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BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 16 2012 21:57 GMT
#141
My family business was involved in house renovation. I don't understand why you'd build a house out of anything other than wood... So much cheaper and much more effective at insulation. Not to mention that despite more constant repairs, they are rarely anything significant.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 16 2012 21:58 GMT
#142
On November 17 2012 06:50 MooLen wrote:
Wow i love that kind of structure in american villages. Looks so structured and clean but i´m kinda off topic. Where exactly in Indianapolis is this btw?


It's a suburb. They all look the same, lol. Most American middle-class families live in homes like those.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 22:03:01
November 16 2012 22:01 GMT
#143
On November 17 2012 06:50 MooLen wrote:
Wow i love that kind of structure in american villages. Looks so structured and clean but i´m kinda off topic. Where exactly in Indianapolis is this btw?

Easy to be clean when you start with alot of room.
http://goo.gl/maps/MoFnw
Anyways i think there based on the address in the articles.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
November 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#144
On November 17 2012 06:57 BluePanther wrote:
My family business was involved in house renovation. I don't understand why you'd build a house out of anything other than wood... So much cheaper and much more effective at insulation. Not to mention that despite more constant repairs, they are rarely anything significant.


Well, geographic, weather, fauna and flora can be huge factors on what material is more popular. For example, in Thailand the weather is so humid that mold can practically grow from overnight to a couple of days if you left things unchecked. So wood house is kinda hard to get rid of mold and other fungi. Another thing that make wood unpopular in Thailand is termite. Termite infestation is a serious problem in Thailand and there's a lot of time that the wood house is rendered not liveable because of termites. The only wood plank that can resist termite is very expensive, hence making traditional Thai house very expensive for most middle-class.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Fenris420
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden213 Posts
November 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#145
When we had explosives training in the army, we blew a lot of stuff up. The only thing that the military has that would leave charred wood like that is napalm. Gas explosion makes sense to me. What else could it be really?

An explosion like that is likely to send wood flying a mile away. I would guess that whole planks might have actually flown through buildings entirely, if the walls are nothing but wood. 80 houses seems like a lot but it isn't impossible that this many would have wood sticking through the walls and windows blown out. Not sure if they would need demolition because of that though.

Collateral damage gets crazy in big explosions.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#146
On November 17 2012 07:36 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 06:57 BluePanther wrote:
My family business was involved in house renovation. I don't understand why you'd build a house out of anything other than wood... So much cheaper and much more effective at insulation. Not to mention that despite more constant repairs, they are rarely anything significant.


Well, geographic, weather, fauna and flora can be huge factors on what material is more popular. For example, in Thailand the weather is so humid that mold can practically grow from overnight to a couple of days if you left things unchecked. So wood house is kinda hard to get rid of mold and other fungi. Another thing that make wood unpopular in Thailand is termite. Termite infestation is a serious problem in Thailand and there's a lot of time that the wood house is rendered not liveable because of termites. The only wood plank that can resist termite is very expensive, hence making traditional Thai house very expensive for most middle-class.


Fair enough. That comment was mostly directed at our European brothers. Potential water damage and infestation are two legitimate concerns. In fact, I think Southern US houses are constructed slightly different due to termites.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4338 Posts
November 16 2012 23:22 GMT
#147
Wonder if the other houses affected would be covered by insurance over this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 17 2012 01:20 GMT
#148
On November 17 2012 07:52 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 07:36 Veldril wrote:
On November 17 2012 06:57 BluePanther wrote:
My family business was involved in house renovation. I don't understand why you'd build a house out of anything other than wood... So much cheaper and much more effective at insulation. Not to mention that despite more constant repairs, they are rarely anything significant.


Well, geographic, weather, fauna and flora can be huge factors on what material is more popular. For example, in Thailand the weather is so humid that mold can practically grow from overnight to a couple of days if you left things unchecked. So wood house is kinda hard to get rid of mold and other fungi. Another thing that make wood unpopular in Thailand is termite. Termite infestation is a serious problem in Thailand and there's a lot of time that the wood house is rendered not liveable because of termites. The only wood plank that can resist termite is very expensive, hence making traditional Thai house very expensive for most middle-class.


