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On March 31 2006 02:19 Klogon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2006 01:47 PlayJunior wrote:
Guys some sort of offtop but I am just very very curious.
Could you classify known US collages in their authority in the respective branches of science?
E.G. I know that for CS the most known universities are Standford/MIT/.., math is Princeton, maybe Berkeley, Harward is known for humanitarian things.
Could someone well enough informed tell which collages and what for are famous ?
Thanks. Add Carnegie Mellon to CS. Go to some ranking publication such as US NEWS for some basic rankings in certain fields... there are really too many to really list. I guess it's easier to ask "what are the best colleges for _________"? And that was a really good post, WhatisProtoss -- I'll refer some clueless juniors and sophomores to that as it is too late for me ;D
Thanks, never knew that Carnegie Mellon is that great.
I am going to apply to a collage in US or preferably in Europe for 1semester/year collaborative work as I work on PHD in CS. I'd be happy if I manage to get to ETH Zurich, they have awesome research groups, but a good collage in US would be nice too.
GL everyone!
Btw one more question: guys you are applying for 2010? wtf? Or did I miss anything?
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MURICA15980 Posts
We are the college graduating class of 2010. So 2006 (current year) + 4 years = graduation year (aka 2010)
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o_o thanks 
So guys Harward has only humanitarian/social/business facuties? I was surfing their site and didn't find anything math-related(well there was architecture but it is not a precise science ).
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Harvard has math people...but they don't dwell on that.
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WhatIsProtoss's post is excellent advice for admissions.
It's true, at least at Brown, that many of the essay readers are young; I don't know any undergrads working admissions at Brown but I do know three people who are between 25 and 35. One of them told me the other day that an interesting essay or a recommendation which is really strong (some phrases they remember are "This student is the brightest I have had in 20 years..." etc.) were important in distinguishing applicants.
PlayJunior: No matter what your field, Harvard will give you a good background. For some fields, it's the top school in the country. For others, particularily sciences/math, if you are sure what field you want to be in by the time you are finishing HS, there are better places to go (Cal Tech, MIT, Berkeley/Stanford for some fields, etc). Most people aren't sure what they will major in at 17-18, but if you do, there are a lot of lesser known schools that are very strong in certain areas (Duke, Johns Hopkins come to mind, for example).
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Carnegie Mellon's CS is top undergraduate in the country if i recall correctly.
BioMed Engineering at Case Western is top 5 and not that hard of a school to get into even for that field.
Cornell Engineering is top 10 maybe top 5.
Cornell School of Hotel Administration is top 1 in the WORLD, and its really joke too but you need that kind of personality.
UPenn is known for their business school
I say UChicago is a good place to go for liberal arts, and their application/essays are weird as hell.
PlayJunior, yeah figure out what you want to do (or at least a general idea) and have a backup, one of my friends here thought he would be doing bioengineering and then switched over to philo so you never know till you start working on the subject.
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Braavos36401 Posts
exalted we are all waiting, where did you get in
and will your secretary get a bonus for sending out all those "sorry university, i will not be attending you" letters?
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On March 31 2006 01:50 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2006 01:31 WhatisProtoss wrote:On March 31 2006 00:34 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On March 30 2006 16:54 dronebabo wrote:
yes, studying worked for me too wait you took sats. Reading from posts here im freaking scared of college now. Im fifteen and im mediocre in english and suck at korean and i live in korea. How the heck am i suppose go to collge in america T.T. Rofl at Klogans thingy: *Large international website moderator ?www.teamliquid.net (site is growing and currently has 8000~ unique hits per day) Shameless Self Promotion ^_^. Anyone want to give any help -_-;;. All you guys like got like mad good grades and good test scores and still got rejected. I wish i was 12 still -_-;;. Need to hit the books now. Hav ea long way to go. Oh... dude, don't worry so much -_-;; SATs is not bad, you can do the math part easy. Verbal just takes some practice and memorization. Buy the big SAT practice books. I think the best for SAT I is CollegeBoard's "10 Real SATs". Doing those will help you a lot for SATs. If you need help on SAT IIs, buy CollegeBoard's SAT II's books. Just work hard. One step at a time... Other good companies: Kaplan, Princeton Review. I think Princeton Review makes it harder than it really is, so if you can get a decent score with Princeton Review books, then you're all set. When I took the SATs, I got a combined score of 1140. I was scared shitless, and one summer of studying brought me up almost exactly 300 points. Just old fashioned, korean style mindless memorization. 야~! 아자아자아자~~~ Haha old fashioned korean style. 아자아자 파이팅!!! 고마워형 사랑해요 <3.
