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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
August 10 2012 21:33 GMT
#141
On August 11 2012 05:20 Keitzer wrote:
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This picture comes to mind...

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DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 10 2012 21:37 GMT
#142
Why should life have a meaning? Some questions just aren't worth of asking. If you're really looking for an answer, I'd personally say the meaning of life is to pass on your genes to the next generation. Our entire life is governed by them, what we eat, how we eat, how we interact with those around us...It's not that we are mindless robots that obey them, but it's just that our basic "programming" consists of these codes that determine how we act.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 10 2012 22:43 GMT
#143
Life has no meaning. Meaning is something the human brain produces. The universe knows no such thing. Life just "is".
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Xitac
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany25 Posts
August 10 2012 22:55 GMT
#144
meaning of life ? playing starcraft what else!
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 23:04:10
August 10 2012 23:03 GMT
#145
Meant to do one thing? I think the concept that we're born for something is a retrospective look at what we have done, plus the optimistic bias = the done things were the best.

So it seems reasonable to assume that the idea that we are born for something is just ridiculous because it is based on old people looking back at their lives.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
August 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#146
Sometimes it's good to have no clue what the future has in store. With the right mindset, the endless possibilities could be a blessing.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
August 10 2012 23:41 GMT
#147
The meaning of life is to live, so do just that.

I am in the same situation as OP, but I do not worry about when I will figure it out I just know that I will, and sometimes just knowing that you will is really all that matters. Let your imagination run wild and chase it.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
August 10 2012 23:56 GMT
#148
I'm so lost... why are we even here?
Life's good :D
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 11 2012 00:52 GMT
#149
The Universe is our reason for existing. That's it. None of us chose to be born so we owe nothing to The Universe. We are merely new cogs in the machine, and in 100 years all of us will be dead-- the matter that comprises us will still be here, as it's been here since the beginning of time, but we will no longer be conscious entities. None of our actions, thoughts, or beliefs will have had the slightest impact, as they were just chemical reactions-- no different than any other chemical reaction in The Universe.

We can affix the word "meaning" to aspects of our lives, but it's only to make ourselves feel better. We refuse to believe that we aren't remarkable. Eating, sleeping, and fucking-- what every other animal does until they die, isn't enough for us, because we are all utterly selfish and want to believe we are the Gods of our story, that our path is meaningful and our actions paramount.

So when asked, "what's the meaning of life?" my answer's:

Essentially, there is no meaning. But, there's no meaning to anything. Existence is a state, not a privilege. The universe is. We are.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
NadaSound
Profile Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
August 11 2012 01:27 GMT
#150
When I was 19, I was hopelessly depressed. I remember felling an empty dark void in my stomach, life just seemed so monotonous and trivial. Over a long period of time I came to a rather extreme solution. I decided that I had to fill my life with things that I would die for and thus started my pursuit towards happiness and wounder. The meaning of life is a very personal thing and it will be different for each person who actively seeks it out. By asking these questions it will only be a matter of time before you find what you are looking for.

For me I found meaning in wonder. I constantly marvel at the beauty of the Earth and the sky. They are my passion and my inspiration. With my spare time I garden, landscape, bonsai and star gaze....and I get high and game out too of course. My job is to teach others about the wonders I have found. I work at a planetarium and I am a student perusing a bachelors in astrophysics.

I feel that my path was laid before me all I had to do was to take advantage of the opportunities that came my way. I do not have a special or privileged background. I dropped out of high school never truly completing 9th grade. So my advise to you is to keep looking and to keep asking your self what is important to you. And most importantly go where life takes you.

Carl Sagan spoke of our individual pursuits of meaning " We long to be here for a purpose even though, despite much self deception, none is evident. The significance of our lives and our fragile planet is then determined only by our own wisdom and courage, we are the custodians of life's meaning.....If we crave some cosmic purpose let us find ourselves a worthy goal."
Darknat
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
August 11 2012 04:34 GMT
#151
Being full of faith, hope and love.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
August 11 2012 04:50 GMT
#152
Has anyone ever had their mind blown when they thought about the strange possibility that all this happened. And by all this, I mean the universe and everything. I always wondered how strange of a coincidence it is that I'm here, and I wonder why there isn't nothing; Not even empty space, just plain nothing. As I think of it I enter this state of intense amazement. I actually have a mini freak out.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:10:37
August 11 2012 05:10 GMT
#153
On August 11 2012 13:50 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Has anyone ever had their mind blown when they thought about the strange possibility that all this happened. And by all this, I mean the universe and everything. I always wondered how strange of a coincidence it is that I'm here, and I wonder why there isn't nothing; Not even empty space, just plain nothing. As I think of it I enter this state of intense amazement. I actually have a mini freak out.


