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Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member
BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.
I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.
I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents
[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]
Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.
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When you say don't support the BSA, do you mean don't support your local troops, or just don't publicly support the national organization? Keep in mind it's mainly the idiots at the national level that are making such a big deal out of this... the local troops and in many cases county-level leaders are not proponents of this policy.
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On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
[Christians of the board, do you really fucking think God gives a damn whether or not you like to stick your pecker in another man's ass? Do you consider all that savage shit in the OT divine and true?
Woah..as much as i agree, thats a bit rude.
And theres no talking to devout religious people about these things, believe me.
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I'm pretty sure we've already discussed this issue before, sounds really familiar.
Yes, it is pretty messed up to reject membership based on their sexual status.
At the same time, you calling out the christians in that manner is a bit uncalled for. I'm not a christian btw.
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First of all I don't think anyone is supporting the Boy Scouts of America.
Secondly I applaud them for maintaining their position in the midst of criticism from the community; I've never really cared for what is "politically" correct and quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 09 2012 00:45 micronesia wrote:
When you say don't support the BSA, do you mean don't support your local troops, or just don't publicly support the national organization? Keep in mind it's mainly the idiots at the national level that are making such a big deal out of this... the local troops and in many cases county-level leaders are not proponents of this policy.
This. As well, the OP could use a little less rhetoric and maybe just post throughout the thread as to not draw angery attention to yourself. It's understandable to be frustrated, but being that the ones making such ridiculous decisions are unreasonable as it is, there's really no communicating with them on a logical level in terms of religion.
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On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
and quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
You're literally the worst type of person this planet has. I would honestly like to see what kind of fucked up logic you use to defend this comment.
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On October 09 2012 00:50 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 00:45 micronesia wrote:
When you say don't support the BSA, do you mean don't support your local troops, or just don't publicly support the national organization? Keep in mind it's mainly the idiots at the national level that are making such a big deal out of this... the local troops and in many cases county-level leaders are not proponents of this policy. This. As well, the OP could use a little less rhetoric and maybe just post throughout the thread as to not draw angery attention to yourself. It's understandable to be frustrated, but being that the ones making such ridiculous decisions are unreasonable as it is, there's really no communicating with them on a logical level in terms of religion.
Doesn't that mean you're stuck with rhetoric and emotional appeals?
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On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
Not only are you an idiot, but you're also a douchebag. This kind of trash shouldn't be allowed on TL.
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On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
First of all I don't think anyone is supporting the Boy Scouts of America.
Secondly I applaud them for maintaining their position in the midst of criticism from the community; I've never really cared for what is "politically" correct and quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
Yeah, and heterosexual men shouldn't be able to do anything with little girls either... Are you joking man? Prancing? Really?
This whole thing is stupid, they're just being homophobes. They can do what they want, but that doesn't mean they should hate.
And the OP's language is a little vulgar.... Doesn't really help make your point imo, kind of hurts it actually.
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On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
First of all I don't think anyone is supporting the Boy Scouts of America.
Secondly I applaud them for maintaining their position in the midst of criticism from the community; I've never really cared for what is "politically" correct and quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
The BSA doesn't have 8-10 year old boys in it... it starts at like 6-7th grade.
Your comment isn't related to a gay scout being able to advance in the organization... you are talking about the leadership which is two different things.
Sticking with leadership though, why is a gay male more of a threat to the scouts than a heterosexual female? Are gays more likely to be rapists than heterosexual females (which often help lead in the BSA) or male leaders in the girl scouts?
Why do you call it 'prancing around' when it's a gay man? If it was a heterosexual man dedicated his free time to help run a troop, would it be 'prancing around' then?
There are regulations in place to prevent sexual misconduct in the BSA. I hear about gays being punished/ejected by the BSA from time to time, but I don't hear about the ones who kept their sexuality (and therefore apparent rapists' personality, as you imply) a secret getting caught only after going on a raping binge.
If you want to support the BSA in their legal right to discriminate, that is your right as well. But if you are going to try to justify your opinion on this forum, be prepared for us to call you out on your idiocy (I doubt I'm the only person who has commented as I type this)
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can't believe people still want to be scouts lol, can't say i understand as to why having homosexual scouts is such a big issue
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On October 09 2012 00:52 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 00:50 Mortal wrote:On October 09 2012 00:45 micronesia wrote:
When you say don't support the BSA, do you mean don't support your local troops, or just don't publicly support the national organization? Keep in mind it's mainly the idiots at the national level that are making such a big deal out of this... the local troops and in many cases county-level leaders are not proponents of this policy. This. As well, the OP could use a little less rhetoric and maybe just post throughout the thread as to not draw angery attention to yourself. It's understandable to be frustrated, but being that the ones making such ridiculous decisions are unreasonable as it is, there's really no communicating with them on a logical level in terms of religion. Doesn't that mean you're stuck with rhetoric and emotional appeals?
You're stuck with less than that. They're beyond rhetoric and emotional appeals because it's like you're speaking a different language to them. It would be like trying to communicate understanding and peace to the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church). It's just completely outside their understanding.
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On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys.
Wow. I didn't think people would be this dedicated to displaying their ignorance on a forum like TL. Pretty interesting actually!
You do realise that pedophilia and homosexuality has nothing whatsoever to do with each other, right?
Does this also mean that the heterosexual man/woman can't take care of kids of the opposite sex?
As for the topic, it really blows my mind that there are some parts of the western world where this ridiculous attitude to your fellow man still exists. Even more so when it comes to a group of such official status.
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On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future. Maybe also add "For the Living Christ" as an addendum.
Christians of the board, do you really fucking think God gives a damn whether or not you like to stick your pecker in another man's ass? Do you consider all that savage shit in the OT divine and true?
The first two lines of the OP, I was fine with, then there's this big chunk of flame bait.
I'm not Christian, but posting this article seems like an excuse to go on a mudslinging trip...
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I sent the OP a pm asking him to tone it back (almost immediately after he posted it), but if he doesn't react soon I'm going to close the thread (if another staff member doesn't beat me to it). It's not really a new discussion, and OP's should be expected to keep an eye on their thread, at least for a few minutes after posting it!
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i suppose the bsa abuse / documents at present would be a better topic than this.. this thread's not lasting another page..
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28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”
Loving your neighbor by telling them homosexuality is wrong is like loving your neighbor by telling them they're ugly.
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Regardless of their ideals if you're going to run an organization like a private industry it shouldn't receive public funding.
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On October 09 2012 00:59 Cereb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 00:47 neversummer wrote:
quite frankly I don't think gay men should be prancing around with large groups of 8-10 year old boys. Wow. I didn't think people would be this dedicated to displaying their ignorance on a forum like TL. Pretty interesting actually! You do realise that pedophilia and homosexuality has nothing whatsoever to do with each other, right? Does this also mean that the heterosexual man/woman can't take care of kids of the opposite sex? As for the topic, it really blows my mind that there are some parts of the western world where this ridiculous attitude to your fellow man still exists. Even more so when it comes to a group of such official status.
Agreed, it's the worst part of democracy too. The thought that people like this vote makes me quite pessimistic for the human race.
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