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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
October 22 2012 16:27 GMT
#281
60 minutes ran a story on this, it focuses on my home state of Colorado. I've smoked my fair share of dispensary bud (my best friend and ex-roommate worked at one and had a card) and I have to say, it's awesome. There are literally no downsides to this movement.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133577n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
good vibes only
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
October 22 2012 16:30 GMT
#282
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


We have laws in place to prosecute people who commit those crimes. Sure, a person likely to engage in criminal behavior may also be inclined to use recreational drugs, but that is pretty irrelevant to the debate. To say there is a causal relationship between cannabis use and committing other crimes is beyond absurd.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Bolty
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden33 Posts
October 22 2012 16:30 GMT
#283
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


....I don't know what I can and can't say on this forum, heard the moderators can be quite nazi at times. But you sir are part of the invisible cancer in our society. Perpetuating this establishment, protecting it with your guns. I despise you.

Of course criminal youths turn to drugs, it's obvious. They feel like their lives are more or less forfeit, they have no place in society and everything is pointless. Why not do drugs in that situation? Everyone would. You too my disgusting little piggie.

You never once stopped to think why you arrest people do you? Why these young criminals exist, and why they turn to drugs? Society turned their backs on them! This system of money is like a game of musical chairs, there ain't enough for everybody and you have to be sneaky, fast or have sharp elbows to win. Those people who are born with a sense of empathy and enjoy seeing other people happy? You know, good people? They don't get rich because they realize that they have to step on their fellow men to do so. And what do you do? You hunt them, instead of helping them. Why? No profit in helping them. You are the invisible hand, as described by Adam Smith. It's your job to make sure the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. And you don't even know it.

Do yourself a favor, stop being a cop. Maybe there's still time for you to do some actual good in this world.

Worth it.
E-sports must at all times be defended from morally confused people.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44185 Posts
October 22 2012 16:33 GMT
#284
Amazing OP. Showing both sides/ arguments. Love the amount of effort put into this ♥

Even if people on the "Illegalize" side condemn marijuana for the tiniest possibility of risks involved, we already have cigarettes and alcohol legal- so to keep marijuana as illegal, I think they'd have to be logically consistent and want to ban any drug that's more harmful than pot (including cigarettes and alcohol). They may very well want all of that to happen, but I'm of the opinion that adults should have the choice to put whatever they want in their own bodies as long as they:

1. Are properly educated about it beforehand (e.g. possible health risks, both short term and long term, side effects, chance of addiction, etc.)
2. Don't hurt anyone else in the process (and if they do, pay the consequences in a relatively similar way (e.g. drunk driving/ driving under the influence)

I personally have no interest in doing drugs, but I have no problem if someone else wants to do them on their own time, especially in the privacy of their own home (what they do there is none of my business, especially if it won't affect me).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 16:38:45
October 22 2012 16:35 GMT
#285
On October 22 2012 17:37 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 16:37 Nizaris wrote:
On October 22 2012 14:00 Swede wrote:
As much as I don't care about whether or not marijuana is legalised, I am curious why it's such a big deal to people. There's pretty much a perpetual discussion on legalising weed on every internet forum with a reasonably large and active population. The amount of discussion just seems totally disproportionate to the size of the issue.

If there was ever an argument for marijuana being addictive, it would be that so many of the people who smoke it care about it so much, far above a rational level of concern.

Anyway, I'm not actually arguing that all marijuana users are addicted. I just find the level of concern for something so unimportant to be silly is all.

making as much as 50% of the 20 year olds into criminals for no good reason is unimportant to you? well excuse us for caring...


It's unimportant by comparison to other things since everybody has the choice to just not smoke weed. There's only so much sympathy you can grant to somebody who does it knowing what the consequences could be and then gets caught. Especially since it is by and large a drug of leisure (and typically a massive waste of time).

I feel some sympathy for those who use it for medical reasons, but I'm also aware that advocates for medical marijuana often exaggerate its usefulness over existing treatments. For example a poster just above has claimed that marijuana is an 'efficacious' medicine for the treatment of MS, in spite of the fact that there is very little research to verify this (unless said poster would like to provide some). I'm not denying that there may be some legitimate medicinal uses for marijuana (glaucoma is one illness which it is definitely useful for, and it's also useful for regaining appetite in certain situations), but people talk about it as if it's some miracle cure, even though there's almost zero conclusive evidence that it helps with anything. There's a lot of studies that conclude that 'marijuana may be useful for so and so', but that's not even close to the same thing.

Anyway, I'm not actually anti-marijuana despite how I may come across. I just think it's further down the list of things to worry about.


