness fills the veins and hearts and intents and there are people who refuse to see it and give it a standing ovation. Wake up to reality.
- Peter Edinburg, From "The grateful Dog"
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Why did you post this - from personal experience?
Too many guys are insecure about their own personality and therefore feel they have to show their caring through material goods. Girls catch on that they can get free stuff, so why shouldn't they abuse it to the max? It's the "+ev" thing to do. Therefore, you should make it clear from the get-go that you are not interested in that kind of relationship. There are girls out there who think "splitting" the first date is a "deal-breaker". Fuck those women, and simply search harder instead of allowing yourself to slip into a relationship that will ultimately be a wallet-breaker.
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On June 30 2006 02:25 exalted wrote:
Why did you post this - from personal experience?
This is from an article I found at my college archives. I somewhat agree with it to a large extent especially some of the points like 3 and 9. If you feel they are not true, which one(s)? Bear in mind the title is "10 signs of a material girl". Not "10 signs all girls are material". There's no attempt to vomit any bitter pill on bad experiences. But it's true. I'm not sure if this will be the same question if I posted "10 signs of a good girl."?
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i keep the 60:40 ratio, its pretty healthy, for example, i pay the tickets if we go to the movies but often ill ask for some popcorn and she usually buys them.
If we have a quick meal ill often pay it, sometimes we split, but buying shoes and stuff when its not her birthday or something is just fucked up, its your gf not your wife!
First of all, who in the hell goes with their gfs shopping? how gay is that, and even if somehow she convinced you your job as a boyfriend is to bitch and constantly ask "can we go to the fast food section now?" ever 5 minutes... paying for shoes? WTF?!?!
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nicely said exalted nicely said
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that would suck if anyones in that position stated
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your problem is... you're putting the pu**y on a pedestal
Spend how much you think is right to spend! THere's no rule. It doesn't matter if she's material or not as long as she accepts what you give her.
i.e. I have a friend who loves spending on his girlfriend. He thinks it's noble. He also goes shopping with her.
on the other hand, I also have a friend who would not spend a DIME on a chick.
Both get the same amount of bedroom time.
You will find the type of girl you're comfortable with... eventually... and that's all that matters. Not all women are the same and THANK GOD FOR THAT. Nothing wrong with being a "material girl" as long as you're goin gout with a "material boy".
Judge not.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
you know whats funny, girls will fuck you if you're rich even if you don't spend a dime on them
but, you can't hold being materialistic against a girl, i mean fuck, u only go out with a girl cuz she looks good
same same
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On June 30 2006 03:02 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
your problem is... you're putting the pu**y on a pedestal
Spend how much you think is right to spend! THere's no rule. It doesn't matter if she's material or not as long as she accepts what you give her.
i.e. I have a friend who loves spending on his girlfriend. He thinks it's noble. He also goes shopping with her.
on the other hand, I also have a friend who would not spend a DIME on a chick.
Both get the same amount of bedroom time.
You will find the type of girl you're comfortable with... eventually... and that's all that matters. Not all women are the same and THANK GOD FOR THAT. Nothing wrong with being a "material girl" as long as you're goin gout with a "material boy".
Judge not.
No judging. Just analyzing... Either case, are you ok with no. 9? 
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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On June 30 2006 04:00 Rekrul wrote:
ROFL SO TRUE
ROFL
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
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lol
Says: I want a man who is motivated and has goals.
Means: I want a rich man
Says: I want a man who knows how to treat a woman.
Means: I want a rich man
Says: He's from a really good family.
Means: He's from a really rich family.
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United Kingdom10597 Posts
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i'm underrolled to have a gf, but i agree with baal. a present now and then is ok, but i won't pay anything she asks for.
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I dated one girl for a little bit and one day at like 11 AM I am going home and we are walking and we go into this store. She's looking around while I'm on the phone. She picked out two outfits and put them on the sales counter. I was on the phone and she's like "DAN COME HERE!" I suddenly read her and I just FELT she wanted me to pay for her shit. Sure I'll buy a girl some stuff but it will be my gift to her, not something she's telling me to do. Anyways I ignored her and she just stood there then signaled me over. She was like "HEY DAN O MANWON" ($50 equivalent) and I was like what the hell?
She then fluttered her eyes and was like "HEY!!! O MANWON !!!" And I was like "WTF??? You want me to pay for your shit right now? You pay for it yourself." She then gave me a snotty look and grabbed the clothes and threw them on the ground. Then I called her a money hungry bitch and walked out. That was the end of her.
I guess it's like that all over the world. You can find plenty of nice normal girls, but also some crazy stuck-up ones. But in general, Korean girls are far less egotistical and stuck-up than American girls. Plus in Korea they are all thin and don't think they are the shit because of it. You have no idea how many girls I have seen in the USA since I've been back, strutting around with a shirt that doesn't quite reach their pants and they have a big gut sticking out yet they still strut their shit like they are the shit. It's so irritating haha.
wait a minute, this has nothing to do with the topic at all
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Tucker Max said once that ladder theory was bullshit.
People who know chicks pretty well have said the opposite.
I think there's a debate here but ultimately I'm gonna go with Tucker's opinion.
Except with whores/stupid chicks/dumb bitches in general. Ladder theory 100% applies to them.
