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"To love friends, family, people..." is the consequence of self-actualization, not the means.
You can't just go up tomorrow and say "I'l love everybody". Its an emotional feeling that can only be found through extensive search... by manipulating our emotion to feel that way.
When you stop judging others, that's when you accepted who you are. Its not logical, but emotional.
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The goal in life is to procreate
that simple.
in a hundred years from now If there are people who have my blood in them and my last name still....Then I've done my job
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so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do?
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On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do?
I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do
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On August 13 2012 04:41 AllHailTheDead wrote: The goal in life is to procreate
that simple.
in a hundred years from now If there are people who have my blood in them and my last name still....Then I've done my job
I used to think that when I was 16 aswell :p
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On August 13 2012 05:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do? I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do
But where do those come from?
Is it part of the "meaning" of life? Or is it a different thing? If it is a different thing, what sort of a thing is it?
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Quite simply, whatever meaning you wish to give it, in my opinion it does not realy matter. Whatever works for you, because in the end it's going to help you to cope with everything if you can learn to observe and sense things better, without becoming too affected by it or worrying too much.
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On August 13 2012 05:29 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 05:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do? I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do But where do those come from? Is it part of the "meaning" of life? Or is it a different thing? If it is a different thing, what sort of a thing is it?
now your just getting off topic. Your pretty much asking why people dont mass murder
its not the norm, I was taught that is wrong and I will pass that down to my kids, and to them their kids
not really sure what your trying to get at....not sure why I bother responding
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On August 13 2012 05:20 Groog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 04:41 AllHailTheDead wrote: The goal in life is to procreate
that simple.
in a hundred years from now If there are people who have my blood in them and my last name still....Then I've done my job I used to think that when I was 16 aswell :p
but you dont bother to say what you believe in now? Do you think life is meaningless then?
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On August 13 2012 06:16 AllHailTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 05:29 sam!zdat wrote:On August 13 2012 05:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do? I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do But where do those come from? Is it part of the "meaning" of life? Or is it a different thing? If it is a different thing, what sort of a thing is it? now your just getting off topic. Your pretty much asking why people dont mass murder its not the norm, I was taught that is wrong and I will pass that down to my kids, and to them their kids not really sure what your trying to get at....not sure why I bother responding No, he was just taking your "meaning of life" to its logical conclusion. I mean, I have nothing against you and you're free to believe whatever you want. But something like "the goal of life to procreate" generally signifies that you haven't really thought it through entirely.
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On August 13 2012 06:25 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 06:16 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 05:29 sam!zdat wrote:On August 13 2012 05:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do? I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do But where do those come from? Is it part of the "meaning" of life? Or is it a different thing? If it is a different thing, what sort of a thing is it? now your just getting off topic. Your pretty much asking why people dont mass murder its not the norm, I was taught that is wrong and I will pass that down to my kids, and to them their kids not really sure what your trying to get at....not sure why I bother responding No, he was just taking your "meaning of life" to its logical conclusion. I mean, I have nothing against you and you're free to believe whatever you want. But something like "the goal of life to procreate" generally signifies that you haven't really thought it through entirely. lol that statement is ridiculous. who HAS thought life all the way through? no one because then they would have No time to live it! I would say his answer is as legitimate as anyone else who came up with one, and by saying "think about it more" you are disregarding his conclusion without actually presenting an argument about it.
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On August 13 2012 06:18 AllHailTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 05:20 Groog wrote:On August 13 2012 04:41 AllHailTheDead wrote: The goal in life is to procreate
that simple.
in a hundred years from now If there are people who have my blood in them and my last name still....Then I've done my job I used to think that when I was 16 aswell :p but you dont bother to say what you believe in now? Do you think life is meaningless then?
Meaning is subjective. You give your life whatever meaning you want to give it. That's my view on life.
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I don't have an answer that i want to post here yet, but I do want to say that I think black people have (had) the best societies because they walked the LEAST before asking themselves what they were looking for. White people walked so much farther and so by the time they either Forgot what they were looking for , or asked themselves again, or claimed they found it (god, eternal youth) and that's why their societies are so fucked up.
they had to organize / distribute power more to survive for longer, and then corruption happened so they didn't want to dismantle and go back to normal. aka god told me to lead you guys etc.
so i would say that a lot of our faults in modern society come from being ridiculous... maybe this is relevant?
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On August 13 2012 06:28 xmungam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 06:25 starfries wrote:On August 13 2012 06:16 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 05:29 sam!zdat wrote:On August 13 2012 05:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:On August 13 2012 04:46 sam!zdat wrote: so you would engage in mass rape were that possible for you to do? I have morals.....maybe you dont but I do But where do those come from? Is it part of the "meaning" of life? Or is it a different thing? If it is a different thing, what sort of a thing is it? now your just getting off topic. Your pretty much asking why people dont mass murder its not the norm, I was taught that is wrong and I will pass that down to my kids, and to them their kids not really sure what your trying to get at....not sure why I bother responding No, he was just taking your "meaning of life" to its logical conclusion. I mean, I have nothing against you and you're free to believe whatever you want. But something like "the goal of life to procreate" generally signifies that you haven't really thought it through entirely. lol that statement is ridiculous. who HAS thought life all the way through? no one because then they would have No time to live it! I would say his answer is as legitimate as anyone else who came up with one, and by saying "think about it more" you are disregarding his conclusion without actually presenting an argument about it. All right, let me help you out. Consider some of these questions. If you wake up sterile tomorrow, does your life no longer have meaning? If you have children but they're sterile, does your life still have meaning? If you're gay but you raise several children, does your life not have meaning? If you don't have children but somehow singlehandedly saves the human race from extinction, does your life not have meaning?
I'm not saying that it's wrong, just that if you think it through logically, there are some weird conclusions.
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The great biologist goes on the voyage in search of the extraordinary truth that science reveals about death. In this specific scene from Richard Dawkins' video series 'Sex, Death and the Meaning of Life' the very humbling, awe inspiring and (for some) very surreal and harsh reality of death is revealed through the life of the "Arctica Icelandica" clam.
These are amongst the longest living animal on the planet. Some have been found to live for 500 years, or longer.
Why do they live so long? I'm basically rephrasing what the video says, so if you have already watched the section then you don't really have to read this post at all.
But for the lazy, I will say; Evolution has to explain why some species can live so much longer than others. In the case of this clam, there is barely any threat to its survival down at the bottom of the ocean, and nothing can really pierce through its tough outer surface.
It is BECAUSE they have a very large chance of survival that it is a good gamble to stay around for a longer period of time reproducing; whereas something like a salmon has a very poor chance of reproducing so it must throw everything it's got into one big gamble now.
'There is no point in wasting resources on a body lasting 400 years if your chance of making it through the night is pretty slim'
OF COOOOOOURSE there is more to life than just sex and reproduction. We all have our personal meanings that we make for ourselves in this precious life we are given.
But on a genetic level, at the end of our day our bodies are just carriers for genes to move from one generation to the next, and 'survive'
instead of seeing ageing as a grim process, we understand that it is a side effect of how our genes work.
Keep watching the whole documentary and any of Richard Dawkins/Sam Harris/Christopher Hitchens, etc etc. It's all good stuff and will keep you entertained on days off
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