There is a decent body of evidence suggesting cannabis is efficacious in relieving symptoms of neuropathic disorders like MS. Anecdotal evidence from patients is also all over the internet, likethe video i posted earlier and also Montel Williams. Unfortunately, the illegality of cannabis has been a barrier to research.


EDIT: I mentioned this earlier in the thread and I'll say it once more: modern medical science classifies THC as a potent neuroprotective antioxidant. Also, non-psychoactive CBD shows tremendous promise in the treatment of a vast array of maladies.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44185 Posts
October 22 2012 16:36 GMT
#286
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:39 GMT
#287
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#288
On October 23 2012 01:30 Immaterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


We have laws in place to prosecute people who commit those crimes. Sure, a person likely to engage in criminal behavior may also be inclined to use recreational drugs, but that is pretty irrelevant to the debate. To say there is a causal relationship between cannabis use and committing other crimes is beyond absurd.

What causality do you need to establish? These are juveniles (KIDS) who take drugs. Are you defending that?
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
October 22 2012 16:43 GMT
#289
I see it as a medicine, and it should be illegal to abuse medicine...it's kind of a personal thing; I can't stand people who abuse legit medicine, it really hurts me because I take a medicine that people often abuse: Adderall. I legitimately need Adderall because my condition is so bad that without it, I wouldn't be able to focus long enough to finish typing this paragraph. It's downright debilitating. Therefore I hate people who abuse this and take it as a "study drug" when they obviously can get by without it. People who abuse marijuana are no different...it should only be for people with utterly debilitating pain or anxiety.

Just my two cents.
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#290
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."
dude bro.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#291
On October 23 2012 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).

This correlation is not causation crap people say in the internet is absurd. What is there to think about kids, some as young as 10 years old, smoking weed and doing crime? Should we know conclude that coke does not contribute to the obesity of people who drink it everyday. How much evidence do you need to prove causation from correlation?
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 16:46:56
October 22 2012 16:46 GMT
#292
On October 23 2012 01:44 neggro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).

This correlation is not causation crap people say in the internet is absurd. What is there to think about kids, some as young as 10 years old, smoking weed and doing crime? Should we know conclude that coke does not contribute to the obesity of people who drink it everyday. How much evidence do you need to prove causation from correlation?

Gosh, do you honestly believe smoking pot makes people more likely to do crime? If not wtf are you arguing? Are you confused about what correlation does not equal causation means?
dude bro.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:48 GMT
#293
On October 23 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."

Did you at any time attend school? The thread as the title clearly suggests is about marijuana. Therefore when I said everyone here wants to legalize "it", "it" means marijuana, proven by the fact that indeed majority voted to legalize marijuana in the polls. He just wanted to mislead the discussion. You both talk to each other since you seem to have the same purpose.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
October 22 2012 16:50 GMT
#294
On October 23 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:44 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).

This correlation is not causation crap people say in the internet is absurd. What is there to think about kids, some as young as 10 years old, smoking weed and doing crime? Should we know conclude that coke does not contribute to the obesity of people who drink it everyday. How much evidence do you need to prove causation from correlation?

Gosh, do you honestly believe smoking pot makes people more likely to do crime? If not wtf are you arguing? Are you confused about what correlation does not equal causation means?


Correlation can equal causation, that is I think it's a cause to investigate but I don't think it's black or white either way. It neither always equals it or never equals it, but the potential to equal it is there. Buuuuut I think it's the other way around actually in this case. That is I don't think marijuana causes kids to commit crime, but that kids who are already committing crimes might get into marijuana "because why not".

But my main point about medicine still stands; that's my main problem and always will be. Again it's just my two cents and my theory is just a theory...oh well.
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 22 2012 16:51 GMT
#295
On October 23 2012 01:48 neggro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."

Did you at any time attend school? The thread as the title clearly suggests is about marijuana. Therefore when I said everyone here wants to legalize "it", "it" means marijuana, proven by the fact that indeed majority voted to legalize marijuana in the polls. He just wanted to mislead the discussion. You both talk to each other since you seem to have the same purpose.


You know sometimes when people try to insult me I get angry. But when it comes from someone who literally doesn't understand some of the terms he is using how can I be upset. It's really just ironic.
dude bro.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:51 GMT
#296
On October 23 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:44 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).

This correlation is not causation crap people say in the internet is absurd. What is there to think about kids, some as young as 10 years old, smoking weed and doing crime? Should we know conclude that coke does not contribute to the obesity of people who drink it everyday. How much evidence do you need to prove causation from correlation?