Isn't it crazy?

WHY IS THERE SOMETHING INSTEAD OF NOTHING?

I love it

edit: the only conclusion I can come to is that it must be logically necessary
shikata ga nai
Creegz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:19:27
August 11 2012 05:18 GMT
#154
From personal experience, 90% of people these days have NO idea what they want to do with their lives until they're near 30. I am 22 and I know what I would like to do, but it's realistically never going to occur. That I am fine with, best bet is to figure out something you REALLY enjoy, and follow through with something in that area. If you love video games, then look at everything involved in video games, and pursue something in there. Now with that being said, if you love music, and would like to make music, go with that, and if you love video games just as much, then you've got a direction. Basically look at what makes you happy. Not everyone is going to be rich, not everyone is going to be famous, what you need to do is figure out what you could do day in and day out 5 days (or more in many instances) for 30+ years. Figure that out, and you figure out a direction.

Personally, I like writing and being creative with that aspect, I used to write lyrics, and have written a few good short stories that I would use for video game concepts. I also love concept art and video games as a whole. I buy the collectors edition of anything (if I plan to buy it anyway, and sometimes wouldn't have bought, but Halo Reach had a statue that was really nice so I bought it, glad I did, it's a good game...and I didn't like 2 or 3.) JUST for artwork books or figures and such. Being either an eSports journalist or a video game storyboard creator would work for me. I personally would LOVE to be in the eSports scene, but I doubt it will happen, I would be happy to be a game writer, and just follow Starcraft.

This goes without saying, work a meaningless job, someone has to, but aspire to be more, it's a means to an end regardless of circumstances. Let the under-inspired meander around from job to job and never really acquire a career. Find something that makes you happy, and follow through. If you're insightful enough you may find a void nobody really thought of or pursued and then fill it. Look at Day[9] for example, he decided to just go "okay, i'll do a show about showing people how to be better at my passion" and he's doing quite well.
Who is this guy? ^
Groog
Profile Joined July 2010
127 Posts
August 11 2012 08:36 GMT
#155
On August 09 2012 06:41 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 06:22 Groog wrote:
On August 09 2012 04:58 IcedBacon wrote:
The meaning of life is to reproduce, that's what every living thing before us has strived to do.


Biological Imperative != Meaning of Life

As sentient beings we can chose our own meaning.


Not really. Everything is set in motion. We are all being pushed down a hill and death is at the base. Any "meaning" of life is merely a delusion, which I guess is fine if that's what people need to drag themselves to their jobs in the morning.


Of course it's a delusion, it cannot be anything else. "Meaning" is compeletely subjective, and we can attribute meaning to whatever we chose.

And some people, like me who works in astronomy, love their jobs and don't need a reason to go there every day. I mean, what else would I be doing all day every day? I would be bored out of my mind if I couldn't keep busy.

And to quote Carl Sagan - "We are a way for the universe to know itself"
starrrrlight
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark18 Posts
August 11 2012 09:16 GMT
#156
the meaning of life is to give more than you take
by doing anything, you can become anyone
Groog
Profile Joined July 2010
127 Posts
August 11 2012 10:09 GMT
#157
On August 11 2012 13:50 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Has anyone ever had their mind blown when they thought about the strange possibility that all this happened. And by all this, I mean the universe and everything. I always wondered how strange of a coincidence it is that I'm here, and I wonder why there isn't nothing; Not even empty space, just plain nothing. As I think of it I enter this state of intense amazement. I actually have a mini freak out.


Anthropological principle.

If all of this hadn't happened, then you would never have been able to think about it because you wouldn't have existed. So this is the only outcome of the universe in which you can consider all the things that could have gone 'wrong', making it the only outcome in which you can ever exist. Making the extremeley improbable existence of you into a certainty.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
August 11 2012 13:41 GMT
#158
“It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life—daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning

Logotherapy was developed by neurologist and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl. It is considered the "Third Viennese School of Psychotherapy" after Freud's psychoanalysis and Adler's individual psychology.