허허.... 뭐야 이거.... >_>
너무 생각하지 말고, 열심히 공부하고 있어요.
If you need help, I can try to help. -_-;;
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On March 31 2006 06:31 oneofthem wrote:
Harvard has math people...but they don't dwell on that.
Harvard, CalTech, MIT, and UCBerkeley are all on par for math. Harvard is actually a good overall school. Maybe not as strong in engineering though.
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Actually, Harvard's engineering could be considered their weak point...
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Ummm... weak point yes, but that's just because everything else they have is so good.
Engineering
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. UC Berkeley
4. Georgia IT
8. CalTech
9. Carnegie Mellon
12. Cornell
17. Princeton
20. Harvard Univ.
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Yeah, their engineering school is extremely good.
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MURICA15980 Posts
Rejected from Stanford.
Only one left is Princeton in the mail.
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United States5262 Posts
On March 30 2006 20:44 randomKo_Orean wrote:
OMFG i'm pissed
I live in California
I had 800flat math SAT I, 720/710 reading/writing (SAT II: 790 Korean, 740 Math IIC), 4.3 cum GPA, 2 varsity sports, first person in family to go to college in USA, heavy rotc involvement (going to national competetion twice to florida), bunch of extra curricular activities, 200+ hour community service hours, and I'm an immigrant.....
and fucking berkeley rejected me
i hate you CAL/UCLA, fuck you bastards
4 words for you:
You see ess dee
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fuckk
rejected from cornell
waitlisted from hopkins
(i was previously rejected from MIT + harvey mudd, and i haven't gotten a letter from carnegie but i'm fairly sure i'm getting rejected because i messed up my application, long story)
looks like i'll be going to one of my safeties
case western or RPI, still waiting on emory
i hate college
edit: i had 800 math, 790 verbal, 700+ on my SAT IIs (i didn't study for any SATs, but i guess i should've)
~8 AP classes (4s and 5s on the exams), various extra curriculars (but no big pull  ), ~3.8 GPA, some college courses (including multivariable + differential equations)
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thedeadhaji
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On April 01 2006 11:26 jkillashark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2006 20:44 randomKo_Orean wrote:
OMFG i'm pissed
I live in California
I had 800flat math SAT I, 720/710 reading/writing (SAT II: 790 Korean, 740 Math IIC), 4.3 cum GPA, 2 varsity sports, first person in family to go to college in USA, heavy rotc involvement (going to national competetion twice to florida), bunch of extra curricular activities, 200+ hour community service hours, and I'm an immigrant.....
and fucking berkeley rejected me
i hate you CAL/UCLA, fuck you bastards 4 words for you: You see ess dee
well, the UC system is heavy on california residents, and are REQUIRED to take something like the top 3% students from each highschool class. Out of state students have a REALLY hard time getting into UC schools, so it's not your fault.
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thedeadhaji
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On April 01 2006 11:28 Locked wrote:fuckk rejected from cornell waitlisted from hopkins (i was previously rejected from MIT + harvey mudd, and i haven't gotten a letter from carnegie but i'm fairly sure i'm getting rejected because i messed up my application, long story) looks like i'll be going to one of my safeties case western or RPI, still waiting on emory i hate college edit: i had 800 math, 790 verbal, 700+ on my SAT IIs (i didn't study for any SATs, but i guess i should've) ~8 AP classes (4s and 5s on the exams), various extra curriculars (but no big pull ), ~3.8 GPA, some college courses (including multivariable + differential equations)
I'd say those are excellent numbers, but all these places you mentioned get thousands of applications with similar numbers. In the end, it comes down to "how are you different from everyone else?"