Gosh, do you honestly believe smoking pot makes people more likely to do crime? If not wtf are you arguing? Are you confused about what correlation does not equal causation means?

If 80% is not enough by personal experience and official record, what then? Should we test all children and make then smoke pot and see if there is any correlation bullshit to prove the point. Some of you need to be awakened to real life and stop dreaming that life is all the rainbows and unicorns you learn in your philosophy classes.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#297
On October 23 2012 01:51 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:48 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."

Did you at any time attend school? The thread as the title clearly suggests is about marijuana. Therefore when I said everyone here wants to legalize "it", "it" means marijuana, proven by the fact that indeed majority voted to legalize marijuana in the polls. He just wanted to mislead the discussion. You both talk to each other since you seem to have the same purpose.


You know sometimes when people try to insult me I get angry. But when it comes from someone who literally doesn't understand some of the terms he is using how can I be upset. It's really just ironic.

tMomiji above you just gave you a free lesson. Thank him.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
October 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#298
On October 23 2012 01:51 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 01:48 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."

Did you at any time attend school? The thread as the title clearly suggests is about marijuana. Therefore when I said everyone here wants to legalize "it", "it" means marijuana, proven by the fact that indeed majority voted to legalize marijuana in the polls. He just wanted to mislead the discussion. You both talk to each other since you seem to have the same purpose.


You know sometimes when people try to insult me I get angry. But when it comes from someone who literally doesn't understand some of the terms he is using how can I be upset. It's really just ironic.


technically i have a lot of faith in humanity, so i like to believe he's just trolling
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
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Last Edited: 2012-10-22 16:58:50
October 22 2012 16:57 GMT
#299
On October 23 2012 01:51 neggro wrote:
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On October 23 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:44 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL


Just because some criminals also smoke pot doesn't mean that the pot is the cause of the other- more dangerous- crimes. To think so is to forget that correlation does not imply causation. Drugs and violence are often found together, but that doesn't mean that "good" people are incapable of handling themselves in the presence of marijuana (which isn't nearly as dangerous as other drugs).

This correlation is not causation crap people say in the internet is absurd. What is there to think about kids, some as young as 10 years old, smoking weed and doing crime? Should we know conclude that coke does not contribute to the obesity of people who drink it everyday. How much evidence do you need to prove causation from correlation?

Gosh, do you honestly believe smoking pot makes people more likely to do crime? If not wtf are you arguing? Are you confused about what correlation does not equal causation means?

If 80% is not enough by personal experience and official record, what then? Should we test all children and make then smoke pot and see if there is any correlation bullshit to prove the point. Some of you need to be awakened to real life and stop dreaming that life is all the rainbows and unicorns you learn in your philosophy classes.


links, etc, where are these records? can you please explain why you think one would take kind of a 'downer' and go about doing crime? Or is it more an 'environment' issue, case in which legalising it would actually make sense?

Or are you just saying that 80% of kids arrested are arrested for consuming/possesion, hence 80% of kids arrested are drug-related crimes? lolo

Asking all these since we already established pot, crack etc are just words for you and you don't really seem to know what you're talking about
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 22 2012 16:57 GMT
#300
On October 23 2012 01:53 neggro wrote:
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On October 23 2012 01:51 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:48 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:39 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:22 heliusx wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Everyone wants to legalize crack cocaine? That statement is about as believable as 80% of people who do crimes test for marijuana.

I was talking about marijuana sir. This is a marijuana thread after all.


On October 23 2012 01:16 neggro wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:13 Nizaris wrote:
On October 23 2012 01:12 neggro wrote:
There is a reason marijuana is illegal in the US. Hardcore statistic: In my 2 years in the police force, 80% of all the juvenile crimes are done by people who test positive to drugs.

ILLEGAL

positive to drugs or positive to MJ ? No1 said anything about making crack legal.

marijuana I mean. These are juveniles who normally smoke a joint before doing stupid shit. What do you mean no one? Every one here wants to legalize it.


Maybe you should read what you're responding to then? He says no one said anything about making crack legal. You replied "what do you mean no one? everyone here wants to legalize it."

Did you at any time attend school? The thread as the title clearly suggests is about marijuana. Therefore when I said everyone here wants to legalize "it", "it" means marijuana, proven by the fact that indeed majority voted to legalize marijuana in the polls. He just wanted to mislead the discussion. You both talk to each other since you seem to have the same purpose.


You know sometimes when people try to insult me I get angry. But when it comes from someone who literally doesn't understand some of the terms he is using how can I be upset. It's really just ironic.

tMomiji above you just gave you a free lesson. Thank him.


Yeah, he gave a free lesson in captain obvious.
dude bro.
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