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On June 30 2006 06:11 QuietIdiot wrote:Show nested quote +I dated one girl for a little bit and one day at like 11 AM I am going home and we are walking and we go into this store. She's looking around while I'm on the phone. She picked out two outfits and put them on the sales counter. I was on the phone and she's like "DAN COME HERE!" I suddenly read her and I just FELT she wanted me to pay for her shit. Sure I'll buy a girl some stuff but it will be my gift to her, not something she's telling me to do. Anyways I ignored her and she just stood there then signaled me over. She was like "HEY DAN O MANWON" ($50 equivalent) and I was like what the hell?
She then fluttered her eyes and was like "HEY!!! O MANWON !!!" And I was like "WTF??? You want me to pay for your shit right now? You pay for it yourself." She then gave me a snotty look and grabbed the clothes and threw them on the ground. Then I called her a money hungry bitch and walked out. That was the end of her.
I guess it's like that all over the world. You can find plenty of nice normal girls, but also some crazy stuck-up ones. But in general, Korean girls are far less egotistical and stuck-up than American girls. Plus in Korea they are all thin and don't think they are the shit because of it. You have no idea how many girls I have seen in the USA since I've been back, strutting around with a shirt that doesn't quite reach their pants and they have a big gut sticking out yet they still strut their shit like they are the shit. It's so irritating haha. wait a minute, this has nothing to do with the topic at all
This is either a terribly crafted joke or you need to read the topic post again, and again, and again untill you see how wrong that was.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i think it was a good joke, lol
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ladder theory applies to whores.. i agree... there are women out there with enough brains to realise that beauty is only skin deep. No ever lasting relationship has been made on material things (beauty, riches etc.)
But 'tis all funny! And if you take any of this shit serious go out and get laid and u wont care anymore.
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On June 30 2006 22:46 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
ladder theory applies to whores.. i agree... there are women out there with enough brains to realise that beauty is only skin deep. No ever lasting relationship has been made on material things (beauty, riches etc.)
But 'tis all funny! And if you take any of this shit serious go out and get laid and u wont care anymore.
The Ladder Theory only applies at certain points. A lot of it is bullshit, but there are some truths to it. Girls DO have a fuck ladder and a friend ladder, so do guys, but the friend ladder is a lot less cluttered. I definitely have female friends that I have no intention of ever having sex with. At the same time, I have female friends I'd like to fuck (most of them).
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One time a couple broke up because the wife kept buying items for their baby.
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Norway10161 Posts
Haha what kind of looser whould actually date a girl like this;)
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TKWL.... you would cry when you saw how many Koreans are tools....
Oh ... my race of men can be such scrubs...
At least I'm here to carry their torch.......spineless fuckers.
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Netherlands19133 Posts
It's all about dutch treat.
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Ya the ladder theory is alot of bullshit, but it's easily believable and I'm sure alot of younger males find it "cool" because they are so insecure about thenselves and need something to justify why girls don't want them.
Sure some aspects of the "ladder" applies to real life but it's just too extreme and there's an undertone of disgust for women in general which I don't like.
It's like assuming women are stupid, manipulative, horrible creatures, which of course isn't true. (or is it?)
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On July 01 2006 05:35 Eagleheart wrote:
Ya the ladder theory is alot of bullshit, but it's easily believable and I'm sure alot of younger males find it "cool" because they are so insecure about thenselves and need something to justify why girls don't want them.
Sure some aspects of the "ladder" applies to real life but it's just too extreme and there's an undertone of disgust for women in general which I don't like.
It's like assuming women are stupid, manipulative, horrible creatures, which of course isn't true.
Aye! The worst poison is often not served in it's nakedness but mixed with savoury tonics.
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its a nice warning. I wouldthink asian girls do this less =/ hence I am asian.
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On July 01 2006 05:47 DarkYoDA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2006 05:35 Eagleheart wrote:
Ya the ladder theory is alot of bullshit, but it's easily believable and I'm sure alot of younger males find it "cool" because they are so insecure about thenselves and need something to justify why girls don't want them.
Sure some aspects of the "ladder" applies to real life but it's just too extreme and there's an undertone of disgust for women in general which I don't like.
It's like assuming women are stupid, manipulative, horrible creatures, which of course isn't true. Aye! The worst poison is often not served in it's nakedness but mixed with savoury tonics.
Haha
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lol, now im scared of dating a girl
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Suburban upper-middle class American born white girl is usually the best "sign" of a material girl. Hell, that's usually the epitome of materialism itself.
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On July 01 2006 10:11 map18 wrote:
lol, now im scared of dating a girl
That's not my intention of posting this thread..  Most girls are ok. These are some exceptions I'm just thinking they are definitely around on planet earth. Most of them will still want to experience what true love is and they can't be a bitch their whole life even if they are materialistic but sometimes you may end up the victim of their learning process in life.
Those who are bitches their entire lives are rare so let's no go into that one. Hopefully this just helps to serve as a mini-signal indication in case you get too disillusioned or shocked such things actually do happen.
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On July 01 2006 11:56 DarkYoDA wrote:That's not my intention of posting this thread.. Most girls are ok. These are some exceptions I'm just thinking they are definitely around on planet earth. Most of them will still want to experience what true love is and they can't be a bitch their whole life even if they are materialistic but sometimes you may end up the victim of their learning process in life. Those who are bitches their entire lives are rare so let's no go into that one. Hopefully this just helps to serve as a mini-signal indication in case you get too disillusioned or shocked such things actually do happen.
i know, ever wonder y celebrities break up so much? and recent beatle split with heather could cost him billions in divorce, lol.
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word of advice if ur rich or will be rich, dont find a hot blonde bitch with big ass boobs/ass, i guarantee u, she will go for ur money, its better to get a ok looking caring chick.
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