Logotherapy is based on an Existential Analysis focusing on the will to meaning as opposed to Adler's Nietzschean doctrine of will to power or Freud's will to pleasure. Rather than power or pleasure, logotherapy is founded upon the belief that it is the striving to find a meaning in one's life that is the primary, most powerful motivating and driving force in humans.

“Ultimately, man should not ask what the meaning of his life is, but rather must recognize that it is he who is asked. In a word, each man is questioned by life; and he can only answer to life by answering for his own life; to life he can only respond by being responsible.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“In some ways suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning, such as the meaning of a sacrifice.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“Life is never made unbearable by circumstances, but only by lack of meaning and purpose.”
― Viktor E. Frankl


“So live as if you were living already for the second time and as if you had acted the first time as wrongly as you are about to act now!”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“The one thing you can’t take away from me is the way I choose to respond to what you do to me. The last of one’s freedoms is to choose one’s attitude in any given circumstance.”
― Viktor E. Frankl


“But there was no need to be ashamed of tears, for tears bore witness that a man had the greatest of courage, the courage to suffer.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“Don't aim at success. The more you aim at it and make it a target, the more you are going to miss it. For success, like happiness, cannot be pursued; it must ensue, and it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself or as the by-product of one's surrender to a person other than oneself. Happiness must happen, and the same holds for success: you have to let it happen by not caring about it. I want you to listen to what your conscience commands you to do and go on to carry it out to the best of your knowledge. Then you will live to see that in the long-run—in the long-run, I say!—success will follow you precisely because you had forgotten to think about it”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning



“Forces beyond your control can take away everything you possess except one thing, your freedom to choose how you will respond to the situation.”
― Viktor E. Frankl


“Happiness cannot be pursued; it must ensue.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


“A human being is not one thing among others; things determine each other, but man is ultimately self-determining. What he becomes - within the limits of endowment and environment- he has made out of himself. In the concentration camps, for example, in this living laboratory and on this testing ground, we watched and witnessed some of our comrades behave like swine while others behaved like saints. Man has both potentialities within himself; which one is actualized depends on decisions but not on conditions.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning



“By declaring that man is responsible and must actualize the potential meaning of his life, I wish to stress that the true meaning of life is to be discovered in the world rather than within man or his own psyche, as though it were a closed system. I have termed this constitutive characteristic "the self-transcendence of human existence." It denotes the fact that being human always points, and is directed, to something or someone, other than oneself--be it a meaning to fulfill or another human being to encounter. The more one forgets himself--by giving himself to a cause to serve or another person to love--the more human he is and the more he actualizes himself. What is called self-actualization is not an attainable aim at all, for the simple reason that the more one would strive for it, the more he would miss it. In other words, self-actualization is possible only as a side-effect of self-transcendence.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning


and more quotes here: http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/2782.Viktor_E_Frankl

PS:

As you think, so shall you become.
― Earl Nightingale


We become what we think about.
― Earl Nightingale
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 17:05:17
August 11 2012 17:05 GMT
#159
Live has only one goal.
To reproduce.
Everything else is just for fun.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 18:27:20
August 11 2012 18:26 GMT
#160
On August 12 2012 02:05 Rassy wrote:
Live has only one goal.
To reproduce.
Everything else is just for fun.


So you are saying that your goal is the same goal as the cells and organisms that compose you ?

I defy that thought, we are meant for finding our own meaning in life, sure, reproduction is built in our core

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But as you pass your genes foward, and spawn offspring you will realize (or most people would) that securing their present and future is more important than making more kids, and so on.

There is always something else to strive for, until you are left with nothing material to acomplish other than your own sense of self-actualization, and thats where the tricky part is.

Because there are cases of people in this world, that managed to simply skip steps of the pyramid and achieve self-actualization without having all their physiological, safety, love and esteem satisfied first.

That's possible because these people have atributed meaning to their existance someway or somehow, and in my opinion that is the true meaning of life, that you are the writer of your own story, it can be anything you want.

In this specific scenario, I would define success as dying in peace, knowing you had courage to go and try to do the stuff you proposed yourself to do, and actively tried to shape yourself and the world to what you believed is the right path, meaning is whatever fuels you to take the next step, to wake up with the willpower to do whatever you are required (of yourself or others) to do day after day after day, despite it being laborsome or having no end in sight.

" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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