• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:54
CEST 16:54
KST 23:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1791 users

Pope Benedict XVI to resign

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 24 25 26 Next All
Alright, enough religious debate. If you want to talk about Pope Benedict and what he specifically did or didn't do, go ahead. But no more general discussion on the merits or ills of the Catholic church or their history.

-page 12
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 11:55:09
February 11 2013 11:05 GMT
#1
According to an Italian news agency ANSA, Pope Benedict XVI, head of the Catholic religion is stepping down from office.

(Headline google-translated)

The Pope will leave 'from February 28. The announcement in Latin during the consistory for the canonization of the martyrs of Otranto.


The site is being smashed with hits right now, so it's super unstable and I'm unable to get more of the text. (www.ANSA.it)

This is interesting news to me - Im not a catholic, or even religious in any conventional ways, but I was under the impression that a Pope of the Catholic church could only be 'relieved of duty' by God himself (As in his death)?

A Pope stepping down is very very rare - The last case AFAIK, was in 1405, over 600 years ago, and in every case of this, there were some kind of scandal involved (In this particular case, several claimants to the office)

The article link in its full form is here - The site is impossible to reach at this moment though



EDIT - Loose translation of the statement from the Pope which was made in Latin:

"The Pope leaves the papacy from February 28. The announcement was made personally, in Latin, during the consistory for the canonization of the martyrs of Otranto. "A bolt from the blue." With these words, the dean of the College of Cardinals, Cardinal Angelo Sodano said the decision to leave the pontificate of Benedict XVI

The Pope explained to feel the weight of the assignment of the pope, he had long pondered this decision and taking it for the good of the Church.

The pope has shown Feb. 28 for the term of the papacy and demanded that refers to a conclave to elect a successor."


BBC article in english: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304

Exerpt:


"After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.

"I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

"However, in today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.

"For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is."




EDIT#2

I think we should keep the past sins/drama of the catholic church out of this thread - To some people, this news is of spiritual importance and a really important event, lets show our best behaviour guys!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
February 11 2013 11:09 GMT
#2
My guess is health issues, preventing him from fulfilling his duties.

A less serious guess would be that he grew a conscience.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 11:10:57
February 11 2013 11:09 GMT
#3
Just hope a more modern pope with less anti gay and anti condom ideas will replace him, but I don't have high hopes.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
February 11 2013 11:12 GMT
#4
Confirmed by the vatican through reuters, stating he no longer has the strength to fulfill his duties.
(there were already a lot of resignation rumors last year)
Coooot
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 11:16:00
February 11 2013 11:14 GMT
#5
Brace yourselves. Darth Ratzinger is going to reveal his true self and declare that he is a Sith Lord.

+ Show Spoiler +
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
February 11 2013 11:14 GMT
#6
On February 11 2013 20:09 Xpace wrote:
A less serious guess would be that he grew a conscience.



HAHA!

According to a German newspaper he said "I don't have the strength left for this office"
source (German)
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
February 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#7
so why doesnt god just give him strength to continue? Something is fishy here
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#8
Good.

Hopefully they can elect someone who's actually serious about cleaning up the Vatican and moving forward instead of backward. Benedict's old fashioned rhetoric really has made the church look bad since he took office at least in my opinion.

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
lord_nibbler
Profile Joined March 2004
Germany591 Posts
February 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#9
Darkforce = Pope = same person maybe?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#10
Wish for a more educated Pope next time.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 11:24:28
February 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#11
On February 11 2013 20:19 llIH wrote:
Wish for a more educated Pope next time.


Quite sure it won't be the case since if Ratzinger wasn't a PR expert his intellectual work was recognized and he's a really solid theologist. It just doesn't fit with communication, a lot of the mishaps happened because he was speaking to the public in the same way he'd speak with his peers.
For someone who was supposed to be a transparant pope he had some impact, and he didn't embody the worst of the catholic church by far. Still need a bit of cleaning regarding the inner administration but I doubt his successor will be braver on this matter.
Zest fanboy.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
February 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#12
I wish it had to do with a kinda repentance for the thousands of cases of pedo allllllllll these last years, and not just that he's tired.
NoiR
Charlson
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria7 Posts
February 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#13
At least he is reasonable enough to step down before his strenght fully deteriorates.
Wise decision!
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#14
On February 11 2013 20:14 Bleak wrote:
Brace yourselves. Darth Ratzinger is going to reveal his true self and declare that he is a Sith Lord.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmc6tR2V1Vc


That's one of the best palpatine/pope movies I've seen, thanks for sharing :D
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#15
On February 11 2013 20:09 Zandar wrote:
Just hope a more modern pope with less anti gay and anti condom ideas will replace him, but I don't have high hopes.


If such and individual is to be produced, it certainly wont be found within the Vatican, the most corrupt nest of hypocrites, liars, pedophiles and smirking lickspittles on the face of the planet. Personally I vote for Ted Haggard, in the name of epic lulz.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
February 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#16
Really off topic here, but isn't it about time we stop using Roman numerals for good?
화이팅
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#17
This is quite big news. Indeed it's very uncommon to see this.

My guess is the scandals around the Vatican and the pope's butler... Though there could be a lot of reasons.

I don't believe it's linked to health issues...(iirc, John Paul II died while still being the pope...).

Seeing how this person is influent, I'd hope we could see someone more like JP II and less like Ratzinger.
(I'm not catholic, but still I can see how this has an impact on the world, and I hope the new pope end up being the nicest possible...)
LiquipediaWanderer
spelhus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 11:37:06
February 11 2013 11:34 GMT
#18
Nice finally the prophecy will be fulfilled! I'm so excited ^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
Sephyr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia665 Posts
February 11 2013 11:40 GMT
#19
Wait why doesn't he just continue until he dies like every other Pope?
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
February 11 2013 11:51 GMT
#20
On February 11 2013 20:40 Sephyr wrote:
Wait why doesn't he just continue until he dies like every other Pope?


Because he grew a conscience
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
1 2 3 4 5 24 25 26 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Playoffs Day 4
Clem vs SHINLIVE!
MaxPax vs TBD
WardiTV1725
IntoTheiNu 812
TKL 604
Ryung 506
IndyStarCraft 330
Rex185
3DClanTV 131
EnkiAlexander 44
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 604
Ryung 506
IndyStarCraft 330
Rex 185
Railgan 127
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42373
Calm 4277
Horang2 1777
EffOrt 1303
Mini 851
Light 460
firebathero 412
actioN 332
ggaemo 314
ZerO 210
[ Show more ]
Last 80
Hyun 70
Sharp 67
Sea.KH 61
Shinee 43
Sexy 39
NotJumperer 34
Killer 31
HiyA 27
Shine 21
Rock 18
IntoTheRainbow 17
Sacsri 16
Terrorterran 14
Hm[arnc] 14
SilentControl 10
GoRush 10
Dota 2
Gorgc7265
qojqva731
BananaSlamJamma120
Counter-Strike
byalli1676
allub341
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King98
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor908
Liquid`Hasu340
Other Games
singsing2060
B2W.Neo1283
Beastyqt642
XBOCT237
XaKoH 147
RotterdaM117
QueenE116
KnowMe33
ZerO(Twitch)25
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream23992
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1382
League of Legends
• Nemesis2945
• Jankos2095
Other Games
• WagamamaTV153
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
7m
Solar vs GgMaChine
Bunny vs Cham
ByuN vs MaxPax
BSL
4h 7m
CranKy Ducklings
9h 7m
Replay Cast
18h 7m
Wardi Open
19h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 7m
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Leta vs YSC
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.