I dont even remember wtf I wrote for my college essays and extracurricular stuff, but I remember trying to make myself distinct from everyone else.
edit: just read whatisprotoss' advice, and I must say it was absolutely EXCELLENT advice.
I think i had an edge of a lot of people because I attended a small private school with only 40 kids in my class, knew all my teachers very closely, and they all knew me on a personal level. My recommendations were from 1) my spanish teacher with whom I had classes for 4 straight years up to AP spanish, and she knew what kind of student I was. 2) my physics teacher, who was also my varsity soccer coach.
It's best if you can create a very close relationship with your teachers who understand how hard you work, you bright you are, etcetc, and have them write you your rec.
edit2: >ilikestarcraft - If you have any questions I'll be happy to help out as well. ALthough I'm not as familiar with korean HS stuff as whatisprotoss, I have some close friends on campus who are from korea, so it shouldnt be too hard to make the connections.
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On April 01 2006 11:38 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2006 11:28 Locked wrote:fuckk rejected from cornell waitlisted from hopkins (i was previously rejected from MIT + harvey mudd, and i haven't gotten a letter from carnegie but i'm fairly sure i'm getting rejected because i messed up my application, long story) looks like i'll be going to one of my safeties case western or RPI, still waiting on emory i hate college edit: i had 800 math, 790 verbal, 700+ on my SAT IIs (i didn't study for any SATs, but i guess i should've) ~8 AP classes (4s and 5s on the exams), various extra curriculars (but no big pull ), ~3.8 GPA, some college courses (including multivariable + differential equations) I'd say those are excellent numbers, but all these places you mentioned get thousands of applications with similar numbers. In the end, it comes down to "how are you different from everyone else?" I dont even remember wtf I wrote for my college essays and extracurricular stuff, but I remember trying to make myself distinct from everyone else.
i guess one of my few "pulls" was that i help out at my church (4 hours a week?) even though personally i don't really believe in christainity, i got my recommendations from one of the sisters there, a teacher of one of my college courses, and a teacher that liked me from high school
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
On April 01 2006 11:28 Locked wrote:fuckk rejected from cornell waitlisted from hopkins (i was previously rejected from MIT + harvey mudd, and i haven't gotten a letter from carnegie but i'm fairly sure i'm getting rejected because i messed up my application, long story) looks like i'll be going to one of my safeties case western or RPI, still waiting on emory i hate college edit: i had 800 math, 790 verbal, 700+ on my SAT IIs (i didn't study for any SATs, but i guess i should've) ~8 AP classes (4s and 5s on the exams), various extra curriculars (but no big pull ), ~3.8 GPA, some college courses (including multivariable + differential equations)
Wtf? I can't see how someone with those numbers gets rejected from a school like Cornell. The average SAT for Cornell is probably around 1450  Also I guess the college courses don't really matter unless they come from a pretty respectable college. It doesn't prove anything to Harvard if you can take calc 3 at a community college --
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thedeadhaji
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In fact places like harvard, princeton, yale, stanford etcetcetc wont even accept college courses taken before college or AP's.
The most I got was placement into more advanced courses based off of AP's. They will not give you credit for the course.(except for some small exceptions)
edit: again, numbers are like the "prequalifier". It's like the bare minimum an applicant must have for them to even be considered. From there on, it becomes a quesion of "uniqueness" of the applicant.
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really i knew that, i didn't take the fucking classes (or exams) for credit
asd;klj fuck i feel like my last 4 years or so of life have been such a waste
i should have either applied myself harder or done even less work
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