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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it.
A gun control topic can be found here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472

Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
January 18 2013 05:57 GMT
#941
Well, my cousins kid is dead so I'm pretty confident that it isn't a hoax.

Truthers make me sick.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 18 2013 05:57 GMT
#942
What the fuck? Reading the last page of this thread is shocking and disappointing...why would people actually think this? (rhetorical question, don't answer it )
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
January 18 2013 05:57 GMT
#943
There are dozens of websites, blog posts and YouTube videos extolling the Emilie Parker hoax theory. If you Google her name, the very first result is a post mocking her father for crying at a press conference after the shooting. One popular video, which already has 134,000 views, was made by the producers of a popular 9/11 Truther film. “Just as the movie ‘Operation Terror’ shows the 9/11 attacks were a made-for-TV event, so too were the mass shootings … There can be no doubt that Sandy Hook was a staged event,” the narrator intones. He goes on to say that the adults who participated in the media coverage of the shootings “should be prosecuted as accessories after the fact in a mass murder” — i.e., the parents whose children were murdered in the massacre should be thrown in prison.

The crux of the theory is a photograph of Parker’s sister sitting on President Obama’s lap when he visited with the victims’ families. The girl is wearing the same dress Emilie wore in a pre-shooting photograph of the family shared with media, so she must be Emilie, alive and well. “BAM! I cannot believe how idiot these people are [sic]… That’s her,” one YouTuber exclaims as he watches the two images superimposed on each other. (Apparently missed by these crack investigators is the possibility that the sister wore Emilie’s dress and that they look alike because they are sisters, after all.)

The supporting details to the hoax theory explanation are reminiscent of the arcana of any well-developed conspiracy theory. What about the car? What about the rifle? Why does someone off camera allegedly tell Parker’s father to “read the Card” (as in a cue card) before he goes on CNN? Why is he laughing? Who is the guy running into the woods? Why is there police audio referring to multiple shooters? Why does one boy who survived the shooting tell Dr. Oz it was like “a drill”? Why was the principal quoted by a local paper after she died? Why do some of the parents look like some of the victims of the Aurora shooting — are they “all actors”? All of these questions have simple explanations, but in each case, the theorists have sided more with less likely, but more nefarious possibilities.


Meet the Sandy Hook Truthers
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
January 18 2013 06:06 GMT
#944
Guys I totally respect that you are open minded enough to listen to what this video is showing, but at least conduct some research afterwards! The first place you should go is here. How's that for "absolute proof"? Also, Occam's razor--how many people (in the media, in newtown, etc. etc.) would have to be complicit in this gigantic cover up for this to be true? how badly would the government have had to fuck up in order to for this to get out? I mean come on! This is disgusting.
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
January 18 2013 06:10 GMT
#945
On January 18 2013 14:32 LosingID8 wrote:
the video is indeed quite interesting. i'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories but some of that footage is pretty unbelievable.


So is all the conspiracy stuff. Until you google "debunk".

CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
January 18 2013 06:17 GMT
#946
Watch out the white knights have come.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 18 2013 06:38 GMT
#947
A white knight is defined as a male that treats woman as goddesses and does nothing but shower then in compliments on how wonderful and beautiful and special they are. Maybe be used as a noun or a verb.

A person (usually a male) who sees the typical maiden in distress, and believes that he can help her. A male version of the "mother figure" that some girls become.

A gaming term used to describe a male gamer who, in a desperate attempt to get himself laid, will attempt to woo or impress any female gamer he comes across online by being overly defensive of her and giving her special attention, such as playing as a healing class and only healing her.

Pretty sure white knighting is, by definition, used with regard to coming to the aid of a girl. Not sure as to what white knighting is going on here. Maybe, if you really really really want to stretch it, it involves coming to the aid of/defending an ideology, but not sure as to what large ideology is being defended here by evidence posted in order to debunk the hoax hypothesis.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
January 18 2013 06:44 GMT
#948
On January 18 2013 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Watch out the white knights have come.

Dude, you have your awful memes mixed up, which, rather ironically, is exactly the sort of thing one should expect from a conspiracy theorist whose information comes from unmediated internet material.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
January 18 2013 06:53 GMT
#949
On January 18 2013 15:44 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Watch out the white knights have come.

Dude, you have your awful memes mixed up, which, rather ironically, is exactly the sort of thing one should expect from a conspiracy theorist whose information comes from unmediated internet material.


1) I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think Sandy Hook was highly likely to have happened, but that guy's manner before he starts talking about his dead child was weird. That is interesting from any perspective.

2) You don't appear to understand what irony is.

