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Pope Benedict XVI to resign - Page 4
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Alright, enough religious debate. If you want to talk about Pope Benedict and what he specifically did or didn't do, go ahead. But no more general discussion on the merits or ills of the Catholic church or their history. -page 12 | ||
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shadymmj
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for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Saumure
France404 Posts
On February 11 2013 20:05 ELA wrote: According to an Italian news agency ANSA, Pope Benedict XVI, head of the Catholic religion is stepping down from office. I am pretty sure he is the head of the catholic chruch. On February 11 2013 20:14 Bleak wrote: Brace yourselves. Darth Ratzinger is going to reveal his true self and declare that he is a Sith Lord. + Show Spoiler + Isn't it beautiful how you can make such videos about the pope without any ambassador dying? | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:58 shadymmj wrote: this thread is disgusting. feel free to make a new "we hate the church" thread and stand on your moral pedestal there. seriously, i didn't even know how a starcraft site becomes a breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments. for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. From what I read there are as many believers as non believers in this thread. TL is a discussion site. If you only want to discuss with people who share your opinion you might look for another site for that. Why don't you try to make others see your opinion instead of saying this thread is disgusting. | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:30 MasterOfPuppets wrote: How is he a bigot for pointing out the evident reality? If anything, you are the delusional one. Sports teachers are generally people with quite poor education and/or intellect, people who otherwise would've not become much. Meanwhile, priests are supposed to be the servants of God, they're supposed to be purer, kinder and wiser than the average bloke, and yet it is the church that is one of the most corrupt and despicable systems currently operating. And to reference what KwarK said, how can you compare a sports teacher with barely any education to the man that is supposed to be the highest exponent of God's power, God's presence on this Earth? Which makes it all the more outrageous that the latter, not the former, would be personally involved in covering up the wrong-doings and child molestation of the catholic church. You're being irrationally butthurt, my dear poster. I'm sorry, but seriously... you are talking about child molestation, and not only do you call someone butt hurt as if you couldn't come up with anything less obnoxious to write, but your quote is I love lolicon... I mean... I couldn't make this up. personally this does not affect me, globally I am sure it will have some impact. but like any presidential election, I see this more as a time to get a new face, not new policies. changes in policies are slow and rarely impacted by a new mascot. (ex 2nd obama term, still in the middle east promise what you want but don't expect results) | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:58 shadymmj wrote: this thread is disgusting. feel free to make a new "we hate the church" thread and stand on your moral pedestal there. seriously, i didn't even know how a starcraft site becomes a breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments. for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. I could list quite a few things he said and did that are more disgusting than anything in this thread. It's part of who he was as a pope and of course it'll be talked about. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:58 shadymmj wrote: this thread is disgusting. feel free to make a new "we hate the church" thread and stand on your moral pedestal there. seriously, i didn't even know how a starcraft site becomes a breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments. for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. Maybe it has to do with how many people the pope has pissed off with extremist and outdated views. In the ordinary world we would call such a person insane but unfortunately the pope does not live in the ordinary world. He lives in a microcosm built up on delusions and bullshit which we call the Vatican. Well, at least the place looks nice. And if you don't know why so many people are legitimately pissed off at the organization, here's a video covering just a few reasons. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:06 shadymmj wrote: yes, but there's very little discussion ongoing about the actual news here. Well he's gonna retire. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hope his health issues aren't making him suffer too much, other than that I don't care that he's gone. If anything I'm happy about it. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:05 DarkLordOlli wrote: I could list quite a few things he said and did that are more disgusting than anything in this thread. It's part of who he was as a pope and of course it'll be talked about. please do, as long as you have widely accepted proof of your claims. oh let's keep it to the pope and not the church as a whole. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:08 shadymmj wrote: please do, as long as you have widely accepted proof of your claims. oh let's keep it to the pope and not the church as a whole. Paraphrasing: "condoms will send you to hell". That certainly helped AIDS, right? I'll be looking into more later if I feel like it, am at work right now so won't be doing too much research atm. All I know is he said some ridiculous things + was personally involved in trying to cover up child abuse within the church. