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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
If North Korea even attempts at such a thing China would possibly join in a counter attack. | ||
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Tenshix
United States169 Posts
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On March 09 2013 07:27 Tenshix wrote: I wonder if shit's actually going to go down after this recent news of "North Korea saying to prepare for war." I suppose NK just wants the other countries who have sanctions against it to back down, but they are seriously taking it quite far. Stay safe South Koreans and foreigners living in Korea. That's what worries me. Kim Jong Un is young and probably feels the need to establish himself as a serious leader. He could use NK's history of "doing nothing but yelling a lot" as the boy who cried wolf example. That and he's the son of the trinity, so I expect him to be the final act in this thing. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
New round of sanctions + fleet exercises always lead to some kind of provocation by NK, combine that with new leadership and you have a country that wants to show that they're not completely impotent. They'll sink another ship or maybe shell a village or something, but in the end it will only drive them into further isolation, especially now that their chinese overlords are pretty much done with them. Actual war is suicide for the ruling class in NK and they know it. All they want is to project the image of strength to their own population, because that's what their entire system is built on. Like the iranians, invoking the spectre of conflict helps them to maintain their power but any real conflict makes it collapse. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:41 quaZa wrote: Atleast its not Germany now starting WW3. They didn't start WW1, so it doesn't really matter. On March 09 2013 08:18 KwarK wrote: Arguable. The immediate implementation of the Schlieffen Plan happened before any real attempt to dissolve the tension diplomatically. The system of two unstable opposing power blocks was not the fault of Germany but the German military were the first to strike as a war loomed on the horizon. I do agree that no real attempts were made. That's because Germany, Russia and France wanted war(not everyone of course, but certain people with the necessary power(Russia would have liked to wait a bit longer though)). If it hadn't happen that time, then definitely later. Anyway, since war was inevitable, of course Germany would go with the only plan they had against France/Russia. And once they were on course, there was no stopping. What do you mean with "the first to strike"? War was already happening when they attacked. Russia got ready earlier than Germany. So...dunno. On March 09 2013 09:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Someone start a new thread because it's about to go full blown Fall of Eagles in here. Nah, better avoid that  | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
nk launches missile towards usa, missile malfunction and ends up in japan, nuke blows. UN retaliate against NK NK absorbed into SK Japan still remains to be the only nation to receive nuclear attack. hmmmmm... | ||
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Schlootle
United States54 Posts
On March 09 2013 07:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Yeah China and the US are dependent on each other, one could argue Sino-Russian relations have a better chance of frosting over than relations with America. If North Korea even attempts at such a thing China would possibly join in a counter attack. I have a pretty strong feeling China would join in on the counter attack as well so that the US and SK won't have all of the say in the peace treaty and possibly do things with NK that would not be in China's best interest if anything does happen. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
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KwarK
United States43970 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:00 Lucumo wrote: They didn't start WW1, so it doesn't really matter. Arguable. The immediate implementation of the Schlieffen Plan happened before any real attempt to dissolve the tension diplomatically. The system of two unstable opposing power blocks was not the fault of Germany but the German military were the first to strike as a war loomed on the horizon. | ||
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TricksAre4Figs
United States125 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:00 Lucumo wrote: They didn't start WW1, so it doesn't really matter. At least Serbia isn't starting WWIII  | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:18 KwarK wrote: Arguable. The immediate implementation of the Schlieffen Plan happened before any real attempt to dissolve the tension diplomatically. The system of two unstable opposing power blocks was not the fault of Germany but the German military were the first to strike as a war loomed on the horizon. Someone start a new thread because it's about to go full blown Fall of Eagles in here. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:30 TricksAre4Figs wrote: political commentator speculate that north korea does not act without the consent of beijing. something to think about. "north korea is a junkyard dog which belongs to china" Well, given how NK would be crippled without China's support (around 70% of NK's trade is with China and all their oil comes from Chinese pipelines), I could see why some people would think that way. However, China doesn't really stand to gain much from NK acting out like this. Sure, it creates a distraction for the US and other powers, which might serve China in different ways, but it also creates huge political pressure on themselves to denounce such actions and punish NK. | ||
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Schlootle
United States54 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:30 TricksAre4Figs wrote: political commentator speculate that north korea does not act without the consent of beijing. something to think about. "north korea is a junkyard dog which belongs to china" But what good will it do China to have North Korea act the way it has been in recent times? Yeah North Korea and China are close but I will highly doubt China has any part on encouraging North Korea into this behavior. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Gnaix
United States438 Posts
On March 09 2013 09:56 oneofthem wrote: it's really because of china that this situation has persisted for so long. caring about 'stability' more than millions of lives. standard. Every country is like that. Look at the US funding dictatorships in the middle east so they can have easy cheap access to oil. Do they care about the millions of lives that are suffering because of it? I highly doubt it. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On March 09 2013 09:31 Telcontar wrote: Well, given how NK would be crippled without China's support (around 70% of NK's trade is with China and all their oil comes from Chinese pipelines), I could see why some people would think that way. However, China doesn't really stand to gain much from NK acting out like this. Sure, it creates a distraction for the US and other powers, which might serve China in different ways, but it also creates huge political pressure on themselves to denounce such actions and punish NK. A more accurate term would be china's mad dog, as this dog also bites the hand of its master. | ||
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