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m4inbrain
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On November 15 2012 16:44 aeroblaster wrote: What the actual fuck. The 2 houses next to pile of sawdust that was a house are missing half of the structure themselves! This explosion was WAY too big to have been some kind of accident. They probably had a real bomb somehow and set it off by accident. It looks like the explosion was enormous and ball shaped, a simple natural gas accident couldn't have done something like that. The explosion wouldn't have been so concentrated and powerful, it would have been dispersed and uneven, which isn't the case in the photos. I suspect there was a real bomb but there won't really be any proof because everything incinerated... Natural gas explosions are often more damaging (especially to foundations) than surface detonations, such as those from common bombs. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:11 Recognizable wrote: Are brick houses in the USA more expensive? There are almost no brick houses o_o | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
I worked as a bricklayer in Ohio for about a year. Brick houses aren't brick as they are here in France. Usually the house is built of wood. The brick that is around it doesn't actually touch the wall it is out about two centimeters and is only decorative. They have no structural value whatsoever. Basements and foundations are laid in block as we use here, but a "brick house" is just replacing vinyl siding by a longer lasting brick face. | ||
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Pahimarus
United States17 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:11 Recognizable wrote: Are brick houses in the USA more expensive? I would assume so since I have lived in two states in the midwest and traveled extensively and I have never seen a concrete, concrete block, metal, or brick, home. Even in Ohio where I live where there is a large brick industry we only put brick facades on the houses. I believe that wood is cheap in NA due to the massive timber production of the pacific northwest region primarily. Not sure if that is the only reason, I've been told by friends who lived in eastern europe that concrete buildings have crappy properties with regard to moisture, that being said, they lived there in 91' so it could have just been crappy communist construction methods. Also I'm not sure if the heating/cooling properties are different as well. Most likely just simple economics. Anyway... | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 15 2012 15:05 Shinobi1982 wrote: Serious question: Whats up with US and wooden houses? Significantly more cheap and more able to stand up to certain natural disasters, such as earthquakes. Lots of other reasons to go with a frame build over something like fire resistive. | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
When I lived in the US enough, even a 5-year-old wood house would start to let insects and snakes in. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:15 FabledIntegral wrote: Significantly more cheap and more able to stand up to certain natural disasters, such as earthquakes. Lots of other reasons to go with a frame build over something like fire resistive. Out of curiosity, what about tornadoes? I mean, to me it looks weird (nicely put) to build a house out of matches in a region with tornado-activity, but then again, i was wrong pretty badly in another thread, so im careful on that matter. Are there benefits to a wooden house, even though my "logic" tells me otherwise? | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:23 Solarsail wrote: When I lived in the US enough, even a 5-year-old wood house would start to let insects and snakes in. Wha? Are you talking about a log cabin? | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:27 m4inbrain wrote: Out of curiosity, what about tornadoes? I mean, to me it looks weird (nicely put) to build a house out of matches in a region with tornado-activity, but then again, i was wrong pretty badly in another thread, so im careful on that matter. Are there benefits to a wooden house, even though my "logic" tells me otherwise? Indianapolis is not particularly vulnerable to tornadoes; they tend to be far more frequent and of a building material concern out west a bit, more along the lines of Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas. Edit: Well, now that I look at it, I guess Indiana has had a lot of tornadoes. Though whether or not this warrants different building standards is rather out of my reach  | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
I wonder what caused it, will be checking back on this one 31 houses needing to be demolished though, that's quite a lot. Is it really that impossible to fix a foundation when it has been damaged by something like this? | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
how fucked up would that be? They just die and didn't do anythinf | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:31 farvacola wrote: Indianapolis is not particularly vulnerable to tornadoes; they tend to be far more frequent and of a building material concern out west a bit, more along the lines of Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas. Edit: Well, now that I look at it, I guess Indiana has had a lot of tornadoes. Though whether or not this warrants different building standards is rather out of my reach Actually, i did not know how much tornadoes "fly through" (or whatever they do) Indianapolis per year. To me, Indianapolis is a race, i know nothing else about that. ^^ It's just that after a tornado it looks more or less like the pictures in the OP, so i'm kinda confused why you would build something so "flimsy" in certain regions. Is it some kind of gambling, like building a cheap home and just hope you don't get hit? Edit: but on the topic, it actually looks like a gas-explosion to me (in germany we had some of them over the last few years). I'm of course in no way an expert, it's just that.. Actually, i don't know why. Maybe i watched too much mythbusters and their gas-explosions. Edit2: well.. Is it even common in the US to have gas ovens and heaters? | ||
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
On November 15 2012 14:04 vultdylan wrote: holy shit thats insane. funny, cuz the first thing i thought of when i saw this was "oh shit, there goes another meth lab." Also, 80 homes? did it like shift the foundation of the houses and such? UP to 80 could be as much as 3 for all we know. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:27 m4inbrain wrote: Out of curiosity, what about tornadoes? I mean, to me it looks weird (nicely put) to build a house out of matches in a region with tornado-activity, but then again, i was wrong pretty badly in another thread, so im careful on that matter. Are there benefits to a wooden house, even though my "logic" tells me otherwise? Tornadoes are extremely rare except in very specific parts of the country, in which they are only slightly less rare. Even when they do occur, the path of destruction of even the largest tornado is pretty narrow and you probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning. It's quite simple really, wooden houses, reinforced with plastic and/or metal, is much cheaper than building everything out of stone or mortar, especially when you have such a large population. In seismic areas, it is also more durable in the event of an earthquake than a stone house. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:52 ZasZ. wrote: Tornadoes are extremely rare except in very specific parts of the country, in which they are only slightly less rare. Even when they do occur, the path of destruction of even the largest tornado is pretty narrow and you probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning. It's quite simple really, wooden houses, reinforced with plastic and/or metal, is much cheaper than building everything out of stone or mortar, especially when you have such a large population. In seismic areas, it is also more durable in the event of an earthquake than a stone house. Thought so, so in the end it's a bit of a gamble. Guess, that makes sense (i don't really know the behaviour or "rarity" of tornadoes, because we don't have them). What about gas ovens/heating? Is that common in these houses? Or to be more clear, could that house have had gas heating/ovens? I'm asking because i don't want to trip in the same trap i did last time (where i thought that us- and german housing are quite similar, which apparently, they are not, even though at that time we discussed appartement-buildings). | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:56 Pahimarus wrote: I would assume so since I have lived in two states in the midwest and traveled extensively and I have never seen a concrete, concrete block, metal, or brick, home. Even in Ohio where I live where there is a large brick industry we only put brick facades on the houses. I believe that wood is cheap in NA due to the massive timber production of the pacific northwest region primarily. Not sure if that is the only reason, I've been told by friends who lived in eastern europe that concrete buildings have crappy properties with regard to moisture, that being said, they lived there in 91' so it could have just been crappy communist construction methods. Also I'm not sure if the heating/cooling properties are different as well. Most likely just simple economics. Anyway... The problem with concrete buildings over here is that the newest ones are 20 years old, maybe even 22. That's almost as old as I am. A lot of them don't have outside thermal isolation, old water pipes, etc. Not to mention having hundreds of people in a building, so the common parts are being anonymously vandalised 24/7. | ||
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