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:02 Saumure wrote: Isn't it beautiful how you can make such videos about the pope without any ambassador dying? This. A thousand times.... You'll piss off people, but it won't end by a rocket shot at an embassy... On February 11 2013 21:58 shadymmj wrote: this thread is disgusting. feel free to make a new "we hate the church" thread and stand on your moral pedestal there. seriously, i didn't even know how a starcraft site becomes a breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments. for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. I usually consider myself a believer, if not a christian (but not "attached" to a community like the catholics, orthodox, you name it), but can't deny the fact he said truly horrible things... But I think it's good to emphasize on the fact that a lot of christian actually DON'T think the same way and have evolved, living while following the principle present mostly in the new testament, which are quite respectable when they talk about helping the poor and promote peace (in my opinion), and actually disagree with, for example, the disgusting protest we had in France the 13th January, protesting against gay marriage. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:58 shadymmj wrote: this thread is disgusting. feel free to make a new "we hate the church" thread and stand on your moral pedestal there. seriously, i didn't even know how a starcraft site becomes a breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments. for other sane onlookers, let's just discuss this surprising decision by a very influential (but ordinary) man. Not that I care much for the way some in this thread has chosen to word their opinions I'd say that I care less for yours. This isn't some "breeding ground for anti-papal sentiments". Take a step back and look at their sentiments, maybe you'll find they are rational. I agree that some of it doesn't belong in this thread, but in my opinion this is not the way to address it. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: Paraphrasing: "condoms will send you to hell". That certainly helped AIDS, right? that's a ridiculous paraphrase and you know it. look, i agree with your sentiments on condom use, but no, afaik, commiting a sin will not directly send you to hell. | ||
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Saumure
France404 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:02 Zandar wrote: From what I read there are as many believers as non believers in this thread. TL is a discussion site. If you only want to discuss with people who share your opinion you might look for another site for that. Why don't you try to make others see your opinion instead of saying this thread is disgusting. Just from the first page: On February 11 2013 20:19 llIH wrote: Wish for a more educated Pope next time. On February 11 2013 20:15 sertas wrote: so why doesnt god just give him strength to continue? Something is fishy here On February 11 2013 20:51 ButtCraft wrote: Because he grew a conscience Very nice discussion we are having here... basically ITT: atheist bashing catholic church, beeing mad they can't do the same about ismal or judaism as they don't want to be considered as racists. | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
Not a big fan of the religion but I think his resignation sets a good example of his successors: this an important enough job that requires someone with the stamina. Where's your god when you need the strength to carry on with your duties hmmm? | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:11 Saumure wrote: Just from the first page: Very nice discussion we are having here... basically ITT: atheist bashing catholic church, beeing mad they can't do the same about ismal or judaism as they don't want to be considered as racists. So defend yourself with proper arguments. | ||
KwarK
United States44367 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:06 shadymmj wrote: yes, but there's very little discussion ongoing about the actual news here. Challenging his failure to address either of the two big issues destroying the credibility of his church and the lack of any real legacy is a valid remark following the end of his reign. Consider it a job review, albeit one leaving a lot of blood on his hands. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 11 2013 22:11 shadymmj wrote: that's a ridiculous paraphrase and you know it. look, i agree with your sentiments on condom use, but no, afaik, commiting a sin will not directly send you to hell. You know what will send you to hell? Trick question, nothing will send you to hell. What DID send some people to living hell though is him telling believers that they shouldn't use condoms when AIDS is a real threat and he's aware of it. Oh right, and anti-homosexuality + anti-abortion. Completely forgot about those. All in all he fucked up. He could've done a lot better but he didn't, the opposite actually. He made the Church's image even worse. He's been pretty much the exact pope he shouldn't have been and there's absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On February 11 2013 21:14 Golden Ghost wrote: Why you are even contemplating he doesn´t have a concience is beyond me. Sure he has his flaws just as any human being and I don´t agree with a lot of the current policies of the Catholic church although I still consider myself a Catholic but I also believe he acts out of his fervent believes of doing good and not an intent to do evil as you seem to be suggesting. Like most leaders of cults. Not sure why people even give this attention tbh. | ||
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