Fair enough. That comment was mostly directed at our European brothers. Potential water damage and infestation are two legitimate concerns. In fact, I think Southern US houses are constructed slightly different due to termites.

There's really no reason to use wood in most of Europe. It could probably get cheaper but that's usually not that much of an issue as houses over here are meant to last for generations and you'll be able to sell them for the same price or for more than you paid youself. Central Europe is pretty crowded after all so getting land you can build on is actually a way bigger deal than getting the house into said soil.
I was once told my relatives in Sweden were incredibly shocked when they heard the price my parents paid for just the property even more so considering it's a pretty rural area. I bet (emphasis on bet, I don't actually know about it :p ) the US is way more like Sweden in that regard as you've got TONS of space available.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
November 20 2012 01:47 GMT
#149
Indianapolis Homeland Security Director Gary Coons made the announcement after meeting with residents affected by the Nov. 10 blast and shortly after funerals were held for the victims, who lived next door to the house where investigators believe the explosion occurred.

"We are turning this into a criminal homicide investigation," Coons said, marking the first time investigators have acknowledged a possible criminal element to the case.


Search warrants have been executed and officials are now looking for a white van that was seen in the subdivision the day of the blast, Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said. Federal authorities are offering a $10,000 reward for information in the case.

Curry said the investigation is aimed at "determining if there are individuals who may be responsible for this explosion and fire," but neither he nor Coons took questions or indicated if investigators had any suspects.

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"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
November 20 2012 01:53 GMT
#150
Seeing the picture is unnerving...the houses were literally wiped off the map
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
November 21 2012 17:14 GMT
#151
Story updated.

Police have arrested a relative of Mark Leonard who lived with his girlfriend Monserrate Shirley.

Leak and spark were possibly intentional.
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
November 21 2012 17:23 GMT
#152
Looks like the taliban really hate our freedom.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
November 21 2012 17:38 GMT
#153
On November 17 2012 07:37 Fenris420 wrote:
When we had explosives training in the army, we blew a lot of stuff up. The only thing that the military has that would leave charred wood like that is napalm. Gas explosion makes sense to me. What else could it be really?

An explosion like that is likely to send wood flying a mile away. I would guess that whole planks might have actually flown through buildings entirely, if the walls are nothing but wood. 80 houses seems like a lot but it isn't impossible that this many would have wood sticking through the walls and windows blown out. Not sure if they would need demolition because of that though.

Collateral damage gets crazy in big explosions.

I think most of that is from the resulting fire
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 21 2012 17:41 GMT
#154
damn, if that guy is convicted he will have a serious sentence. So many felonies committed...
dude bro.
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
November 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#155
i hardly see 31 houses in that photo, of which i hardly believe more than 6 were damaged. 31 possibly to get demolished, how come?
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 21 2012 17:48 GMT
#156
On November 22 2012 02:43 Silencioseu wrote:
i hardly see 31 houses in that photo, of which i hardly believe more than 6 were damaged. 31 possibly to get demolished, how come?


The explosions force probably shifted some foundations and made some buildings unsafe by damaging their frames. It's not out of the ordinary for most of the damage to not be visible, especially from an aerial picture.
dude bro.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8111 Posts
November 21 2012 17:52 GMT
#157
Holy shit that is huge.. ;(
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
November 21 2012 18:00 GMT
#158
On November 16 2012 07:19 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 07:11 Recognizable wrote:
Are brick houses in the USA more expensive?

There are almost no brick houses o_o

my house is brick, so you can stick that theory
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
November 21 2012 21:09 GMT
#159
On November 22 2012 03:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 07:19 synapse wrote:
On November 16 2012 07:11 Recognizable wrote:
Are brick houses in the USA more expensive?

There are almost no brick houses o_o

my house is brick, so you can stick that theory


Your statement doesn't contradict his statement.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 21 2012 21:21 GMT
#160
On November 22 2012 03:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 07:19 synapse wrote:
On November 16 2012 07:11 Recognizable wrote:
Are brick houses in the USA more expensive?

There are almost no brick houses o_o

my house is brick, so you can stick that theory


Almost no brick houses. And he's right, it's exceedingly rare, especially in middle-class neighborhoods like this one.
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