3) FYI to you and other guy:


white knight
noun
1.
a hero who comes to the rescue.
2.
a beleaguered champion who fights heroically for a cause, as in politics.
3.
Informal. a company that comes to the rescue of another, as to prevent a takeover.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 18 2013 07:04 GMT
#950
After a hard day of self-righteousness and sanctimonious power struggles against the beleaguering masses, your mellifluous diction and charismatic disposition render the miserably thankless tribulations of a true champion all worth it. Our heartfelt gratitude to you, noble islander citizen.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
January 18 2013 07:06 GMT
#951
On January 18 2013 16:04 Aerisky wrote:
After a hard day of self-righteousness and sanctimonious power struggles against the beleaguering masses, your mellifluous diction and charismatic disposition render the miserably thankless tribulations of a true champion all worth it. Our heartfelt gratitude to you, noble islander citizen.


Nice dodge.

User was banned for this post.
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dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
January 18 2013 07:17 GMT
#952
What a sad, sad world we live in.
Sup.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 18 2013 07:39 GMT
#953
On January 18 2013 14:32 LosingID8 wrote:
the video is indeed quite interesting. i'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories but some of that footage is pretty unbelievable.
So is any video edited to make a point rather then to convey context and facts, it doesn't all need to be jump cuts if you line things up right and out of context putting your own narrative over it suddenly A becomes B.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
January 18 2013 07:47 GMT
#954
On January 18 2013 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Watch out the white knights have come.

Poor taste on your part
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 08:47:51
January 18 2013 08:45 GMT
#955
On January 18 2013 15:53 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 15:44 farvacola wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Watch out the white knights have come.

Dude, you have your awful memes mixed up, which, rather ironically, is exactly the sort of thing one should expect from a conspiracy theorist whose information comes from unmediated internet material.


1) I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think Sandy Hook was highly likely to have happened, but that guy's manner before he starts talking about his dead child was weird.

An impossibly ignorant, arrogant, stupid, cruel, moronic judgment, at least impossible without some stupid ulterior motive which you've backed away from. DIAF.
Big water
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 10:37:44
January 18 2013 10:27 GMT
#956
On January 18 2013 17:45 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 15:53 CaptainCharisma wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:44 farvacola wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:17 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Watch out the white knights have come.

Dude, you have your awful memes mixed up, which, rather ironically, is exactly the sort of thing one should expect from a conspiracy theorist whose information comes from unmediated internet material.


1) I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think Sandy Hook was highly likely to have happened, but that guy's manner before he starts talking about his dead child was weird.

An impossibly ignorant, arrogant, stupid, cruel, moronic judgment, at least impossible without some stupid ulterior motive which you've backed away from. DIAF.


So I take it you think Sandy Hook was fake? Because if you read what I said I clearly state I think Sandy Hook happened and am not a conspiracy theorist.

Or maybe you're talking about me calling him weird for smiling and laughing before giving a speech about his child who died the day before. Perfectly normal, I guess.
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MooseyFate
Profile Joined February 2011
United States237 Posts
January 18 2013 17:06 GMT
#957
I don't think anyone with half a brain thinks that the shooting didn't happen. But the massive amount of incorrect information circulating around this case is what has caused the a lot of rational folks to doubt the "official" story of the events and how everything went down.
If you send out a bunch of false facts, whether on purpose or just because of terrible journalism ( a very serious issue in the US right now), and then hide/classify a lot of relevant information that could clear up the misconceptions of the public, it's easy to see why there are so many people asking "WTF?".
The claim that the debunking video makes about people wanting to believe their government is the devil over some random crazy going on a random rampage is pretty ignorant. I think it's a lot more comforting to know that crazy people exist and may sometimes do crazy shit around you than to think "oh yea, our government will kill people, even its own citizens, and lie to push their agenda". Sure the crazies would jump on the bandwagon regardless of the facts, but a lot of non-conspiracy types are asking "why?" and the cops/media aren't doing a very good job of answering without seeming shady as hell.
Here's hoping that once the gag-order and near blackout of information is lifted, some light will be shed and we can all go back to worrying about something else.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
January 22 2013 03:34 GMT
#958
All,
I apologize for prematurely posting some information here recently. It has come to my attention that there are some fundamental flaws in some of what's being spread around the internet currently. You can PM me if you think otherwise.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 09:29:10
January 22 2013 03:42 GMT
#959
Adam Curry is my cousin and I talked to him several times. That guy is a douche bag, both as a friend and a family member. Take what he says with a grain of salt. I always avoided talking about politics with him because it will always dissolve into conspiracy theories and how we are sheeple.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 03:46:10
January 22 2013 03:45 GMT
#960
what the fuck is wrong with some people. I know there are guys out there that get an instant hard on whenever they hear the word conspiracy, but have some fucking respect. Your ideas are absurd, but most people put up with your shit because the evidence you put forward is so weak it doesn't merit being seriously discussed. But I mean, come on, this is just disgusting.
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